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Another little irk, he claimed that NFS Hot pursuit's handling is better than GT5s. Probably because I beat (completely DESTROYED) him in GT5.

I can probably murk him in Hot Pursuit, and the handling in that game is braindead easy compared to GT5 :lol:
 
Someone should have asked him where this "strip" is with a quarter and half mile marker. I wouldn't mind seeing this place and making a road trip. What exit do I take to get to imagination land?!
 
240mph in one mile doesn't work, acceleration would have to be insanely high :dunce: it took Bugatti a huge run up at the Nardo track (longer than a mile) to just get up to 417km/h(iirc)....
 
Someone should have asked him where this "strip" is with a quarter and half mile marker. I wouldn't mind seeing this place and making a road trip. What exit do I take to get to imagination land?!

Just keep following the yellow brick road and make a left at the rabbit hole, then go round the twist.
 
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240mph in one mile doesn't work, acceleration would have to be insanely high :dunce: it took Bugatti a huge run up at the Nardo track (longer than a mile) to just get up to 417km/h(iirc)....

Unless he strapped it to one of these :P
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AFAIK these are the only things that can go 0-240 in that short of time
 
If you're running one of those, you want to be getting it to 220mph before the eighth, never mind the quarter.
 
Hah! The other day I saw a Bugatti type 57! And I can't prove it!

But seriously, those dragsters don't have gears, right? Would it even help if they had a gear box strong enough?
 
But seriously, those dragsters don't have gears, right? Would it even help if they had a gear box strong enough?

Likely not. They produce enough torque (even through a clutch that slips for a very large portion of the run) to spin the tires as it is, and they generally aren't completely out of breath at the end of the 1/4 mile.
 
A Top Fueller will have melted its spark plugs by the 800' mark and be dieselling the last 200' (US NHRA sanctioned drag racing now takes place over 1000', rather than a quarter mile, after Scott Kalitta's crash in 2008).

Here, enjoy:


* One dragster's 500-inch Hemi makes more horsepower then the first 8 rows at Daytona.

* Under full throttle, a dragster engine consumes 1 1/2 gallons of nitro per second, the same rate of fuel consumption as a fully loaded 747 but with 4 times the energy volume.

* The supercharger takes more power to drive than a stock hemi makes.

* Even with nearly 3000 CFM of air being rammed in by the supercharger on overdrive, the fuel mixture is compressed into nearly-solid form before ignition. Cylinders run on the verge of hydraulic lock.

* Dual magnetos apply 44 amps to each spark plug. This is the output of an arc welder in each cylinder.

* At stoichiometric (exact) 1.7:1 air/fuel mixture (for nitro), the flame front of nitromethane measures 7050 degrees F.

* Nitromethane burns yellow. The spectacular white flame seen above the stacks at night is raw burning hydrogen, dissociated from atmospheric water vapor by the searing exhaust gases.

* Spark plug electrodes are totally consumed during a pass. After 1/2 way, the engine is dieseling from compression-plus the glow of exhaust valves at 1400 degrees F. The engine can only be shut down by cutting off its fuel flow.

* If spark momentarily fails early in the run, unburned nitro builds up in those cylinders and then explodes with a force that can blow cylinder heads off the block in pieces or blow the block in half.

* Dragsters twist the crank (torsionally) so far (20 degrees in the big end of the track) that sometimes cam lobes are ground offset from front to rear to re-phase the valve timing somewhere closer to synchronization with the pistons.

* To exceed 300mph in 4.5 seconds dragsters must accelerate at an average of over 4G's. But in reaching 200 mph well before 1/2 track, launch acceleration is closer to 8G's.

* If all the equipment is paid off, the crew worked for free, and for once NOTHING BLOWS UP, each run costs $1000.00 per second.

* Dragsters reach over 300 miles per hour before you have read this sentence.

Did you know …

… that the nitromethane-powered engines of NHRA Top Fuel dragsters and Funny Cars produce approximately 7,000 horsepower, about 37 times that of the average street car?

