NEW DLC (TWIN RING MOTEGI & Scion FR-S'12)

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Scion FR-S, looks like another quality car to drift with. I don't see the hate on the car, its a car! That's what this games about, driving something you'd never drive in real life.

I personally would have liked something else but I'm not going to bash something for free, if I don't like it I won't download it, simple. I'd really hate to send some of you a gift or anything, you'd bash the heck out of it and send it back.

For those that are ready and willing to pay for DLC, think of this as an early savings plan.
 
Well, I can't complain.
Motegi is one of my favorite tracks, and $5 for all variations is okay for me. They did a nice job with the track.

About the Scion, it's okay too. Considering it's the LHD model and not just a rebadge, and that it's free, I can say it's welcome to my garage.
 
This will more than likely be 20 bucks in Australia so I'm going to play the track for free on the other game.
 
There's nothing really official right now and we're already at page 14 full of complaining and whining!?

God, people these days are so impatient!
 
bmxmitch
There's nothing really official right now and we're already at page 14 full of complaining and whining!?

God, people these days are so impatient!

More so opinion but your right too much complaints especially complaining about complaints.
 
Point.. no-one has mentioned the GT Academy Nissans have they? How do they fit into this?
 
It almost feels like nobody can see any sort of silver lining. Sure, we get a car that even in real life is basically the same as one we already have but just like said car, its free. If they were charging you for it, then I'd see a reason to 🤬 bricks.

(copy/paste from other thread)

The fact it's free isn't really important. The problem is that it's being added to the premium roster as a new car, boosting the numbers. When they start advertising GT6 and it's 500 premium cars or whatever they won't have a footnote that says x number of cars are actually very similar and only 450 are unique models, will they?

It's the same issue over and over with PD, boosting the car list with similar cars so they can advertise big numbers without needing to model unique cars.
 
It almost feels like nobody can see any sort of silver lining. Sure, we get a car that even in real life is basically the same as one we already have but just like said car, its free. If they were charging you for it, then I'd see a reason to 🤬 bricks.

I can see a silver lining considering it's free and when you accept it's indeed another 'duplicate' probably introduced at the behest of Toyota.
First of, it introduces a new brand for the first time which might mean a new dealership being added which has a broader implication than just one new car.
Secondly, it's apparantly LHD which if you use cockpit view makes the experience significantly different than the RHD FT-86.
Then there are other, slightly trivial perhaps, advantages if it introduces new colours and has differently styled bodykit/spoiler options (which might be unlikely though).
And finally, it's most likely labelled a US car so it's eligible for Muscle Car events. :D
 
Point.. no-one has mentioned the GT Academy Nissans have they? How do they fit into this?

I did ;)

I think it's easy enough for GTA, on completion, to "tell" GT5 to gift us those cars, via their servers.

Aren't they already in GT5 though?

Nope as well as the icky blue paint and livery, they are tuned. I think one or two of them are named as such.

Bur depending on how you look at it, yes they *are* already in GT5.

Sigh.
 
(copy/paste from other thread)

The fact it's free isn't really important. The problem is that it's being added to the premium roster as a new car, boosting the numbers. When they start advertising GT6 and it's 500 premium cars or whatever they won't have a footnote that says x number of cars are actually very similar and only 450 are unique models, will they?

It's the same issue over and over with PD, boosting the car list with similar cars so they can advertise big numbers without needing to model unique cars.

How can GT stay relevant with only 500 cars?

Anyway, I don't know why, but this thread reminded of this.
 
How can GT stay relevant with only 500 cars?

Anyway, I don't know why, but this thread reminded of this.

Well the number is irrelevant to the point I was making in that they aren't going to tell you how many of the number are duplicates like this. Just like when they advertised 1000 cars for GT5 they didn't tell you how many were duplicates. Cars like this, free or otherwise, are just padding the future car list.
 
How can GT stay relevant with only 500 cars?

To be honest, that's all I expect for GT6, and if there are 500 completely different cars with a few additional duplicates, then it's even better.
I can't see them using Standard cars again, and neither can I see them creating near a 1000 (or about 600/700 additional) Premium cars before GT6.
Whether that's enough to stay relevant depends on what's chosen and what other new features are introduced.
 
Come on this gets a re badged Gt-86 and forza gets the brand new viper, PD needs to look outside of japan
 
Well the number is irrelevant to the point I was making in that they aren't going to tell you how many of the number are duplicates like this. Just like when they advertised 1000 cars for GT5 they didn't tell you how many were duplicates. Cars like this, free or otherwise, are just padding the future car list.

