PAL: Daytona road course 650pp: xx.00 - 15 - 30 - 45

[Solar_teamNur]

Oh my god I feel so much jealousy around here... I believe (without a video proof) Thanos did a 44.8 hes also a friend of mine and very class driver. He knows about battling right and he makes actions that makes a fight though. So hes very good and sometimes you got to think: this is racing and YES you touch eachother and so on (ive been race driver in real life I know it). Lot of guys here do forget what racing is. I know a few guys can drive 1:44.xxx and NOT by cheating, theyre just class drivers.

Stop wining and go train to finally reach your 44.xxx LOL, and finally have some fights on the limits of the cars/tracks. Owh and about ego: you got to have that to become a feared driver if not well then youll never reach the top

PS: Wow Horde never knew you drove with pad, then youre damn fast with it!

 

[_rm_]

Thats why at IFTC do 50s and 60s in the ranking and online i go with any driver in that top 10. By the way i use a pad

In response to the quote: http://db.gtrp.de/racedb/showdriver.php?driver=horde_r35_teamNur

I see your english is very good, but i think you miss a word in your vocabulary: http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/humble

Ps- Don´t get me wrong mate, it´s just an advice.

 

[The Outlaw]

Oh my god I feel so much jealousy around here... I believe (without a video proof) Thanos did a 44.8 hes also a friend of mine and very class driver. He knows about battling right and he makes actions that makes a fight though. So hes very good and sometimes you got to think: this is racing and YES you touch eachother and so on (ive been race driver in real life I know it). Lot of guys here do forget what racing is. I know a few guys can drive 1:44.xxx and NOT by cheating, theyre just class drivers.

Stop wining and go train to finally reach your 44.xxx LOL, and finally have some fights on the limits of the cars/tracks. Owh and about ego: you got to have that to become a feared driver if not well then youll never reach the top

PS: Wow Horde never knew you drove with pad, then youre damn fast with it!

That's great! 👍 I'll believe it when I see it, until then a claimed 44.8 coming from Thanos of all people is laughable in my book Sorry to say.

"Owh and about ego: you got to have that to become a feared driver if not well then youll never reach the top"

The only reason I have the slightest fear of Thanos is because half the time he blatantly runs me off the road. How can you respectfully make it to the top with such actions? His need to win at all cost shows his insecurities if anything. You've been lucky enough to see Thanos' good racing etiquette, I can't say I've experienced the same ...likely because I don't wear a group tag on my PSN ID (ie. GTP, GTRP, etc.) So each to their own 👍

In response to the quote: http://db.gtrp.de/racedb/showdriver.php?driver=horde_r35_teamNur

I see your english is very good, but i think you miss a word in your vocabulary: http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/humble

Ps- Don´t get me wrong mate, it´s just an advice.

Good suggestion mate This further validates why I don't believe anything coming from these guys. Being humble is a part of ones personality, and is shown by their actions and words. Regardless of what language you speak or what country you are from, being humble or having an ego is part of their true personality.

 

[Fuzzy]

Here's my say on Thanos. He is fast, fair and a clean driver. I've raced him many times and had no problem with him whatsoever. And I really believe that he is capable of getting 1.44.xxx at Daytona Road. 👍

 

[The Outlaw]

At this point I will cease to further rebuttal. There is nothing to argue, except for claimed times from questionable drivers. I will see how fast Thanos is when my PAL disc arrives in the mail. I have a feeling my intuition will serve me correctly and he won't magically be 1.5-2 seconds a lap faster than myself though.

 

[GTP_rpm]

Ok, all cleared up nicely here.

I'll put it in pretty bold writing so it makes it stand out.

Thanos has just PSN'd me, with 3 messages, to explain the situation.

He claims,

- he tackles the chicane fairly
- the 1.44.xxx was infact, with slipstream
- his best non-slipstream lap is a 1.45.7xx

That should clear things up.

