need help GT World Championship

[gt4_n00b]

DId this championship a while ago with my fully modded minolta. I think each race was worth under 10 a-spec points. I'm not too sure though.

 

[Pink_the_Floyd]

Quick question, how many A-Spec points do you get for a GT World Championship race using the Minolta? I was about to start it last night in my Jaguar XJ220, but it looks like it will be pretty hard work, so I might just wait until I've done El Capitan this weekend and use the Minolta like everyone else... doesn't it make it a walkover though?

This event isn't hard at all, I used a stock Toyota GT-one and the event ended up like this:

1.Me: 96 points
2.Jag. XLR-9: 52 points
.........

I lost some points at La Sarthe, I could have been first but I spun out at lap 2 in one of the last corners.Thus I had to pit while I saw the Jaguar XLR-9 having a 37 sec. lead so I decided to put in the last two laps in B-spec.He came in 6th after the pitstop but not for long.

The Minolta Toyota and Toyota 7 were all over the place as their tires were worn off,the Gillet Vertigo was slower in the corners so I was in third.At the last corner the CLK-GTR spun out and was stuck so my B-spec driver took his wel deserved second place 👍

This event is no big deal if you have enough driving skill 👍


Cheers,

 

[HsMjsty]

HsMjsty, are you driving the car with ASM on and TC on? If so, then try turning ASM off and leaving TC on to level 3 or maybe less(haven't tried that yet). The Minolta will be easier to oversteer/rotate with enough practice and will accelerate at a more rapid pace thanks to a lower TC setting. I've ran through this series with a Nissan R92CP so you may want to try that car as well.

Thanks for repsonding, you're the only one so far, i'm gonna try these settings right away, litteraly. It seems my questions/info may have been taken on par with regards to only my self as opposed to this entire thread. i have read every post in this thread and this car is spoken of the most with the list specifics.

Maybe those that did win this series with this car would be willing to submit the settings they used in detail, that may be most helpful.

Thanks to all so far in the thread, btw, anyone stating this to be and easy series should consider what car they ran with against what opposition since that is the point so many are facing now.

 

[Guyver 1]

No problem at all HsMjsty. On the tighter circuits(like Hong Kong), you may want to leave the turbo off, so that you will have a better torque curve to help push your car out of low speed corners more quickly. Turbos are nice but they do lag though. For the R92CP, I ran in this whole series stock and found it to be quite adequate. The Toyota should be able to do the same. Anyhow, let me know if you have any more questions.

 

[HsMjsty]

i'll try that next.

i ran with the turbo last attempt, qualified first and kept the lead in practice for 10 laps when my rears RSH were getting redish, so i pitted. i figured it was a good sign. i also set my trans to auto #12 which kept me ahead of that blasted 787B. UNTIL i had to pit after he did. he pitted at 11 and i pitted at 13, figuring my lead should have been built up a little but even during the first 10 i couldnt shake him between my vehicle buttox and 4 seconds, however as the tires get worse so does the driving and before i knew it after i got out of the pits it wasnt the 787B after me anymore, instead i had two others (prb R8 and 390) and the 787B was way out infront, my plan turned to liquid human waste and i found myself fighting REAL HARD for 4th place. gonna try something next time like enter the event and check which group of opponents are present before signing up to have my ass0 handed to me.

Without seeming retarded, it was like the AI got more aggressive towards the end, some others have noticed this too, even in this thread somewhere.

 

[Guyver 1]

Yeah, they do seem to drive a little bit better in the later quarters of the races. Even in practice sessions, you can see their times improve after a few laps. Heh,heh, I guess it makes it more fun. Anyhow, what race did you try?

 

[kamil234]

Woot, i finally beat it after a few tries. I won by over 20 points, i used a Toyotal Minolta, suspension everything the same, besides ride height down and downforce on both ends 3/4 way. rh in front rsh in back.

 

[HsMjsty]

Hong Kong was the rat too beat, 3rd race. As far as the series goes, I dont have any issues in winning overall, i want to win each race, much harder, with the 88c and these opponents.

i would be curious to know who has won each race with what car against which oposition.

