New Bond Film - "Spectre" - October / November 2015

[Sanji Himura]

That was the worst Bond song is history IMO. I think they need to move away from orchestral and freshen it up a bit, especially after Adelle.

I happen to like Adelle, thank you very much. I would much rather have her do this instead of Smith, to be perfectly honest.

 

[prisonermonkeys]

Worst theme for me was Madonna's Die Another Day theme.

EON's problem was that they had wanted Madonna for years, especially since some of her stuff with William Orbit was pretty good. But Madge had been resisting for years, largely because she wanted to be able to include any title theme on an upcoming album, and she wanted the sound to be consistent with the rest of the album. By the time Die Another Day went into production, she had parted ways with Orbit and wanted to bring her own producer in rather than work with David Arnold, and the end result was a theme that was written for the American Life album first and the film second.

The only possibly good thing that might come of Smith's theme is that he apparently wrote it in January, so there is a real chance that Thomas Newman has been able to work it into the score - something that we haven't seen since U2 wrote the GoldenEye theme months before Tina Turner came on-board, giving Eric Serra the chance to work it into his score.

 

[Pezzarinho17]

New TV Spot:

 

[prisonermonkeys]

 

[Pezzarinho17]

"Should we dine and dash?"

 

[Venari]

Skyfall was a great song, but Adele didn't do it very well.

Listen to this:

 

[prisonermonkeys]

Final version of the poster:

Now that's more like it.

 

[ProjectWHaT]

 

[JKgo]

...That fleet of Jags!!!

 

[prisonermonkeys]

Jalopnik article on how Williams modified the C-X75:

http://jalopnik.com/everything-you-...pectres-jaguar-c-1730568764?rev=1442255691259

 

[Famine]

I happen to like Adelle, thank you very much.

Just not enough to get the name right.

Skyfall was a great song, but Adele didn't do it very well.

Listen to this:

You know, with the blanket airtime SKAFOW got on the radio, on the TV, at the Oscars, I never actually knew what the words to the song were until I watched the film with the subtitles on. On that version I can actually hear them.

She utterly butchered it and got a mantelpiece full of awards for it. Or, as she'd say, A MANTOWPEE FOWOWORD.

 

[prisonermonkeys]

She utterly butchered it and got a mantelpiece full of awards for it. Or, as she'd say, A MANTOWPEE FOWOWORD.

Given that "Another Way to Die" contained the lyrics "I know the blinger with the slick trigger finger for Her Majesty" and "Shoot 'em up, bang-bang" (which, admittedly, was still better than Madge's out-of-context references to Sigmund Freud), pretty much anything Adele came up with was going to be good. Even if it was LAIDER SKAFOW LAIDER CRABORE WAIRWERE STATOW ANFAYETOW TURGEWAREARE ASKAFOW.

 

[JKgo]

...I've absolutely no idea what you guys are saying.

Anyways, my new fav pic for the month:

Open sesame...

 

[Robin]

...That fleet of Jags!!!

Sad that that's the most C-X75's you will ever see in a line EVER

I wonder if they will sell some them off as props, I guess it's more likely they will be destroyed after filming like the NFS replicas were.

 

[AudiMan2011]

Sad that that's the most C-X75's you will ever see in a line EVER

I wonder if they will sell some them off as props, I guess it's more likely they will be destroyed after filming like the NFS replicas were.

Likely the ones that have been put through the vigorous stunt driving sequences will be put to the scrapheap. I do hope they keep at least one pristine example.

 

[prisonermonkeys]

...I've absolutely no idea what you guys are saying.

Which is the point. We're speaking Adele-ese. "SKAFOW" is "Skyfall". "LAIDER SKAFOW LAIDER CRABORE WAIRWERE STATOW ANFAYETOW TURGEWAREARE ASKAFOW" is the chorus: "Let the sky fall / Let it crumble / We will stand tall / And face it all, together / At Skyfall."

 

[JKgo]

Which is the point. We're speaking Adele-ese. "SKAFOW" is "Skyfall". "LAIDER SKAFOW LAIDER CRABORE WAIRWERE STATOW ANFAYETOW TURGEWAREARE ASKAFOW" is the chorus: "Let the sky fall / Let it crumble / We will stand tall / And face it all, together / At Skyfall."

...

Why do I get the feeling you poured your heart out to "translate" that?

 

[prisonermonkeys]

...

Why do I get the feeling you poured your heart out to "translate" that?

I have no idea, since I Googled it.

 

[JKgo]

I have no idea, since I Googled it.

...

Why do I get the feeling you poured googled your heart out to "translate" that?

... Fixed.

 

[Robin]

Another Spectre car...

Range Rover 'Sentinel', £300,000

 

[GTboyz]

Sneak preview of the theme song :

https://twitter.com/SonyPicturesUK

 

[prisonermonkeys]

Ugh. Sounds like David Arnold trying to present a pastiche of John Barry and apeing it to death.

 

[GTboyz]

it's only like 15 seconds of it. I'll reserve judgement when the song comes out on the 25th.

 

[Sanji Himura]

I'll take the "eat my words" special now...

 

[prisonermonkeys]

Spoiler-ish detail from the November issue of Empire, but given the context, it's not altogether unexpected:

Spoiler

Quantum is a division of SPECTRE, or possibly the name of an operation, or a front for SPECTRE to operate in more legitimate circles.

