NBA 2012-13 Offseason Thread

[McLaren]

Well, crap. Deron decided to sign with the Nets, so I guess money talks. Oh well, I'll laugh knowing the Nets have now completely pissed away any space for Howard.

 

[a6m5]

Well, crap. Deron decided to sign with the Nets, so I guess money talks. Oh well, I'll laugh knowing the Nets have now completely pissed away any space for Howard.

Nets makes me laugh, so does Howard. They so deserved each other.

 

[McLaren]

Dwight Howard is now 🤬 with my Nash news.

The Orlando Magic has made offers for Nash in the past and sources close to the situation say that they’ll attempt to acquire the 16-year veteran in the next two weeks. Dwight Howard has asked the front office to pursue Nash and sources close to Howard believe he won’t exercise his early termination option if the team is able to acquire Nash and re-sign him this summer.

No one can trade the Magic what they want for Howard, so he turns around & asks the Magic to go after Nash and then he might stay? Why the hell should they care what Howard wants anymore after the gigantic crap he has taken all over Orlando? SMH....

 

[Tzun]

Its heard that Nets offered 3 first round picks and Brook Lopez and Kris Humphries and MarsHon Brooks for Dwight Howard.

 

[a6m5]

Apparently, Dwight Howard has never heard of "quit while you are behind".

 

[McLaren]

Its heard that Nets offered 3 first round picks and Brook Lopez and Kris Humphries and MarsHon Brooks for Dwight Howard.

Nets can offer all they want. Reports are though that they can not sign 3 big contracts in addition of Wallace along with the other players' salaries.
The break down.

Monster contracts:

Dwill - $20 million
JJ - $19.7 million
Wallace - $10 million

Sub-Total - $49.7 million

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Smaller contracts:

Lopez - $4.5 million (Qualifying offer but this should end up around $10 million or so, right?)
Brooks - $1.2 million

Sub-Total - $5.7 - $11.2 million

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Free agent

Humphries - $8 million last year so should get at least that this time

Sub-Total - $8 million (guestimate)

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Total - $55.4 million (with Lopez at QO and not re-signing Humphries) (5 players under contract)
Total - $63.4 million (with Lopez at QO and re-signing Humphries) (6 players under contract)
Total - $69.2 million (with Lopez re-signed at $10 million and re-signing Humphries) (6 players under contract)

So they're anywhere from $55.4 million to $69.2 million, assuming they keep 2 very valuable players in Lopez and Humphries but they'll still need 7 more players who'll have cap holds.

And they have Mirza that I forgot about so that's another what $6 million?

Oh yeah and I heard they also signed Reggie Evans, is that so?

If there really is a $74.3 million hard cap then there's no way in hell they'd even be able to SnT for Dwight as you'd have to figure Dwight will get $20 million, which would mean damn near $70 million for their 4 highest paid players.

So now that Dwight can't be traded to Brooklyn and he can't sign there as a FA, what does that mean for him as a FA next year? Are we now a real threat to trade or sign for him? I'd guess that the Lakers with Bynum could be our biggest opponent in getting him and maybe the Rockets but I don't see them having anything nearly as good as Horford or Bynum to send to Orlando.

When they signed Mirza, that was it, done deal for Howard.

 

[Paulie]

Word has it Toronto just shot themselves in the foot with Nash by signing Landry Fields for $20 million on a 3-year contract & apparently, Raptors fans are going,

They believe this is a "favor" so the Knicks can't do a sign-and-trade with the Suns for Nash.

The way I read it was if NYK wants to keep Fields then they won't be able to get Nash, while Raptors could get both, meaning the Raptors are effectively sniping other horses from the Nash race.
Edit: Here's an article explaining it. http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1246430-toronto-raptors-bryan-colangelo-proves-he-is-a-great-gm-by-killing-nash-to-ny

Well, crap. Deron decided to sign with the Nets, so I guess money talks. Oh well, I'll laugh knowing the Nets have now completely pissed away any space for Howard.

Yeah, but the Nets now have both Williams and Johnson so they won't suck this year as much.......maybe.

Edit: Looks like Gordon will be a Hornet no more unless NOLA match the offer the Suns have given him.

 

[McLaren]

The way I read it was if NYK wants to keep Fields then they won't be able to get Nash, while Raptors could get both, meaning the Raptors are effectively sniping other horses from the Nash race.
Edit: Here's an article explaining it. http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...proves-he-is-a-great-gm-by-killing-nash-to-ny

Except the Raptors didn't do anything but suddenly overpay for a new player. I doubt NY counter-offers & says, "LOL, have fun in Canada".

 

[Spacegoat]

Edit: Looks like Gordon will be a Hornet no more unless NOLA match the offer the Suns have given him.

Looks like at this stage, that the Hornets are going to match the offer.

Gordon though has made it clear, that he doesn't really want to play for NOLA. It will be interesting to see where this goes.

 

[Omnis]

Nash to Lakers. Does this pic remind anyone else of a TF2 meme?

 

[McLaren]

It's going to be so hard to cheer for my favorite player now. Californians in Dallas are so god damn obnoxious about Dallas teams & will brown nose the Lakers til' death, meaning any chance of me cheering for Nash will be me being a "bandwagoneer".


In all honesty, still hoping Cuban manages something, but best of luck to Ms. Nash on the Lakers.