He's clearly got a bit of a hot-head on his shoulders. Either young, or is sensitive about the size of his manhood...possibly both. He'll mature I'm sure and give a more consistent, clean and polished effort to online racing.

He'll need to though, to get any competition when/if private rooms come about

P.s. @ Solur_teamNur. You might be surprised to find out just how many quick drivers use a pad. *Cough

 

[The Outlaw]

Ok, all cleared up nicely here.

I'll put it in pretty bold writing so it makes it stand out.

Thanos has just PSN'd me, with 3 messages, to explain the situation.

He claims,

- he tackles the chicane fairly
- the 1.44.xxx was infact, with slipstream
- his best non-slipstream lap is a 1.45.7xx

That should clear things up.

He's clearly got a bit of a hot-head on his shoulders. Either young, or is sensitive about the size of his manhood...possibly both. He'll mature I'm sure and give a more consistent, clean and polished effort to online racing.

He'll need to though, to get any competition when/if private rooms come about

P.s. @ Solur_teamNur. You might be surprised to find out just how many quick drivers use a pad. *Cough

Thank you for clearing that up RPM. 👍

I believe a couple of individuals owe me an apology, thanks to their faulty/exaggerated information lol. I'm not sure if Horde was purposely exaggerating Thanos time or what, but he clearly told us it was done without slip streaming, and defended it as if it were well known fact amonst all of his buddies.

Horde & Solur_teamNur: Please get your facts straight before trying to prove a point next time.

 

[GTP_rpm]

Yep.

Funnily enough, last race I had I was in with all the big-guns. Solur, nissman, thanos and poor 'thanny' (as he likes to be called...albeit un-beknowingly by him at the moment) ran 650pp and drove a nice, clean race.

He is now saying I am ''very slow'' because my proveable best clean lap, is a second slower than his non-proveable best lap.

Thanny said his T2 best sector time was a 53.7xx. Now, my best was a 53.8xx and can often do below 54's on T2...So I'm loosing a second from there, to the finish line.

Hmm.

 

[nissman]

I got to agree here with RPM,I had a few close battles with Thanos and I'm not even close to low 45' my best no slipstream lap was 46.4
But with a perfect lap I could see him do a high 45' but probably no more.
And guys it's not Solur it's Solar:tup:

 

[The Outlaw]

Yep.

Funnily enough, last race I had I was in with all the big-guns. Solur, nissman, thanos and poor 'thanny' (as he likes to be called...albeit un-beknowingly by him at the moment) ran 650pp and drove a nice, clean race.

He is now saying I am ''very slow'' because my proveable best clean lap, is a second slower than his non-proveable best lap.

Thanny said his T2 best sector time was a 53.7xx. Now, my best was a 53.8xx and can often do below 54's on T2...So I'm loosing a second from there, to the finish line.

Hmm.

Well IMO it's pretty doubhtful he ran 1:45.7xx if his best T2 sector is only a 53.7xx...at least without cutting the **** out of the bus stop lol. I mean my best T2 sector if I recall correctly was probably only a 53.5xx and that was only good for a 1:46.332 with a pretty close to perfect run through the chicane. So it is a bit difficult to swallow, but way more believable than claiming he ran a 1:44.8xx lmao

 

[Solar_teamNur]

Of course his lap was with slipstream, that doesnt suddenly make it easier we all have slipsream a lot but havent driven 44.xxx yet. And calling Thanos young or having problems with his size of manhood how ridiculous. So this concerns some of those who are till whining especially _rm_: look for this word `childish` because thats what you are by discussing this (actually Im doing the same boohoo) and saying stupid things about vocabulary well I`ll stop now... Lets just leave it and respect everyone...

C y`all on the track im outta here

 

[GTP_rpm]

@ timeattack07gt - Yeah.

He had said in the messages, that yours and my ego's were too large to accept he was faster.

