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Of the 50+ million people that are registered it seems to be.
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Of the 50+ million people that are registered it seems to be.
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It is pretty small when you do the math. It would be 0.00048582995951417004048582995951417e-4, or in simple terms, ~4.86 millionth of 24.7 million accounts(just the ones that had some information stolen) had their credit card information stolen. But Sony has 90 million accounts in total. So 1.3333333333333333333333333333333e-4, or ~1.34 millionth of 90 million accounts had their credit card information stolen. Of course stolen credit cards are not something to joke about. Best thing consumers can do is to cancel their card back when that event happened and get a new one from the credit card company. Sadly at the time personal information was not encrypted but the credit card numbers were.
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Facs:
1: There were 77 million online accounts for ps3 at the time of the hack, and 20 million SOE accounts compromised.
2: No, free stuff doesn't make up for the loss of information.
3: PS3 hardware is more powerfull, but the architecture of the Cell processer makes it harder to code games, and this with deals from microsoft makes alot of ports from games built on the xbox, which is easier to code. This inevitably leads to badly ported games such as Black Ops at release, and the afforementioned GTA IV.
4: 1st party developed games take good advantage of what the PS3 should be, just like the xbox developers take what they can out of the xbox.
5: The hack was last year get over it.
6: This is not a fanboy v fanboy thread, despite all the off topic posts on the matter. If you want to discuss that, go find one of the many other threads. This thread is about the future playstation, if you are an xbox fanboy, there is also a thread for the future xbox. Go there!
1: There were 77 million online accounts for ps3 at the time of the hack, and 20 million SOE accounts compromised.
2: No, free stuff doesn't make up for the loss of information.
3: PS3 hardware is more powerfull, but the architecture of the Cell processer makes it harder to code games, and this with deals from microsoft makes alot of ports from games built on the xbox, which is easier to code. This inevitably leads to badly ported games such as Black Ops at release, and the afforementioned GTA IV.
4: 1st party developed games take good advantage of what the PS3 should be, just like the xbox developers take what they can out of the xbox.
5: The hack was last year get over it.
6: This is not a fanboy v fanboy thread, despite all the off topic posts on the matter. If you want to discuss that, go find one of the many other threads. This thread is about the future playstation, if you are an xbox fanboy, there is also a thread for the future xbox. Go there!
II-zOoLoGy-II
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^Lol.
I should have known not to question the superiority of the PS3.
I mean the controllers and exclusives are better. The graphics on identical games are better on PS3. The PSN is also NEVER down. Those are just simple facts....
I apologize for my doubt.
One thing they might want to prioritize prior to the launch of the next PS.... The infrastructure of the PSN.
"PlayStation Network is down for unscheduled maintenance."
I should have known not to question the superiority of the PS3.
I mean the controllers and exclusives are better. The graphics on identical games are better on PS3. The PSN is also NEVER down. Those are just simple facts....
I apologize for my doubt.
One thing they might want to prioritize prior to the launch of the next PS.... The infrastructure of the PSN.
"PlayStation Network is down for unscheduled maintenance."
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Is there anything that's more pathetic and pointless than Playstation vs. Xbox fights? I like Sony more simply because Playstation was my first console and I've personally liked their exclusives more than Xbox's (MGS and GT series in particular). Does that give me the right to say that Sony is better than Microsoft though? NO! So cut it off, please.
II-zOoLoGy-II
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No one is fighting.
But, please continue interjecting as if you are part of the moderation staff.
Heaven forbid the PS/next generation console thread includes anything other than the name of Sony.
Defend it as if your life depended on it.
Nintendo is just there to make Microsoft and Sony look good lol.
I haven't heard what the price point on the U is going to be. The console design looked nice and definitely a step away from what they have previously released.
I am hoping that the "smart glass" tech that was introduced at E3 brings similar functionality to the 360 (in regards to the U controller and smartphone/tablet support); or I should say, the next XBOX. I entirely doubt the capability of the 360 to run any type of realtime high quality information to a tablet etc. and maintain playable frame rates.
However, I would like to see what Sony offers to compete with this. Microsoft answered quickly. My guess is Sony will be late with laughable performance. Move and WonderBook anyone?
But, please continue interjecting as if you are part of the moderation staff.
Heaven forbid the PS/next generation console thread includes anything other than the name of Sony.
Defend it as if your life depended on it.