 

[a6m5]

This is great. He should make Gasol a man again(he had a sex-change operation couple years ago), and would only make rest of guys better.

In theory.

 

[JohnBM01]

Word has it that the Charlotte Bobcats are highly interested in my man (and free agent) Goran Dragic. That's what I read from a Tweet from David Aldridge looking at the latest Tweets. Charlotte needs all the doggone help they can get in getting over this past crappy season for them. I enjoyed Dragic, but I really liked Chandler Parsons for my Rockets. With all due respect, I sometimes kind of confused Parsons with Dragic sometimes.

Goran Dragic could make basically any team better. Unless the new trend is for every player to go to LAL, BOS, MIA, or any really good team; Dragic could be a very good player for the Bobcats.

 

[McLaren]

Dallas is interested in Dragic as well, but fear he may want a lot of money. Might as well pay him what he wants though; we're not getting anyone else now.
Edit*
Guess not. Suns sign Dragic this morning; 4 years at $34 million.

Dallas has resigned Kidd (no surprise after seeing what happened with Williams, Nash, Lin, & now Dragic). Going to be a tough season for us, but the theories are we will reload again for next season & hopefully go after Howard (Lakers are rejecting any talk of Bynum leaving now that Nash is here) & Chris Paul when they become free agents next summer.

 

[Tzun]

Michael Beasley to Suns as well 3-year, 18mill deal.

 

[Paulie]

Oh well I guess we'll be keeping Calderon maybe (not really a bad thing he's a pretty good PG), I sure hope Valanciunas is something.

 

[Stavingo]

Man, the Suns are gonna have a really nice lineup next season and may be in playoff contention.

 

[Tzun]

Who do the Suns have at PG?

 

[Stavingo]

Who do the Suns have at PG?

Their draft pick, Kendall Marshall I guess.

 

[Paulie]

They also just picked up Goran Dragic.

Edit: Is Summer League worth watching?

 

[Omnis]

Look what you get when you google Greg Oden:

Anyway, look who we drafted:



Dirk 2.

 

[JohnBM01]

With all the wheeling and dealing after a most unusual 2011-2012 NBA season, the run for the 2012-2013 NBA season has seen a massive number of changes being made. Sorting out of the trading and dealing madness will be done with this thread. This thread was created to discuss all offseason news and notes in preparation of the 2012-2013 season of NBA basketball. That involves things like trades, speculation, and things of that nature. Even the offseason can be just as intense as any regular season of play. So if you want to discuss the offseason; it's time for you to get out of the shadows, speak up, and get this rock rolling.

This thread was created per the request of our own Omnis, whom I thank.

 

[JohnBM01]

We got Jeremy Lin as part of a four-year, $30M deal. Teams have only three or so days to match or better the offer. I personally want to see Jeremy Lin try to lift the Rockets from the doldrums and back to "we can compete in the West" status.

 

[a6m5]

Wasn't he a restricted FA? If I were NY, I'd match. They reportedly agreed to a 3-year contract with Kidd, but if I were NY, I'd match. Again, Yuan & Taiwan Dollar will more than pay for any amount overpaid on Lin. Plus, he's a fan favorite there even without that coming into play.

Now I hear Lowry is headed to Toronto, and that might put Calderon on the move(you know he's going to Portland! j/k). It's quite a point guard shuffle this (off)season.

 

[Stavingo]

Wow, now there are reports saying Grant Hill may join the Lakers, if that happens they will become contenders for the title.

 

[Spacegoat]

Wasn't he a restricted FA? If I were NY, I'd match. They reportedly agreed to a 3-year contract with Kidd, but if I were NY, I'd match. Again, Yuan & Taiwan Dollar will more than pay for any amount overpaid on Lin. Plus, he's a fan favorite there even without that coming into play.

I've seen a couple of reports stating that if the Knicks lose out on Lin, then they are going to try and bring your boy, Felton back to NY.

Now I hear Lowry is headed to Toronto.

Excellent deal for Toronto, in my opinion.

 

[a6m5]

Lowry is a quality player who could help any team. Felton did good with the Knicks. I repeat my opinion of Felton. Felton is a great starting point guard. For the team you are playing against. Don't get mislead by the stats, I think Felton possesses the lowest basketball I.Q. of all point guards! We had one year of Felton here in Portland, and he was the worst point guard we've seen in awhile(and we haven't had many good ones). Thank god, because had he put up some numbers, front office and the fans would've been dumb enough to resign this guy.

Wow, now there are reports saying Grant Hill may join the Lakers, if that happens they will become contenders for the title.

As much as I want to say Gran Hill is 80 years old, he still got some skills, and is a very smart player. But he's 80!

 

[McLaren]

We got Jeremy Lin as part of a four-year, $30M deal. Teams have only three or so days to match or better the offer. I personally want to see Jeremy Lin try to lift the Rockets from the doldrums and back to "we can compete in the West" status.

Dolan would be an absolute idiot to not match it. Jeremy brings in more money than he's worth & helped raked in millions for the Garden.

 

[Stavingo]

As much as I want to say Gran Hill is 80 years old, he still got some skills, and is a very smart player. But he's 80!

Who would you prefer to start at SF if you were LA? MWP or Grant Hill?

 

[a6m5]

Who would you prefer to start at SF if you were LA? MWP or Grant Hill?

Neither? I thought Barnes would've been a good fit, but he's been rotting on the bench, and for a good reason, too.