I tried to explain, for me anyway, I can accept he was/is faster. But not by 2seconds lol. I don't think he totally understands the situation because of the language barrier.

But either way, in my opinion he's definately got a different tune to us. His top speed to mine is definately quicker and my accel is faster (if I get it right). Above all though, he is definately quick.

If he carries on driving the way he is though, he can undo what he has done.

It's upto him!

 

[Horde_R35]

Oh my god I feel so much jealousy around here... I believe (without a video proof) Thanos did a 44.8 hes also a friend of mine and very class driver. He knows about battling right and he makes actions that makes a fight though. So hes very good and sometimes you got to think: this is racing and YES you touch eachother and so on (ive been race driver in real life I know it). Lot of guys here do forget what racing is. I know a few guys can drive 1:44.xxx and NOT by cheating, theyre just class drivers.

Stop wining and go train to finally reach your 44.xxx LOL, and finally have some fights on the limits of the cars/tracks. Owh and about ego: you got to have that to become a feared driver if not well then youll never reach the top

PS: Wow Horde never knew you drove with pad, then youre damn fast with it!

Thanks bro you said it lol

 

[The Outlaw]

Of course his lap was with slipstream, that doesnt suddenly make it easier we all have slipsream a lot but havent driven 44.xxx yet. And calling Thanos young or having problems with his size of manhood how ridiculous. So this concerns some of those who are till whining especially _rm_: look for this word `childish` because thats what you are by discussing this (actually Im doing the same boohoo) and saying stupid things about vocabulary well I`ll stop now... Lets just leave it and respect everyone...

C y`all on the track im outta here

Dude, you guys are ridiculous. If you had followed the argument from the get go you would have realized that Horde CLEARLY claimed that Thanos did the 44.8xx lap time with no draft!!! You even illuded to the fact that he did so in free air. That's what the argument was about if you were paying attention rather than trying to overly defend the truthfulness of all of your buddies involved. Seriously...

Thanks bro you said it lol

Good try though

 

[GTP_rpm]

The 1:44.8 of Thanos is of course done with a little bit of cutting. imo as long you stay with 2 wheels on the curbs its allright... Dont know how much he cutted but a 1:44.8 is brilliant whatsoever. Especially if he did it without slipstream. I managed to drive 1:45.2 by using slipstream of a ghost in my last lap and laststraight otherwise it was just a .5 or .6

That was your original post Solar.

You then say;

Of course his lap was with slipstream, that doesnt suddenly make it easier we all have slipsream a lot but havent driven 44.xxx yet. And calling Thanos young or having problems with his size of manhood how ridiculous. So this concerns some of those who are till whining especially _rm_: look for this word `childish` because thats what you are by discussing this (actually Im doing the same boohoo) and saying stupid things about vocabulary well I`ll stop now... Lets just leave it and respect everyone...

C y`all on the track im outta here

Make your mind up.

Research Thanos on the forum and when he was a member of the forum he kicked up quite a bit of a fuss lol.

I'll end, on saying he's doing the right thing at the moment, but in my eyes (and lots of GTP) he does have a long way to go to rebuild what he has done for his reputation. And that was before most of you guys in this topic were consistent membes.

Remember that please, before you accuse us of being unfair.

 

[UnknownSam]

Actually GT-R drivers are becoming annoying in their chase for the lap times .
I'm using Ferrari 599 and almost always somebody hungry for win punts me. While braking or while exiting a corner .

And this people don't wait for you. They are chasing other GT-Rs and ruin all your race. For example I was chasing a guy driving a corvette when GT-R punted me out of the road and continued his run. My battle with this guy was totally ruined :-(.

I understand that GT-R is more stable ect. and I'm kinda slow in Ferrari ( best lap somewhere~1.50.xxx ) but still you need to overtake me cleanly ( for somebody it seems a hard task because they are relying just on the 4WD and their driving lines aren't accurate ) even if your fellow driver has already overtaken me.