 

[JohnBM01]

Whenever A-Spec points are around 10 points, it means that it's an evenly-matched battle. You know, it's like pitting two identically-prepared cars together. And when the competition is this close, you know it comes down to the driver. Of course, A-Spec points may seem pointless, but think of 10 A-Spec points as Normal difficulty. Anything lower is easier, and anything higher is more challenging. So when the Minolta Toyota 88C-V went to work, GT4 want to give a brother at most 10 A-Spec. I don't know too much about the 88C-V's racing history, but I bet it would have came close to winning Le Mans several times. Of course, Mazda's still the only Japanese manufacturer to win Le Mans. And since both variations of the Le Mans race is in GT4, you may want to get revenge and give Toyota its first Le Mans win with GT4's rendition of the 24 Hours of Le Mans (or in this game, Circuit de la Sarthe). The Minolta Toyota is awesome. And if you're facing the Nissan R92CP race car, it's perhaps the closest fight you can have among two Japanese heavyweights. And if you know your automobile companies, Toyota and Nissan are bigtime rivals. Two Japanese companies who just DO NOT like each other on track. Almost as if it is the Michigan/Ohio State of auto racing.

Anyways, the Minolta Toyota 88C-V is an awesome car. If you have it in your garage and want to make a big impression, this is your superweapon against the pack. Until I find out what race I have to win to get the Nissan R92CP (unless you want to spoil it for me), I think this is a tough car to beat as well. You're going to have a tough time in GT World Championship beating either one of these cars unless you have some serious firepower.

 

[Polyphony001]

B-spec the El capitan 200mi race, Minolta after 45 minutes by using TS020
Turbo4, oil change and then enter.

Come up against:

BMW V12 LMR
GT-One TS020
Pescarolo Courage C60
Playstation Pescarolo Judd C60
BMW McLaren F1 GTR

So far ive done races 1-6, finding Tokyo and Super Speedway far too easy, Hong Kong still too hard (5th) and Managed to breeze through Seoul, El capitan and NYC. On to Opera reverse tonight. The Playstation C60 is my only worthy adversary.

 

[Matt BCFC]

So far with my Minolta;

Race 1: 1st
Race 2: 1st
Race 3: 4th (b-spec)
Race 4: 1st

I did add the turbo but Im sure better drivers wont even need that and ive used Super Hard tyres (probably better if you have hard on the front two and super hard on the back two but I stupidly didnt buy any hard tyres) and all the races baring Race 3 I havnt pitted in.

 

[Pink_the_Floyd]

You guys can't win the GT World Championship with a fully modded GT-one?

I even beated GT All Stars this morning with a stock GT-one except for RH and RSH tires.The field is like this:

787B
R92CP
Me:GT-one
Bentley Speed 8
Toyota 7
R390 GT1

At high speed ring lapped the R390 and after 7 laps got a gap of 30+ sec. on the 787B.

These events aren't really hard.I even beated the Minolta with ease in GT World Championship with always a gap of minimum 15 sec.

How easy can you get?

Maybe I'm more skilled?...... 💡



Cheers,

 

[ali900]

Want the easiest (to me) way to beat that series?
Step 1: Aquire the Toyoto Minolta (sp?) Race car from winning the respective endurance race (25% req)
Step 2: Add stage 4 turbo
Step 3: Enter it in the 24 hour Nurburging (sp? again ) and win the Formula One Race Car. (B-Spec wins easily)
Step 4: Enter it and whup up on all opponents in the GT World Championship (B-spec wins most, but not all)

Assuming you have completed all Beginner and Professional races now, enjoy Extreme. The F1 car does great against the competition.

I agree with this... Get the Minolta from the El Captain Endurance... 💡
I raced a Caddy Cien and it did it All fine with BSpec... All you need to do it keep checking it and pit correctly and the Minolta is yours
The minolta is Fast enough and weighs about 800KG so its a perfect Race car
You can have a challange by completing it with the CLK - GTR but if you want to go the easier way its best to get the Toyota minolta or the Audi-R8 👍
ALSO NOTE: Do add turbo to this car as it will make it Tougher and stronger and add some tires... Racing 1-2-3...i dont know the setup but i used the r3 tires

After the race you will be relived and have a Long Deep Sigh of reliefe and be happy with the small clip!! and extreme hall is yours... Good Luck!!