… that one cylinder of the eight cylinders of a Top Fuel dragster or a Funny Car produces 750 horsepower, equaling the entire horsepower output of a NASCAR engine?

… that the gasoline-powered engines of NHRA Pro Stock cars produce about 1,200 horsepower, about eight times that of the average street car?

… that an NHRA Top Fuel dragster accelerates from 0 to 100 mph in less than .8-second, almost 11 seconds quicker than it takes a production Porsche 911 Turbo to reach the same speed?

… that an NHRA Top Fuel dragster leaves the starting line with a force nearly five times that of gravity, the same force of the space shuttle when it leaves the launching pad at Cape Canaveral?

… that an NHRA Funny Car is slowed by a reverse force more than seven times that of gravity when both parachutes deploy simultaneously?

… that NHRA Top Fuel dragsters and Funny Cars consume between four and five gallons of fuel during a quarter-mile run, which is equivalent to between 16 and 20 gallons per mile?

… that NHRA Top Fuel dragsters and Funny Cars use between 10 and 12 gallons of fuel for a complete pass, including the burnout, backup to the starting line, and quarter-mile run?

… that NHRA Top Fuel dragsters and Funny Cars travel the length of more than four football fields in less than five seconds?

… that NHRA Top Fuel dragsters can exceed 280 mph in just 660 feet?

… that from a standing start, NHRA Top Fuel dragsters accelerate faster than a jumbo jet, a fighter jet, and a Formula One race car?

… that a fuel pump for an NHRA Top Fuel dragster and Funny Car delivers 65 gallons of fuel per minute, equivalent to eight bathroom showers running at the same time?

… that the fuel-line pressure for NHRA Top Fuel dragsters and Funny Cars is between 400 and 500 pounds, about 20 times greater than the pressure on passenger-car fuel pumps?

… that depending on size and angle, the large rear wing on an NHRA Top Fuel dragster develops between 4,000 and 8,000 pounds of downforce?

… that the 17-inch rear tires used on NHRA Top Fuel dragsters and Funny Cars wear out after four to six runs, or about two miles? Some brands of passenger-car tires are guaranteed for 80,000 miles.

… that it takes just 15/100ths of a second for all 7,000 horsepower of an NHRA Top Fuel dragster engine to reach the rear wheels?

… that it's desirable for an NHRA Top Fuel dragster to race with its front wheels inches off the ground for about the first 200 feet of the run? This ensures proper weight transfer to the rear wheels, a crucial part of a good launch and quick run.

… that the nitromethane used to power the engines of NHRA Top Fuel dragsters and Funny Cars costs about $30 per gallon?
 
Do they pull 8G or 5G off the line?

To exceed 300mph in 4.5 seconds dragsters must accelerate at an average of over 4G's. But in reaching 200 mph well before 1/2 track, launch acceleration is closer to 8G's.

that an NHRA Top Fuel dragster leaves the starting line with a force nearly five times that of gravity, the same force of the space shuttle when it leaves the launching pad at Cape Canaveral?
 
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The latter. Once the car is hooked up and back on all four wheels, acceleration increases - the off-the-line acceleration is ~5G, but they hit 8G before halfway and average 4 over the whole run.
 
If you're running one of those, you want to be getting it to 220mph before the eighth, never mind the quarter.

Actually, I did mean 320mph there... :dopey:

I remember seeing the Urs Erbacher set the European record a couple of years back. It was 314mph with a time of 4.78 seconds (backed up by something like a 4.71 seconds at 319mph) for the quarter mile I think. Something very similar to that anyway.
 
A few years ago, a guy I knew bought a Vauxhall Cavalier SRi. He was chatting bubbles one night about how fast it was, how much bhp it produced (he claimed over 200) etc. He then started talking about the ways he was going to mod it to make it do sub-10s 1/4 miles. I was mostly ignoring him until he mentioned "replacing the turbo with a bigger one".