LuminisAnyways, I'm still thrilled to see who's going to launch their console first. Or rather, second after Nintendo, if you want to count the Wii U as a next gen console
Nintendo is just there to make Microsoft and Sony look good lol.
I haven't heard what the price point on the U is going to be. The console design looked nice and definitely a step away from what they have previously released.
I am hoping that the "smart glass" tech that was introduced at E3 brings similar functionality to the 360 (in regards to the U controller and smartphone/tablet support); or I should say, the next XBOX. I entirely doubt the capability of the 360 to run any type of realtime high quality information to a tablet etc. and maintain playable frame rates.
However, I would like to see what Sony offers to compete with this. Microsoft answered quickly. My guess is Sony will be late with laughable performance. Move and WonderBook anyone?
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Strittan
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Excuse me?
Read my post again, will ya? I'm AGAINST those who protect it as if their life depended on it.
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Arguing about many things to do with each console is pointless but I don't get this whole Xbox Live is better online argument, I have tried both and as far as I can see a mutliplayer game starts, happens and then ends pretty much the same whatever your on!
I have never had any problem with PSN other than the major outage which I got free games for. I find it hilarious the MS charges for something which its competitors offer for free and would never pay to play online in this day and age.
Xbox owners always say 'oh its better', then when you ask them why they say 'oh its more stable'. That is a total non answer IMO, means nothing. It's just mass delusion carried over from the original service on the first Xbox when it was easier to pretend online console gaming was a chargeable entity.
Does having Live speed up your internet connection? No, Does MS use dedicated servers? No (most 3rd party games use their own servers which are routing the PSN players through exactly the same thing!) or they are using P2P hosting. So what exactly are you paying for!?
It's not like the PSN service is totally unusable otherwise it wouldn't be fit for purpose. It's never going to happen but MS should follow Sony's lead and make online free because its a deal breaker for many people including myself.
I have never had any problem with PSN other than the major outage which I got free games for. I find it hilarious the MS charges for something which its competitors offer for free and would never pay to play online in this day and age.
Xbox owners always say 'oh its better', then when you ask them why they say 'oh its more stable'. That is a total non answer IMO, means nothing. It's just mass delusion carried over from the original service on the first Xbox when it was easier to pretend online console gaming was a chargeable entity.
Does having Live speed up your internet connection? No, Does MS use dedicated servers? No (most 3rd party games use their own servers which are routing the PSN players through exactly the same thing!) or they are using P2P hosting. So what exactly are you paying for!?
It's not like the PSN service is totally unusable otherwise it wouldn't be fit for purpose. It's never going to happen but MS should follow Sony's lead and make online free because its a deal breaker for many people including myself.
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'Performance'.... again what exactly does that mean?
In 6 years of owning my PS3 and being on a couple of times a week I have seen maybe 3 maintenance messages come up when I've logged in. Even if there was maintenance every week or even every late night I wouldn't care because its free. Its not like paying for XBL means no maintenance ever, I would actually worry if they didn't give it a health check regularly.
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Strittan
Apologies then.
Lost in translation on my part.
Caz
Ah, I forgot they had mentioned that. I personally wouldn't by a Vita for it. I think Microsoft using smartphones and tablets for this is a little bit smarter considering practically everyone owns one, the other, or both.
@Robin
It's mainly the amount of third party "support" you get with LIVE. Videos on upcoming titles, tons of media apps, etc etc.
And from my personal experience LIVE is down a considerable amount less than PSN for maintenance.
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Well, I can't see MS cooperating with, say, Apple, but supporting Android would be a clever decision, I would assume. Given how many people I know who're owning Android smartphones, it'd be a rather decent selling point if the next Xbox was working with these.
As far as the Vita is concerned... Well, it seems a bit like Sony's trying to get the Vita's sales up. In my opinion, focusing on selling more PS4s seems a bit more important, but we'll have to wait and see how that pans out. If they're offering a cheap-ish PS4 + Vita bundle, it could potentially sell well. Sony would at least make money off of the Vita as opposed to MS and their usage of smartphones. But I'm not sure whether I like MS and Sony mimicing Nintendo with what seems like tacked-on ideas...
Regarding the whole XBL vs. PSN debate... Well, I have yet to experience XBL being down once. I also haven't read anything about an incident that would rival the scale of the PSN outage/hacking incident yet. Not saying that XBL is completely safe, before someone decides to go for my throat over implying such a thing, I'm just saying that I haven't heard of anything of a similar magnitude.