 

[ali900]

Part 2 Concluded :

Also to add...
buy tires and pit EXACTLY half way as it helps because the other cars pit in a bit after the half way point which you can pass the lead with. DO not worry if they over take you in the pits... it does happen...
Also dont forget to check oil before you race
check your fuel and tire wear from time to time...

 

[HsMjsty]

Part 2 Concluded :

Also to add...
buy tires and pit EXACTLY half way as it helps because the other cars pit in a bit after the half way point which you can pass the lead with. DO not worry if they over take you in the pits... it does happen...
Also dont forget to check oil before you race
check your fuel and tire wear from time to time...

So far this i think helps me most. i will try that tatic next, by tonight proabably.

The best car i have is the Minolta so far at 31.x% complete and almost 3000 b-spec level and about 4500 aspec points (including driving missions 1-13). what i want to know is has anyone beat this series by winning every race (10/10) with the minolta against the group of cars i listed earlier in this thread? My problem is i am currently in the series on HK Race 3 and dont have a very recent backup save, yes i know. i would rather know that with some settings this race and the remaing 7 could be won individually or i'll go back to my previous save at about 23% and build back up. i do not have the luxury of simply buying a new car.

Thanks Pink The Floyd, but maybe if i had a GT-One i could answer you. in any case you are probably more skilled, but i'd still kick your butt in an Autobianchi race!

Cheers!

 

[Pink_the_Floyd]

So far this i think helps me most. i will try that tatic next, by tonight proabably.

Thanks Pink The Floyd, but maybe if i had a GT-One i could answer you. in any case you are probably more skilled, but i'd still kick your butt in an Autobianchi race!

Cheers!

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Cheers,

 

[Pink_the_Floyd]

Part 2 Concluded :

Also to add...
buy tires and pit EXACTLY half way as it helps because the other cars pit in a bit after the half way point which you can pass the lead with. DO not worry if they over take you in the pits... it does happen...
Also dont forget to check oil before you race
check your fuel and tire wear from time to time...

I think I've got a better strategy (maybe)

First buy some qualifying tires and get good settings for every race.If you can place yourself in first you're starting good.Before the race change the tires to medium or hard for the GT-one.Try to keep the cars behind you, after a couple of laps you normally should be feeling good with the car and track.If so, your capable of getting good gaps like 10 sec. or so (I managed to keep the Minolta on a 30 sec. gap with a GT-one, tires, front: Medium rear: Hard).The other cars will pit once a race just like ali900 said.But if you have a good gap you don't have to worry about your pit strategy since one pitstop per race is enough 👍

A good advice:

Get used to your car!

get used to his acceleration, handling and braking.If you know your car very well, it will help you alot as you know what your car and you are capable off 👍


Cheers,

 

[bigwadedawg]

i'm stuck here, too i have toyota gt-one stage 4 turbo is it easier to win that with or without the turbo any help on tire wear already using hard tires

 

[Pink_the_Floyd]

i'm stuck here, too i have toyota gt-one stage 4 turbo is it easier to win that with or without the turbo any help on tire wear already using hard tires

Use hard on the front, super hard on the rear.Turbo is your choise, but maybe it will be overpowered with 1158 bhp.Too much bhp isn't good if you want to beat them in corners.


Cheers,

 

[Touring Mars]

I completed this last night in a stock Minolta Toyota last night, and although I won the series comfortably, it was not until I had opted for a change of tyres... Race: Mediums at the front and Race: Hards at the rear... still had to pit atleast once per race.

Was up against another Minolta, both LM Nissan's ('89 and '92), and two 'also-rans', the Mercedes race-car and the Gillet Vertigo, both of which were absolutely nowhere throughout...