 

[GTboyz]

knew that months ago, but i forgot where did i read it.

edit : the theme song is on Spotify https://play.spotify.com/album/0iOC24pLNQ6BsEU74GuhNe

i have to say, it's not as bad as Another Way To Die, but it's just not good enough.

 

[prisonermonkeys]

i have to say, it's not as bad as Another Way To Die, but it's just not good enough.

Honestly, I would rather listen to "Another Way to Die", because at least Jack White tried to be interesting. This just sounds bland; if you had to rank the 23 themes, this would be number 13; there are twelve better and twelve worse. If you had to write a text book on composing Bond themes, this would be the first case study: it does everything every other Bond theme does and nothing that they don't - and consequently, it doesn't do anything new or fresh. I mean, even the lyrics are dull:

Spoiler

I've been here before
But always hit the floor
I've spent a lifetime running
And I always get away
But with you I'm feeling something
That makes me want to stay

I'm prepared for this
I never shoot to miss
But I feel like a storm is coming
If I'm going to make it through the day
And there's no more use in running
This is something I've got to face

If I risk it all
Could you break our fall
How do I live
How do I breathe
When you're not here I'm suffocating
I want to feel love run through my blood
Tell me is this where I give it all up
For you, I have to risk it all
Cause the writing's on the wall

A million shards of glass
That haunt me from my past
As the stars begin to gather
And the light begins to fade
When all hope begins to shatter
Know that I won't be afraid

If I risk it all
Could you break our fall
How do I live
How do I breathe
When you're not here I'm suffocating
I want to feel love run through my blood
Tell me is this where I give it all up
For you, I have to risk it all
Cause the writing's on the wall
The writing's on the wall

How do I live
How do I breathe
When you're not here I'm suffocating
I want to feel love run through my blood
Tell me is this where I give it all up

How do I live
How do I breathe
When you're not here I'm suffocating
I want to feel love run through my blood
Tell me is this where I give it all up

For you, I have to risk it all
Cause the writing's on the wall

It feels like a song Smith was working on, but only had a rough scaffold to begin with when he got the call from EON, so he just fleshed out a generic Sam Smith song with a few vague references to Bond after reading bits of the screenplay. It's no wonder they managed to keep it so secret for so long - it has spent most of its life as a Sam Smith song before being resurrected as a Bind theme.

 

[Sanji Himura]

It feels like a song Smith was working on, but only had a rough scaffold to begin with when he got the call from EON, so he just fleshed out a generic Sam Smith song with a few vague references to Bond after reading bits of the screenplay. It's no wonder they managed to keep it so secret for so long - it has spent most of its life as a Sam Smith song before being resurrected as a Bind theme.

I know that the adverse is usually true, but I actually prefer songs like this to a theme fit for the film. It makes it, in a twisted sense of things, personal to the artist singing it rather than to the film production. That is why I think that Chris Cornell's 'You Know My Name' worked. It was composed and presented in the film as an impersonal song (to EON) compared to the previous 15 years of Bond themes.

Otherwise, I agree with the rest of your post.

 

[GTboyz]

Honestly, I would rather listen to "Another Way to Die", because at least Jack White tried to be interesting. This just sounds bland; if you had to rank the 23 themes, this would be number 13; there are twelve better and twelve worse. If you had to write a text book on composing Bond themes, this would be the first case study: it does everything every other Bond theme does and nothing that they don't - and consequently, it doesn't do anything new or fresh. I mean, even the lyrics are dull:

Spoiler

I've been here before
But always hit the floor
I've spent a lifetime running
And I always get away
But with you I'm feeling something
That makes me want to stay

I'm prepared for this
I never shoot to miss
But I feel like a storm is coming
If I'm going to make it through the day
And there's no more use in running
This is something I've got to face

If I risk it all
Could you break our fall
How do I live
How do I breathe
When you're not here I'm suffocating
I want to feel love run through my blood
Tell me is this where I give it all up
For you, I have to risk it all
Cause the writing's on the wall

A million shards of glass
That haunt me from my past
As the stars begin to gather
And the light begins to fade
When all hope begins to shatter
Know that I won't be afraid

If I risk it all
Could you break our fall
How do I live
How do I breathe
When you're not here I'm suffocating
I want to feel love run through my blood
Tell me is this where I give it all up
For you, I have to risk it all
Cause the writing's on the wall
The writing's on the wall

How do I live
How do I breathe
When you're not here I'm suffocating
I want to feel love run through my blood
Tell me is this where I give it all up

How do I live
How do I breathe
When you're not here I'm suffocating
I want to feel love run through my blood
Tell me is this where I give it all up

For you, I have to risk it all
Cause the writing's on the wall

It feels like a song Smith was working on, but only had a rough scaffold to begin with when he got the call from EON, so he just fleshed out a generic Sam Smith song with a few vague references to Bond after reading bits of the screenplay. It's no wonder they managed to keep it so secret for so long - it has spent most of its life as a Sam Smith song before being resurrected as a Bind theme.

funny thing is, Sam Mendes helped writing the lyrics lol. Another Way To Die isn't actually bad, it's just that both voices (White and Keys) didn't work well together that it ruins the song so bad. It sounded like an early raw recording that made me hate it. At Least the guitar riff sounds good though.

But yeah, Writing's On The Wall turns out to be a disappointment to me actually. I don't like Smith's falsetto in here.

 

[Famine]

Another Craig Bond film, another wallpaper-dross theme song.