North Korea, Sanctions, and Kim Jong-un

They could have literally packed tons of normal TNT into a mine, blown it up and just said it was a H bomb.
 
They may have a right to defend themselves, but they also have a duty and responsibility to feed their own people. Kim Jong Un is a vicious dictator with scant regard for the rights and well being of the North Korean people, so it's a bit rich to be defending such an odious regime in the name of 'rights'. They also signed the Nuclear Non-Proliferation treaty...
 
They may have a right to defend themselves, but they also have a duty and responsibility to feed their own people. Kim Jong Un is a vicious dictator with scant regard for the rights and well being of the North Korean people, so it's a bit rich to be defending such an odious regime in the name of 'rights'. They also signed the Nuclear Non-Proliferation treaty...

I think that you must read and see the videos first and let the people of north korea to deside if they want Kim or not
 
If it has been really a nuclear test China needs to step in and just annex North Korea. Execute the entire Kim family and be done with it.
Ask yourself this. Who are funding for these kind of projects? Except for China being long time allies and are the largest traders to the North.
 
The problem with these videos is that they are just one side of the story - the side that the regime will allow people to see and experience. Of the many reports and videos that I've read and seen on DPRK, many say that day-to-day life in Pyongyang is a lot better than they were expecting... but they are not naive enough to believe that this is all there is to North Korea. Foreign tourists are not allowed to go anywhere without a guide and are not permitted to film or report from many parts of the country, especially in rural DPRK where famine and poverty are commonplace. Pyongyang is most certainly not typical. Furthermore, is it really that surprising that so many North Koreans speak favourably of the regime when the penalty for not doing so is forced labour or death? Also, it is hardly surprising that high ranking officials, members of the military and others in the small elite that live in Pyongyang probably are quite happy with the way things are. But none of that means that the rest of the North Korean people should also be happy with their lot.
 
The problem with these videos is that they are just one side of the story - the side that the regime will allow people to see and experience. Of the many reports and videos that I've read and seen on DPRK, many say that day-to-day life in Pyongyang is a lot better than they were expecting... but they are not naive enough to believe that this is all there is to North Korea. Foreign tourists are not allowed to go anywhere without a guide and are not permitted to film or report from many parts of the country, especially in rural DPRK where famine and poverty are commonplace. Pyongyang is most certainly not typical. Furthermore, is it really that surprising that so many North Koreans speak favourably of the regime when the penalty for not doing so is forced labour or death? Also, it is hardly surprising that high ranking officials, members of the military and others in the small elite that live in Pyongyang probably are quite happy with the way things are. But none of that means that the rest of the North Korean people should also be happy with their lot.

The hard part is to separate truth from myth...and i know it's never black and white...all you have to do is to visit them.
 
The hard part is to separate truth from myth...and i know it's never black and white...all you have to do is to visit them.

As @TouringMars pointed out, simply visiting will do no good. A "visit" there is not a free-roam, photograph-all experience by any means.

Ask yourself this; for every country that has a mass of propoganda for-and-against (just on these forums you could include Greece, USA, Russia, Saudi and so on), those countries have allies with other governments. Why doesn't NK have those allies - why is even China condemning this latest move?
 
They think the West are war enemies due to the fact they are not communists and not follow the same ideals
I'm afraid that's not quite righy. North Korea is not communist; rather, they practice "juche", an ideology that emphasises total self-sufficiency. Nor do they hate the West - in fact, they're largely ambivalent to most of it. It's the United States that they despise because they see it as being imperialist, trying to force the rest of the world to adopt their values.
 
As @TouringMars pointed out, simply visiting will do no good. A "visit" there is not a free-roam, photograph-all experience by any means.

Ask yourself this; for every country that has a mass of propoganda for-and-against (just on these forums you could include Greece, USA, Russia, Saudi and so on), those countries have allies with other governments. Why doesn't NK have those allies - why is even China condemning this latest move?

I'm not qualified to say why DPRK not having any allies...but for my country i can say that they never asked me if i want to be a member of NATO or EU...resulting greek tax payers paying 1million a day sending greek troops wherever NATO interests is...while the same time cutting funds for health and education...The allies you mean is something the rulling class in MY country desided...for their interests.
 
About the H Bomb, theyre really glorifying it albeit in the missile form. I am enough to see Erik Tseng's videos on Youtube. Check it out, good stuff there.

About North Korea in general imho, its really clear evidence, from all sources officially and unofficially, that there is something completely gone wrong on North Korea even compared to any other countries in existence. I admit the people arent "evil". But almost all of them are living in a constant huge threat of politics in North Korea.

I hope the government of North Korea is no more. Its basically a hellhole of humanity and even more sad to see it compared to its closest and formerly same culture the South Korea.
 
When is the next general election and who is expected to be on the ballot challenging Kim for the leadership?

There's alot to be explained but my knowledge in the english language is not that good so i,m gonna post a video that he explained much better than i can.


 
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When is the next general election and who is expected to be on the ballot challenging Kim for the leadership?
Or for that matter, what is the chance of setting people to prison camps if they choose any people other than Kim.

No wonder Kim got 99 percent of votes. They set up a "election" so it looks democratic where the real thing is they have been told (or forced to) elect Kim in a threat of "further actions". Its a de facto kingdom..... the corrupt one.
 
I'm not qualified to say why DPRK not having any allies...but for my country i can say that they never asked me if i want to be a member of NATO or EU...resulting greek tax payers paying 1million a day sending greek troops wherever NATO interests is...while the same time cutting funds for health and education...The allies you mean is something the rulling class in MY country desided...for their interests.
Right, Greece was forced into the EU and NATO, just like the DPRK was forced to isolate itself.
History lessons, take them, please, for your own good.
 
Right, Greece was forced into the EU and NATO, just like the DPRK was forced to isolate itself.
History lessons, take them, please, for your own good.
Every nation has a choice of government.

Pity, they choose hostility.
 
Or for that matter, what is the chance of setting people to prison camps if they choose any people other than Kim.

No wonder Kim got 99 percent of votes. They set up a "election" so it looks democratic where the real thing is they have been told (or forced to) elect Kim in a threat of "further actions". Its a de facto kingdom..... the corrupt one.
I should also note that they worship the Kim family like a religion, so much to the point of having its own dating system, pictures of the Kim leaders hanging in every household in North Korea, sending girls to the capital where they are often sexualized by the country leaders (I can't really prove that they were raped)...
 
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