Even the hard tyres didn't last long enough at Opera Paris (18 laps), I was all over the place on lap 9 (my in-lap) and lap 18... had to decide whether to stop again at lap 16-17, but chose to stay out... my 'one-stop' strategy cost me dearly (finished 4th), but I was crap at this circuit anyway... Also, as others have reported, I had problems at Hong Kong. I was also very disappointing at Suzuka, managing only third...

I was 19 points clear with 3 races to go, and only needed to finish ahead of the other Minolta at Suzuka (Race 8) to wrap up the championship with two races to spare, but the AI had other ideas, and I was flogged at Suzuka, meaning I had to win race 9 at Grand Valley, which I did. Didn't need to do race 10 (Le Sarthe), but had done this race individually as a warm up with Medium tyres... was leading comfortably (against the Jaguar LM car), but had to pit after lap 2, and ended up 2nd by a full 18 seconds..

Still, despite not winning 3 of the 9 races, it was still pretty comfortable in the end, so I'm going to try it again in a less powerful car...

 

[Hun200kmh]

The only availabe car in my garage to run this is the Toyota 7 (I didn't do Mission #34 yet and I have no LMP cars). As I?m poor (150.000 Cr. ) I didn't buy the stage 4 turbo (90.000 Cr., IIRC), but I bought Hard tyres for the rear. I only did last night the first two races, became 1st in Tokyo, 2nd in the Speedway. Tokyo was a easy win, but Speedway's ranking was dued to the other cars pitstops (they pitted twice).

We'll see if the Toyota 7, inspite being a slower car than the rest of the field (Sauber, Minolta, R8, 787B, Pescarolo) is enough to win. I'm afraid that the tracks I don't know well (Hong Kong, Opera) will be a disaster.

If this car won't get me there, I guess I'll have to complete other races and championships, get more money, and buy or win a LMP car.

 

[Polyphony001]

This is what I learnt from the GT world champ:

1. NEVER B-spec
2. Correct pitting saves your bacon.
3. The Minolta rules at it.
4. Hong Kong is an appalling race - i can only keep from being 6th by after the long straight with the tight hairpin, just going flat out at the wall and being guided round - saves loads of time!
5. Choose your opposition carefully, without the 787b, minolta or sauber c9 its much easier.
6. It's the only competition so far ive had any grief with...

 

[Famine]

I'd agree with that in part.

At Tokyo, the BMW LMR will beat the Minolta, due to pit strategy (it doesn't, the Minolta does). The ideal field doesn't have the R8, Minolta, BMW LMR or R92 in. The R89 and Bentley Speed 8 are easily beatable by the average driver.

 

[DriftaX]

Try a-spec....b-spec can't win the series in any car.

Any stock LMP car can win this series easily. That is the ones over 750hp..I've won the series 3 times with a stock Audi R8, stock BMW V12 and stock Bentley Speed 8. I didn't dominate but won easily. The two Nissans the Minolta Toyota and sometimes the 787b are the cars you need to "outgun" and beat.

If you are having trouble qualify for the races. Improve your position from last. it will help alot, esepcially with the rolling starts where the lead car gets 5+ secs on you sometimes. Plus in the quaifying you will see the pace the other cars run and you will know what lap pace you need to run to win.

A tuned one will be even easier. I found with the LMP cars that they run better (and faster) with mixed tires. Put a softer one in front and harder in back. R3front/R2back seems to work for me on these races just fine.

Are you serious You cant win the GT World CHampionship with anycar? So this means I have to get my IA license?

 

[DriftaX]

What is a LMP car and how do I get one?

 

[Famine]

LMP = Le Mans Prototype, the top class of Le Mans cars. These include the BMW LMR V12, Mazda 787B, Toyota TS020 GT-One, Nissan R390 GT1 LM, Bentley Speed 8 EXP, Audi R8 (although the Japanese ones are old GT1-class, they are pretty much the equivalent). Group C racers are the same things, but older and with chunks more power - Toyota Minolta 88C, Nissan R89C, Nissan R92CP, Sauber C9.

You can get them by checking one of the prize car lists.