Otherwise I'm becoming rough on the road. And will be complaining here about every dirty driver from this forum ( today a GTP tagged drivers punted me twice ).

P.S. But there is exeptions! Despite punting me ( I think he had no choice ) GTP_Varoncov ( sorry if I wrote wrongly ) later overtook me cleanly.

 

[Solar_teamNur]

By the time I wrote the other post I was not sure (tho I couldnt believe it wasnt with slipstream either!) then he told me that and I realized that I wasnt thinking straight if I drive 1:45.2 with slipstream he can impossibly drive without a 1:44.8... Sorry but I understand your point. Lets just get over it... Owh and I only judge people on the track not how they act on a forum, I raced Thanos once, one of the best/hard races ever and so he became a friend.

 

[GTP_rpm]

Actually GT-R drivers are becoming annoying in their chase for the lap times .
I'm using Ferrari 599 and almost always somebody hungry for win punts me. While braking or while exiting a corner .

And this people don't wait for you. They are chasing other GT-Rs and ruin all your race. For example I was chasing a guy driving a corvette when GT-R punted me out of the road and continued his run. My battle with this guy was totally ruined :-(.

I understand that GT-R is more stable ect. and I'm kinda slow in Ferrari ( best lap somewhere~1.50.xxx ) but still you need to overtake me cleanly ( for somebody it seems a hard task because they are relying just on the 4WD and their driving lines aren't accurate ) even if your fellow driver has already overtaken me.

Otherwise I'm becoming rough on the road. And will be complaining here about every dirty driver from this forum ( today a GTP tagged drivers punted me twice ).

P.S. But there is exeptions! Despite punting me ( I think he had no choice ) GTP_Varoncov ( sorry if I wrote wrongly ) later overtook me cleanly.

That's all well and nice, but the quick GTR drivers tend to not change braking lines...let alone more than once.

Some non-GTR drivers arn't as consistent as us lot. We're braking to the left at our limits, then a Ferrari wanders into our braking path. They're going to get hit...They aslo squirm for traction and often over-steer into our paths. It's not always the GTR driver being unfair.

@ Solar, nice of you to clear your part up too 👍

Like said, game on - lots of quick GTR's 👍

 

[The Outlaw]

By the time I wrote the other post I was not sure (tho I couldnt believe it wasnt with slipstream either!) then he told me that and I realized that I wasnt thinking straight if I drive 1:45.2 with slipstream he can impossibly drive without a 1:44.8... Sorry but I understand your point. Lets just get over it... Owh and I only judge people on the track not how they act on a forum, I raced Thanos once, one of the best/hard races ever and so he became a friend.

Gotcha, next time I suggest you comprehend the entire argument before claiming that others are just jealous, or simply not good enough, etc. It's rather irritating...

Anyways...hope to see you on the track in the future for some hard fought battles

 

[UnknownSam]

That's all well and nice, but the quick GTR drivers tend to not change braking lines...let alone more than once.

Some non-GTR drivers arn't as consistent as us lot. We're braking to the left at our limits, then a Ferrari wanders into our braking path. They're going to get hit...They aslo squirm for traction and often over-steer into our paths. It's not always the GTR driver being unfair.

@ Solar, nice of you to clear your part up too 👍

Like said, game on - lots of quick GTR's 👍

No, no, no! You are wrong from the beginning. GT-R is faster on accelerating and his breaking path is shorter then 599's. So how the **** I can "wanders into our braking path"?

The picture is totally different.

Some good drivers just wait for the moment and if I'm driving cleanly their only chance to overtake me is after slow turns ( and it's so challenging trying to pull away or to be on the tail in this situations ).
The bad one's usually "wanders into MY braking path" or punts me out of the track while in heavy breaking or accelerting. Is it so hard to realise that my ferrari need more room and that you need to brake earlier to avoid "the crash"?

