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The battery life on the DS4 is poor also. I wish you could turn off/down the light on the front because I bet that would save loads of battery power đź‘Ť

I'm pretty sure it will be a low power LED that wouldn't use that much power anyway. But I do agree battery life is a lot less than I get from my DS3. I did have a little trouble with my first DS3 with rubber on the left stick but that was after 2000+ hours of battlefield and GT5. The rubber didn't wear off but simply came loose bit of superglue worked fine till I got a replacement. DS4 is still fine tho and I got the Killzone mega bundle that came with 2 controllers so I got a spare ready just in case anything happens.


EDIT: did a very small amount of searching and it seems the LEDs do indeed use a lot of power so I stand corrected.
 
Don't Starve is so much better than I anticipated. First game I died the first night venturing too far from the fire. Second game I made it like 3 days. My record so far is 21 days and I died during the winter after some monster dogs attacked me. It's taking me a while but I'm figuring out what are priorities for gathering and what need to be built as soon as possible. Give it a shot if you have PS Plus.

I got to 75 days (survived 2 winters and other unspeakable horrors). Died when 5 hell hounds attacked me all at once. The entrance to my camp had 15 tooth traps to weaken them but I was too far away when they came. The real dumb part is how they set the forest I was in on fire when they attacked. My cause of death is fire, so I find that stupid.
 
Don't Starve is so much better than I anticipated. First game I died the first night venturing too far from the fire. Second game I made it like 3 days. My record so far is 21 days and I died during the winter after some monster dogs attacked me. It's taking me a while but I'm figuring out what are priorities for gathering and what need to be built as soon as possible. Give it a shot if you have PS Plus.

Gonna try tomorrow.... Im still waiting for my new Controller :(
 
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I got to 75 days (survived 2 winters and other unspeakable horrors). Died when 5 hell hounds attacked me all at once. The entrance to my camp had 15 tooth traps to weaken them but I was too far away when they came. The real dumb part is how they set the forest I was in on fire when they attacked. My cause of death is fire, so I find that stupid.
It has taken me a while to figure things out but I'm getting there. For instance, I didn't realize that I could dig up plants and plant them by my base or plant pine cones until late last night. I also just recently figured out how to get charcoal, thinking it was some mythical black stone that I had never seen when looking at the menus. I wish you could scroll over each picture and get some sort of description of what it is. I may not be good yet but I am becoming much more efficient at gathering what needs to be gathered and building the essentials for survival. I also figured how to use the environment and inhabitants around me to help against attacks after being killed by four hounds on day 21. I'm at day 10 right now, hopefully I can set an new personal record tonight.

@MAidioPT Did Sony make you send in you original controller or were you allowed to keep it?
 
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Doesn't sound suprising that there are quality issues with the controllers and consoles. The quality has been tailing off with each generation for a while now as a result of cutting costs.
 
Not having any problems with my controller's or PS4. I have played through Knack- Killzone and still playing AC4 with about a 100 hrs!
 
Very true. :(
Do you have a PS4? I thought you posted once that you had neither console! And just because there are a few people here that are having problems, doesn't mean the console or controller are cheaply made!


PS. This reply also goes to Robin!
 
Do you have a PS4? I thought you posted once that you had neither console! And just because there are a few people here that are having problems, doesn't mean the console or controller are cheaply made!


PS. This reply also goes to Robin!
No I still have not decided between PS4 or X1. Especially since neither machine has 3d right now. Which boggles my mind. I was just agreeing that new consoles are nowhere near as reliable as the older machines. They truly seem to be getting less and less reliable each generation. I have been through a couple PS3's and many 360's. Yet my original Genesis, Atari, PS2, and Nintendo all still work. Never had a single problem ever with my original xbox. No joke not 1 single problem ever with that system. New consoles are just not as reliable as the older ones and I get more and more nervous about buying a console this gen. I understand there less moving parts, yada yada. However, the point is still valid. Older consoles were a lot more reliable.....it seems.
 
The PS4 and XBOX One has been out long enough to say whether there having problems because of how they where made! Maybe next year this you could make a statement to whether they are cheaply made or not! Just saying!
 
Doesn't sound suprising that there are quality issues with the controllers and consoles. The quality has been tailing off with each generation for a while now as a result of cutting costs.