I was quite surprised by this statement and asked him when he'd had a turbo fitted. he looked incredulous and said "it was turbocharged when I bought it, it's an SRi". Now, I'd owned an SRi a few years previously (though it was a MkII compared to his MkIII) and knew they were NA. So I pointed this out.

He was having none of this and claimed he could feel it lag when he accelerated hard, could hear the dump valve on the overun and so on. I dug my heels in and the "discussion" went on for some time.

Eventually, I said to him "if you're so sure, bring the car down the pub tomorrow night, we'll have a look under the bonnet and then see who is right"

So the next night he brought his pride and joy to the pub. We piled out into the carpark and he popped the bonnet open. He then proudly pointed to the large, round thing on top of the engine and said "there you go, a turbo!" and smiled a very smug smile, knowing he'd outfoxed me.

And I replied: "That thing there? One top of the engine?" putting my hand on to it for emphasis.

"Yup, that turbo there" he said.

I felt a little bit guilty, kinda like kicking a puppy, when I said to him "that's your airfilter, mate"
 
A few years ago, a guy I knew bought a Vauxhall Cavalier SRi. He was chatting bubbles one night about how fast it was, how much bhp it produced (he claimed over 200) etc. He then started talking about the ways he was going to mod it to make it do sub-10s 1/4 miles. I was mostly ignoring him until he mentioned "replacing the turbo with a bigger one".

I was quite surprised by this statement and asked him when he'd had a turbo fitted. he looked incredulous and said "it was turbocharged when I bought it, it's an SRi". Now, I'd owned an SRi a few years previously (though it was a MkII compared to his MkIII) and knew they were NA. So I pointed this out.

He was having none of this and claimed he could feel it lag when he accelerated hard, could hear the dump valve on the overun and so on. I dug my heels in and the "discussion" went on for some time.

Eventually, I said to him "if you're so sure, bring the car down the pub tomorrow night, we'll have a look under the bonnet and then see who is right"

So the next night he brought his pride and joy to the pub. We piled out into the carpark and he popped the bonnet open. He then proudly pointed to the large, round thing on top of the engine and said "there you go, a turbo!" and smiled a very smug smile, knowing he'd outfoxed me.

And I replied: "That thing there? One top of the engine?" putting my hand on to it for emphasis.

"Yup, that turbo there" he said.

I felt a little bit guilty, kinda like kicking a puppy, when I said to him "that's your airfilter, mate"

:lol: Ouch, his pride was probably gone after that.
 
:lol:
So how long did the awkward silence last?

Not as long as, a couple of years later, when he'd been driving an Astra SRi for a bit. We were (yet again) moaning about the cost of car insurance in the pub. He mentioned that his was over £900 that year. I said "really?" (taking into acount he's the same age as me, has never had a claim and is in one of those "low risk" jobs), to which he rplied "yeah, premium car and all that"

Without thinking, I said "Oh? Did you sell the Astra, then?"

He didn't speak to me for about 3 months after that one.
 
A kid at my school once claimed his dad had an R8 spyder. Me and my friend asked him for proof, and the next day he showed us a picture of an R8 with his phone. There were 2 oddities:

1: The R8 shown was clearly a coupe, not a spyder like he said it was. This was because 'his dad thought it was a spyder when he bought it.'

2: The R8 shown had a german number plate. It was because his 'dad picked it up from the Audi factory in Germany.' Of course...

To top it all off, I saw the same picture on a car wallpapers website...
 
Not as long as, a couple of years later, when he'd been driving an Astra SRi for a bit. We were (yet again) moaning about the cost of car insurance in the pub. He mentioned that his was over £900 that year. I said "really?" (taking into acount he's the same age as me, has never had a claim and is in one of those "low risk" jobs), to which he replied "yeah, premium car and all that"

Without thinking, I said "Oh? Did you sell the Astra, then?"

He didn't speak to me for about 3 months after that one.

Oh, you've just made me laugh my head off! :lol:
 

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