All I can do - to make sure that I left enough space for "hungry GT-R" to overtake me - otherwise I'll be punted. It's sad.

I'm not blaming all of you but it's really surprising being constatnly punted by "tagged" drivers.

 

[GTP_rpm]

I'm saying sometimes, when I am coming into the braking zone, I pick the left side of the track. The car infront, is braking on the right side of the track. I am quicker on the brakes, but they wander to the left side of the track, giving me two choices.

1 - Go onto the grass, spin and lose positions
2 - Hit them

The same as if a faster accelerating car is about to pass you.

Do you wander infront of them too?

I'm not saying that you do, but I have hit slower cars for my reasons said above and I feel in a racing environment, this is not more than 50% my fault.

 

[UnknownSam]

In your example you should stay behind if you can not overtake cleanly. The fact that your car is good at braking doesn't give you rights to punt somebody if he needs longer braking path.
Or ( a risky one option ) you should be in front of other car by the time when it start turning. If you aren't in front - you should give him space.

Today I've managed to overtake somebody on GT-R in such a way - kudos to this guy. Later I give him space after slow turn because he was defently faster. But then another GT-R rushed in ( guiding by what you said above ) and I found my self in a grass.

You think it was okay?

P.S. "hitting slower cars for reasons". Hum ?
I'm feeling guilty if I hit somebody. And usually I wait for them and don't overtake( if I can ) for some time.

 

[GTP_rpm]

If in racing, you EVER change your braking path - you run the risk of cutting someone short of theirs, irrespective of how good theirs or your brakes are.

 

[UnknownSam]

If in racing, you EVER change your braking path - you run the risk of cutting someone short of theirs, irrespective of how good theirs or your brakes are.

But in racing and on general roads you have to keep distance !
And usually guilty person is the one from behind .

It is usually obvious that GT-R driver don't want to "spend time" to overtake non GT-R car. And that is really sad.

 

[GTP_joeninety]

Are people interested in organising a GTR only race time to solve the problem of other slower cars being in the wrong place at the wrong.....?

 

[GTP_rpm]

If approaching a roundabout, it turns into two lanes.

The car infront of you, heads to the left lane approaching the roundabout and then you carry more speed into the right hand lane. If you begin braking at the sametime and they then drift into the righthand lane and it's too late for you to avoid them, what do you do?

Thankfully, on the roads we have indicators. If the person infront was indicating left and drifted whilst braking into the path of you, crossing lanes, they'd be at fault.

On the circuit, without indidicators we only have car body language to go by - especially on GT5p. If you're braking in a straight line and someone hits you - it's definately their fault. But if you drift into their braking line, it's no different than turning in on someone, or blocking when a faster car is trying to overtake.

Not saying that a hungry GTR hasn't been unfair, but I'm just trying to defend myself as a GTR driver, that when a slower driver/car blocks your braking line it's going to end in tears. Same as if they defend you coming past them on a straight!

@ Joeninety. I considered this, but I personally think it's always gone the other way and the lesser cars have made their own events?

 

[Horde_R35]

Sorry for the bump RPM. i was doing some serious late braking. i wait but...

 

[UnknownSam]

In your example I'm a little confused. What turn do we have? Left or right? But it seems that both of them end up in a grass and they will be both "guilty".

So you are trying to say that if I'm driving Ferrari 599 I need to stay out of GT-R's way?
Hell no! I only let them pass by sleapstreaming on or exiting out of a corner
(4WD > RWD) if they have enogh speed and space. Or on breaking if the driver will manage to be in front of me without punting.

 

[GTP_rpm]

If you see someone catching you, then as you hit the brakes they dart left. Don't then begin to move left also...approaching a right hand turn!

That's all I'm trying to say.

(not you personally)

@ Horde, that's ok, I was just trying to keep up with the fast guys

 

[UnknownSam]

I'm not doing such things:-).
But in order to pass that car needs to be almost in front of my car.
In other case it's a classic punting.