In my opinion, the DS4 is a much higher quality than the DS3. I can't speak for the PS4 yet since it hasn't been out long at all (though my launch system has had zero issues thus far) but the controller so far is so much better than the DS3 it is crazy. The DS3 was my favorite controller last generation and after using the DS4 for a while it is very difficult to go back to the DS3. I played a bit of CoD on PS3 today and the analog sticks are nowhere near as responsive as the DS4 ones and I made it a point to use my new DS3 so I wouldn't be using my trusty red one with worn out sticks.

I agree that consoles are getting less and less reliable but that has more to do with the consoles being so much more advanced than previous ones. From what I have seen so far from the PS4 though (and Xbone) it is a very well built system and Sony have definitely learned from the last generation.
 
No I still have not decided between PS4 or X1. Especially since neither machine has 3d right now. Which boggles my mind. I was just agreeing that new consoles are nowhere near as reliable as the older machines. They truly seem to be getting less and less reliable each generation. I have been through a couple PS3's and many 360's. Yet my original Genesis, Atari, PS2, and Nintendo all still work. Never had a single problem ever with my original xbox. No joke not 1 single problem ever with that system. New consoles are just not as reliable as the older ones and I get more and more nervous about buying a console this gen. I understand there less moving parts, yada yada. However, the point is still valid. Older consoles were a lot more reliable.....it seems.
Both of the new consoles are way more reliable than the 360. I don't know one person in real life who has a new console break yet. With the 360 there would have been several of us by now and I would already be on my 3rd one.

I know what you mean though about the old consoles being more reliable though. The thing is, they didn't have any moving parts to break. Once we started seeing CDs cone into play then consoles started breaking.
 
Both of the new consoles are way more reliable than the 360. I don't know one person in real life who has a new console break yet. With the 360 there would have been several of us by now and I would already be on my 3rd one.

I know what you mean though about the old consoles being more reliable though. The thing is, they didn't have any moving parts to break. Once we started seeing CDs cone into play then consoles started breaking.
My PS4 broke a few hours after I got it...

First console that ever did that to me. :(
 
I'm on day 36 and just made it through Winter. Deerclops attacked and took out a herd of beefalos but I was able to lose him by running. On the move now trying to explore new areas and find some new supplies. Every day now is a new record for me so wish me luck.

Edit: So much for that. Dead at day 42 after being revived at 2 touchstones. Things took a severe turn for the worst really quick when I started playing again. It was summer again so I started to venture some.

I found a worm whole that took me to a forest area with some mechanical guys guarding a wooden thing. I tried to grab it and they attacked me so I ran. I equipped my walking stick so I could do a quick dash through and tried again but my inventory was full. Definitely messed up there. I get hit again and have low health so I run for it. Set up a fire and decide to chop down trees, unleashing two treeguards. I have two pine cone so I plant one and a treeguards replants. Go to plant the second and the treeguard hits me and I die.

Touchstone 1: gather up the supplies I left there, replenish my food at my base and go back to get my gear from my death. I get everything but the worm hole knocked my sanity way down. Find out I couldn't have even grabbed the wooden thing anyways and die at a campfire with low sanity.

Touchstone 2: gathering food at base to build up health again and decide to collect rabbit traps to cook in crockpot. I don't even think to check if beefalos are in heat and run straight into an angry one and boom, that's it. 3 deaths in 4 days and game over. Oh well, at least I learned a lot that game.
 
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Started Dont Starve yesterday.. made it to Day 3 xDDD its a weird game... but nice concept !

PS: so my new ds4 controller arrived yesterday, and i play very careful so the rubber dont wear through again... I think in 2 months i will need to replace my ds4 controller because it wears to fast....

Gonna buy some HAMA Thumbsticks
 
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After playing Assassin's Creed, NFS Rivals and BF4, which all have fantastic graphics and are launch games, I just makes me wonder how fantastic the games will look towards the end of the PS4's lifecycle :)
 
Started Dont Starve yesterday.. made it to Day 3 xDDD its a weird game... but nice concept !

PS: so my new ds4 controller arrived yesterday, and i play very careful so the rubber dont wear through again... I think in 2 months i will need to replace my ds4 controller because it wears to fast....