To be honest, that's all I expect for GT6, and if there are 500 completely different cars with a few additional duplicates, then it's even better.
I can't see them using Standard cars again, and neither can I see them creating near a 1000 (or about 600/700 additional) Premium cars before GT6.
Whether that's enough to stay relevant depends on what's chosen and what other new features are introduced.

Sorry, I was being facaetious. An object cannot simply be "relevant", it must be relevant to something else. What it tends to mean in popular journalism, when somebody says something is "relevant" is, essentially, "cool" or "in" - it certainly can't mean "useful" in the context of a videogame. It's the classic idea of dressing up opinion in objective- and official-sounding terminology. Combine that with all the hyperbolic, dramatic notions of "jumping ship" and maybe you'll understand what triggered that comment. :P

The problem remains, though, that it is impossible to be consistent with the definition of what constitutes a separate model, and what is just "filler". So I think it's time to be adults, just take the numbers with a grain of salt, and quietly curse the marketers (as always).

I doubt they'll recycle the Standards again, but I'd prefer it if they did. I'd rather not lose out on cars I enjoy for (what in my case is only) the sake of a difference of aesthetics - I don't use (m)any of the "premium only" features, really.
Maybe PD don't like the idea of charging us for DLC packs containing all the cars that are slated to be included in GT6, so that effectively you're only really paying for a handful of new cars, and for new features in the new game. The Standards aren't quite like that because GT5 did move things on in terms of physics / feel and online; "paying for the DLC twice" will only be "worth it" if GT6 moves things on at least as much. Regarding car count, we could already be at the 600 mark by the end of this year - by my very imprecise projections, at least.

As for the next DLC itself, my main "concern" is also why the price is different this time. Yet again, we need more information. Hopefully Sony will acknowledge this little leak and inform us of their plans.
 
thank god someone has realistically evaluated the situation :bowdown:

Which situation? The fact that Forza gets more DLC and which DLC is often considered better by most (including me to be honest)?
I'd also rather have the new Viper for free than the Scion and I mostly look with envy at a lot of the cars they included, either as DLC or the initial car list.
Apart from making me question sometimes whether I was right going for GT5 this hardly changes anything if GT5 currently is your only option.

I'm sure PD are aware of their main competitor's strategy and content but I think we all should know by now they don't respond directly to it if at all.
That could be considered unfortunate, disappointing or frustrating but that's just how it is, and constantly showing what Forza's got and GT doesn't have, won't 'awake' PD since they (perhaps stubbornly) carry on doing things their own way regardless.

So yes, Forza-players get a free Viper I can't drive whilst GT-players get a free Scion I can drive, that's the situation I put myself in by buying GT5 without the convenience of hindsight.
 
I think it's easy enough for GTA, on completion, to "tell" GT5 to gift us those cars, via their servers.

Nope as well as the icky blue paint and livery, they are tuned. I think one or two of them are named as such. Bur depending on how you look at it, yes they *are* already in GT5.
It has already been confirmed by PD that the Academy cars will be gifted.

As to whether some, or all, of the new DLC is already in GT5 via the last update is unknown. As it was a large update I am guessing all of it is already there awaiting to be unlocked.
 
Damn Gt5 gets another duplicate and this is what Fm4 is getting. Pd wake up!!
It's a worry.
Come on this gets a re badged Gt-86 and forza gets the brand new viper, PD needs to look outside of japan
thank god someone has realistically evaluated the situation :bowdown:

You lot sound like generals worried about losing a war or something. I'm sure you can trade your ps3+gt5 for an xbox360+fm4 for little to no investment. The good thing about being a consumer is the ability to jump ship at any time. There's no point in losing sleep over some other game being better than the one you got since you can just walk to the store and get it.
 
Damn Gt5 gets another duplicate and this is what Fm4 is getting. Pd wake up!!

Just to give a sense of how incompetent Polyphony are, all the cars that are in Forza Motorsport's DLC's and are not in GT5 are most likely to be exclusively licensed to Turn10 and/or sublicensed from EA. I know for fact that the R18 and other LMP cars are exclusive to Turn10 which can sublicense to other games (I have a very good source on this in particular), common sense tells you that they won't give anything to PD, just like how EA have with Porsche, same possibly goes for the Huayra and Viper.

If PD were on top of their game they would have been at Le Mans proactively photographing cars and recording sounds for future DLC or games, but no, there was no PD or GT presence at the track, other than the Academy Graduates, all of GT's branding at the track has also been replaced by Forza branding, so Forza may have sealed full exclusivity for La Sarthe - basically meaning that La Sarthe will possibly not be in GT6, probably why Sonoma/Infineon is no longer in the game, nor does any intention to introduce it.

We must also remember that the DLC we are getting, are also from a predetermined back-log/schedule, so we shouldn't really be daring or wishing anything special.
 
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