As far as the Vita is concerned... Well, it seems a bit like Sony's trying to get the Vita's sales up. In my opinion, focusing on selling more PS4s seems a bit more important, but we'll have to wait and see how that pans out. If they're offering a cheap-ish PS4 + Vita bundle, it could potentially sell well. Sony would at least make money off of the Vita as opposed to MS and their usage of smartphones. But I'm not sure whether I like MS and Sony mimicing Nintendo with what seems like tacked-on ideas...
Regarding the whole XBL vs. PSN debate... Well, I have yet to experience XBL being down once. I also haven't read anything about an incident that would rival the scale of the PSN outage/hacking incident yet. Not saying that XBL is completely safe, before someone decides to go for my throat over implying such a thing, I'm just saying that I haven't heard of anything of a similar magnitude.
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Guess I'm not up to date
I don't think MS or Sony will go with too much power, if prices are too high (even if they subsidize the consoles) compared to the wii-u and same thing happens twice = less powerful console sells the most, it'll establish the precedent of no need of graphical power and go for the "gimmicks" / add-ons or "new experiences" like wii-waggle-waggle-controller, mii-ove-too-controller, kinect-not-good-for-gaming-camera and ipad-like-controller to get more sales
MS is rumored to go for 4-to-8GB or DDR3 RAM, but also they'll want kinect2 to be in every bundle and the current version will not do the difference, since it's a stripped down version of the original prototype in order to lower the manufacturing costs, so they'll improve the current camera and that will affect the budget for other components of the new console
Sony is rumored to go with 2GB of DDR5 RAM, nothing is known about the controller, DualShock 4? AMD APU with a powerful GPU in the SOC or AMD 4 Cores CPU and poweful AMD GPU
With a price of $399 or less, it's going to be OK, more than that in this economy and...
MS is rumored to go for 4-to-8GB or DDR3 RAM, but also they'll want kinect2 to be in every bundle and the current version will not do the difference, since it's a stripped down version of the original prototype in order to lower the manufacturing costs, so they'll improve the current camera and that will affect the budget for other components of the new console
Sony is rumored to go with 2GB of DDR5 RAM, nothing is known about the controller, DualShock 4? AMD APU with a powerful GPU in the SOC or AMD 4 Cores CPU and poweful AMD GPU
With a price of $399 or less, it's going to be OK, more than that in this economy and...
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That's the reason why I said that. DDR4 won't exist until 2013/2014 and DDR5 won't come out for system memory for a long time.
Memory for graphics cards are a bit different. They are often confused with the terms. DDR5 is actually GDDR5. GDDR5 is a video RAM and not a system RAM. There are graphic cards that use ram like DDR3 but those are quite slow compared to the mid-end cards which come with GDDR5.
Memory for graphics cards are a bit different. They are often confused with the terms. DDR5 is actually GDDR5. GDDR5 is a video RAM and not a system RAM. There are graphic cards that use ram like DDR3 but those are quite slow compared to the mid-end cards which come with GDDR5.
II-zOoLoGy-II
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DDR4 does already exist and memory manufacturers have sent out test sticks to MoBo companies. Where some of you get your information from is beyond me.
Use Google.
http://techblog.everplexmedia.com/post/14688187223/ddr4-ram-the-rumors-and-truths
http://www.neowin.net/news/ddr4-ram-will-reach-computers-next-year
http://www.engadget.com/2012/05/08/micron-teases-working-ddr4-ram-module/
GDDR operates at a higher clock frequency than DDR requiring higher voltage, a specific controller, and entirely different architecture.
http://solidlystated.com/hardware/difference-between-gddr-and-ddr/
Yup. Check out the latest update for the iOS app.
http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-19512_...ampaign=Feed:+cnet/YIbS+(CNET+News+-+Pulse+2)
Use Google.
http://techblog.everplexmedia.com/post/14688187223/ddr4-ram-the-rumors-and-truths
http://www.neowin.net/news/ddr4-ram-will-reach-computers-next-year
http://www.engadget.com/2012/05/08/micron-teases-working-ddr4-ram-module/
GDDR operates at a higher clock frequency than DDR requiring higher voltage, a specific controller, and entirely different architecture.
http://solidlystated.com/hardware/difference-between-gddr-and-ddr/
LuminisGuess I'm not up to date
Yup. Check out the latest update for the iOS app.
http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-19512_...ampaign=Feed:+cnet/YIbS+(CNET+News+-+Pulse+2)
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