Gonna buy some HAMA Thumbsticks
Try these http://www.kontrolfreek.com

I've got the sniper on my right stick and the green CQC on my left one. once you get use to having these on them on it's amazing how much better the controller is. I can't play without them. I wish I would have started using them a long time ago.
 
I'm surprised that you haven't got your mind set on the one. Afterall, you did delight us with your expert prediction that it would outsell the PS4.
The X1 is only being sold in what 13+ countries? The PS4 is being sold worldwide in what 48+ countries. So technically the X1 is indeed outselling the PS4 by a longshot. Imagine the sales if the X1 was actually sold worldwide or in at least as many countries as the PS4. Its actually selling incredibly well especially when you consider it is $100 more expensive and still selling that many in only 13-15 countries. If they start releasing to more and more countries, it will indeed outsell the PS4 within 3 years. Not that it matters. Just a friendly guess / prediction that some take way too serious. :lol:

Regardless I am still waiting for either system to get 3D before I consider a purchase. The PS3 and 360 have 3d so it makes no sense for me to get a system right now. Still no word on when the 3d update is coming?
 
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The X1 is only being sold in what 13-15 countries? The PS4 is being sold worldwide. So technically the X1 is indeed outselling the PS4 by a longshot. Imagine the sales if the X1 was actually sold worldwide. Its actually selling incredibly well especially when you consider it is $100 more expensive and still selling that many in only 13-15 countries. If they start releasing to more and more countries, it will indeed outsell the PS4 within 3 years. Not that it matters. Just a friendly guess / prediction that some take way too serious. :lol:

No, I don't really take it seriously. I just think that your predictions are ridiculous. As for the PS4 being sold worldwide, it isn't. Hence why I imported. As for the X1, true, it might not be selling in as many countries, but I think some are overestimating the potential sales in the countries it has yet to release in. We are talking about small markets here.

Lastly, I asked you this because you seemed confident in the Xbone. It's not some attempt at a console war. I've seen you big up the Xbone in your posts over and over again, so seeing you claim that you haven't made your mind up yet came as a bit of a surprise.
 
The X1 is only being sold in what 13+ countries? The PS4 is being sold worldwide in what 48+ countries. So technically the X1 is indeed outselling the PS4 by a longshot.
But the PS4 is outselling the XBox One in countries they are both available in except maybe Australia from what I've read. Where would you get the idea the XBONE is outselling the PS4 by a long shot except for Major Nelson's 'fastest selling in the US' lie?
 
The X1 is only being sold in what 13+ countries? The PS4 is being sold worldwide in what 48+ countries. So technically the X1 is indeed outselling the PS4 by a longshot. Imagine the sales if the X1 was actually sold worldwide or in at least as many countries as the PS4. Its actually selling incredibly well especially when you consider it is $100 more expensive and still selling that many in only 13-15 countries. If they start releasing to more and more countries, it will indeed outsell the PS4 within 3 years. Not that it matters. Just a friendly guess / prediction that some take way too serious. :lol:

Regardless I am still waiting for either system to get 3D before I consider a purchase. The PS3 and 360 have 3d so it makes no sense for me to get a system right now. Still no word on when the 3d update is coming?

Do you have any sources for that? When the PS4 released it launched in North America alone where it managed over 1 million sales, the Xbox One launched in 13 countries,including North America where the Xbox usually outsold the PS3, and only managed 1 million sales too. The last sales figures I saw said the PS4 had sold about 4.2 million units and the Xbone was at 3 million, so I'd say the PS4 is still outselling the Xbone.

Also, the PS4 hasn't even launched in Japan yet which is traditionally a pretty big market for the PlayStation brand so come February I think we'll see another big PS4 sales jump.
 
Yeah, the numbers don't add up. I'm sure that once both consoles are released worldwide, the free market will decide which is the superior console, as it has been for the last 31 years.
 
So I've had the PS4 for nearly two months, so I guess it is time to give a proper impressions post thingy on it.