 

[JohnBM01]

You know, GT4's GT World Championship is perhaps the most exciting and most challenging of all of them. The cars have changed since past GT games, and this one is about the best of them all. I'd hate to imagine what GT5 would be like. Imagine 4 LMP race cars matched up against two GTPs. The action would REALLY be insane then. Hong Kong takes some getting used to. What I did was that I Practiced, then Qualified. I got pole position, so I wouldn't have to worry about the classic 6th to 1st dogfight we're all used to in Gran Turismo. When to pit is a big decision. Pit early (and at the right time), and you should only be behind by 10 or so seconds in Hong Kong. That's fine. Why? Because the others have to pit. Pit at the right moment, and keep driving your way through the field, and eventually after 18 laps, you'll win the race. That's how I did it, and I got sweet revenge after being lapped.

Be sure to use the Practice feature when in a championship. It counts as qualifying even though it isn't exactly PRACTICE.

 

[Tenacious D]

I agree, that series is a bear! But when you get your victory, you know you did something big.

Here are some tips for those still struggling:

- Sort through the posts in this thread for advice on tires, car choices and pitting strategy. Unless you're a great driver, forget about using the Mercedes CLK Touring Car. Get an LMP type. I waited till I did 50% of the game to tackle it, when I found that I needed a more powerful car. At 50% completion, you get awarded Jaguar XJR-9, which is a good car for this race and heck, it's free. Some other posts have advice on other car award ideas.

- Think strategically. Look at the number of laps in each race and divide them up so that you pit with a strategy in mind. On long courses with few curves like Tokyo 246 or Seoul, I use hard front/super hard rear and go as long as I can. On Tokyo and Motegi, I won't have to pit at all. When I have to pit, I'll pit with 4 laps to go and do soft front/medium rear on my Jag XJR-9 since the fronts wear slower. On road courses with lots of turns like Hong Kong (yuck!), I do medium/hard for 7 laps, pitting twice, then 4 laps with soft/medium and I usually get at least 4th place. When you pit, don't refuel. Your car should be lighter with less gas, and you start with more than enough to finish.

- Learn all you can about racing rules! If you have GT2, it has a fantastic tutorial on how to race, covering the basic techniques of things like cornering and other aspects of racing. Practice those tracks. Maximize your driving skills. Take corners in easy, out fast. The less you crank your wheels and the more gradually you take a turn, the faster you'll go thru it, but watch your speed. You can only take a curve so fast. Make your turns flow smoothly into each other. Generally, the darker track on the road is the path to take. It's the correct "magic line" more or less. Make sure you know where your power band is. Keep your engine revved up high as much as possible without pegging your rev limiter, except for those nasty hairpin curves obviously. Learn how to draft, following after a lead car in its wake. There's a column of clear air quite some distance behind a fast car, and in it, you'll go much faster. Use the momentum to pass the miscreant.

- Practice the courses. You'll need to make sure you know them because the lead bot usually drives it perfectly. You also need to do this to make sure you set up your transmission right. When you practice, use soft tires. If you're dialed into your car, you should qualify 1st place or close to it, and have an easier race. Use B-Spec to see how your bot driver does the course if you're having trouble, but keep in mind that he'll only do about 90% of what your car is capable of.

- Tune your transmission! You should run out of gear, almost pegging your rev limiter on your last gear, at the end of the longest straightaway as you have to brake for the curve. Take practice laps till you have your transmission tuned properly, not by guessing like I did for a while. I relied too much on memory from GT3 and it doesn't always work, ugh.

Another couple of things. If you slapped a turbo on your car to give it ungodly torque, learn to be easy on the gas the first three gears. Don't queal the tires too much. That not only means you're wearing them out faster, but that you're throwing your horsepower away and going slower than you could be.

 

[bigwadedawg]

thanks for the help i think ill try without the turbo

 

[rad.com]

Hi guys i was wondering if any of you could help me with the gt world championships i have the Minolta 88-v and have done the first 2 races which are tokyo and super speed way but now i am stuck of Hong Kong i have been trying to do this track for over 2 weeks!!!! and still no luck so if any of you guys have done it with the minolta please could you post your settings and tyres you used thanks alot