The Console

Well, enough has already been said about the PS4. The exterior design of it is distinctly Sony, and the nice parallelogram form factor is really appealing to me- both horizontally and vertically. I won't bore you with specs, but from the games, it certainly feels like a high end PC that has disguised itself as a gaming console. It is becoming apparent that the PS4 is easier to develop for than both of its competitors, so that should lead to higher quality titles being released for the platform. I will address an issue that may be bothering some, the noise of the console. From heavy usage, the PS4 remains mostly quiet. However, at times when playing graphic intense games like Killzone, it can get a bit noiser (no-where near as load as the PS3 Fat), but not as bad that you have to turn up the volume on your TV. The only issue I have with the console is the eject button, it requires quite a bit of pressure to make the button recognise that my finger is touching it. I guess that is to prevent accidental ejecting when cleaning the console. I like the fact that I can multi-task on PS4, truly makes me feel as if I'm on a PC.

The Controller

The DualShock 4 is the best gaming controller I have ever used. Period. Everything about it is a huge step up from the abysmal DS3, which was too small for my hands. The controller is big and fits comfortably into my hands without having to force them into a position like I did with the DS3. The analogue sticks are amazing too. What Sony did (which I never noticed until I held a DS4) was create a Concave-Convex hybrid stick, where the outer rim of the controller is Convave, and the middle convex. This gives me the precision I had with the DS3 with the comfort of a concave stick. Oh, and while we're on the subject of sticks- I've had no issues whatsoever with the sticks allegedly tearing, and this is after a month of heavy usage. The track pad I haven't really used much, but it seems like a second D-Pad to me- at least Killzone Shadow Fall does that when controlling the OWL. The triggers are good and bad. Yes, they are a massive leap forward from the sponges of the DS3 (and strangely, Xbox One). But at the same time, it may be difficult to play games like GT with it. Why, you may ask? Well it is because to me, it is harder to tell the difference between 25% pressure and 75% pressure on the trigger. Veteran GT players who use the controller will know it is key to not just go flat out after a corner, but here it may take more skill to see where the best spot on the trigger is. Minor improvements include buttons that click more and a textured D-Pad.

The Games and The Graphics

PS4 is billed as being a console that is "For The Players", the specs and first party games justify that fully. But the launch games are "meh" to say the least. There are a few games that surprised me (namely NFS Rivals and Knack), but many that disappointed me (Killzone Shadow Fall, Battlefield 4, Contrast). The latter games were either rushed or didn't appeal to me. Killzone Shadow Fall was a major disappointment, mainly due to the fact that it started out so well but fell downhill for the last half. Add a tacked on multiplayer where you can't even see how many kills you've got, and you can see why I'm disappointed. Battlefield 4 has the potential to be great, but as it is now, the game is outright broken. When you can't even save your Single-Player or complete a round of Rush without the game crashing, I get annoyed pretty quickly. NFS Rivals actually surprised me, due to being a return to what NFS should be (where from 2010, all NFS' have been Burnout). Knack, despite luke-warm response, was the best launch title to me. The story was great, really wanted to keep on going to see what happened next. I didn't want the game to end! The gameplay is an easy beat em up but with strategy, you can't just go into a fight and win by bashing square. You have to dodge and predict what the enemy is going to do. The graphics on all of the games I have really blew me away. Battlefield 4 and Killzone Shadow Fall in particular - despite disappointing me- really made me feel like I was playing on a high end PC. And if one thinks that, you know you've done something right/

The real Next-Gen games are all coming this year, and this year is going end up with me broke. We have Destiny, Infamous Second Son, Deep Down, The Division, Watch Dogs and Project Cars to name a few. And let us not forget what I call, "The Holy Trinity of Racing Games 2014" - NFS 2014 (Underground?), The Crew and Driveclub. We've got one hell of year ahead, and I for one can't wait to see what else 2014 has in store.

Do You Need a PS4?

Right now, no. Reason being that the many of the games you may be interested in can be bought on last gen consoles. But the bulk of the games that fully utilise the potential of the PS4 are coming out this year, and if the 1st party exclusives interest you, it is a wise investment to drop ÂŁ350 onto a PS4. Even with only a handful of games that I like, I don't regret my decision of getting one. And I'm sure when the games that interest you are released, you won't be disappointed either.
 
Yeah, the numbers don't add up. I'm sure that once both consoles are released worldwide, the free market will decide which is the superior console, as it has been for the last 31 years.
There won't likely be a "superior" console of the two, there are enough differences to attract different buyers, and the competition is good for everyone. I wouldn't want to live in a world where everyone drives around in a blue carX or live in a white row house. Millions enjoyed the last gen PS3 as did millions the 360, hope this gen the same.
 
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