Political Correctness

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huskeR32
Jesus, the desperation of some people in this thread to find the PC bogeyman everywhere they look is just plain silly.
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I don't think it's the "PC bogeyman" at work. By taking the "Easter" out of "Easter egg", it turns a religious holiday into a secular one, which looks like an attack on faith. It's the persecution persecution complex complex at work - when you're not complaining about being persecuted, you complain that you're not being persecuted enough for your persecution to be taken seriously.
 
DLR_Mysterion
Hmm but if I google "Easter egg hunt" the official National Trust page is:

https://www.nationaltrust.org.uk/features/join-the-cadbury-egg-hunts-this-easter

As in Egg hunts this Easter holidays.

And if it was "utter nonsense" why this message?
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Because it can be Easter and appeal to non-Christians. I mean it even has the damn word in the URL and all over the pages about it. What part of that leads to the conclusion that they removed Easter from it?

If you follow the link from the NT page to the Cadbury page you get.

https://easter.cadbury.co.uk/find-a...&utm_content=article1&utm_campaign=easter2016

Look it's another URL with the word Easter in it and Easter mentioned repeatedly on the actual page.

Or do you think you have a monopoly of egg shaped chocolate confectionery.

Interesting that you didn't bother commenting on the actual points is raised.

  • Easter wasn't removed from the ad campaign (i.e. that was an utter lie).
  • Quakers don't celebrate specific holy days, so you point about them is nonsense (unless you wish to argue with his direct descendants)
  • Easter eggs aren't Christian.

prisonermonkeys
I don't think it's the "PC bogeyman" at work. By taking the "Easter" out of "Easter egg", it turns a religious holiday into a secular one, which looks like an attack on faith. It's the persecution persecution complex complex at work - when you're not complaining about being persecuted, you complain that you're not being persecuted enough for your persecution to be taken seriously.
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I would agree, but they didn't even do that. The entire thing is based around an utter lie.
 
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Wow...I don't even.

Look, there is stupid PC crap, and then there is this claim of fire where none exist.

Like really you need it to say Easter egg hunt this Easter, to know it's a damn Easter holiday type event. Egg hunt is just as synonymous with the day, despite someone not saying Easter.

If someone says "hey you want to go on an egg hunt". It's pretty obvious that it is because it's Easter. This lie that @Scaff debunked is so stupid, that I feel bad he has to debunk it for one, and two I nearly missed it cause you have to be a special person, to try and actually make something out of absolute nothing to see some PC over ruler in that ad. Just wow...
 
More madness now with 'Tomahawk' missiles being deemed 'offensive to native Americans' by an editor in chief of a nationwide magazine:

 
Spurgy 777
You would think they would be more offensive to Syrians, but there we go.
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Thanks for the laugh.

mister dog
More madness now with 'Tomahawk' missiles being deemed 'offensive to native Americans' by an editor in chief of a nationwide magazine:

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Somebody missed the train on the naming of a missile that is more than 30 years into service. Also how is it offensive, if anything it's basically giving respect to the deadliness of the original weapon for its time.
 
mister dog
More madness now with 'Tomahawk' missiles being deemed 'offensive to native Americans' by an editor in chief of a nationwide magazine:

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Christ on a bike he picks some 'great' sources to quote!

Daily Mail, Breitbart and the Telegraph.

Now its not like any of those have made up and/or exaggerated stories to be enraged about (o wait all of them have, repeatedly).
 
Scaff
Christ on a bike he picks some 'great' sources to quote!

Daily Mail, Breitbart and the Telegraph.

Now its not like any of those have made up and/or exaggerated stories to be enraged about (o wait all of them have, repeatedly).
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Comon Scaff you can do better than that :lol: ;)
 
Scaff
Christ on a bike he picks some 'great' sources to quote!

Daily Mail, Breitbart and the Telegraph.

Now its not like any of those have made up and/or exaggerated stories to be enraged about (o wait all of them have, repeatedly).
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I mean I agree, he picked several sources that side with his view. But she actually did tweet that, all his sources say is she is being slammed on it. And from looking at twitter myself in response to her tweet, it's not all that far-fetched there is several people either correcting her ignorance, or being inflammatory about it because it's the internet.
 
LMSCorvetteGT2
I mean I agree, he picked several sources that side with his view. But she actually did tweet that, all his sources say is she is being slammed on it. And from looking at twitter myself in response to her tweet, it's not all that far-fetched there is several people either correcting her ignorance, or being inflammatory about it because it's the internet.
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Oh i quite agree that her tweet on the subject was daft, but people are allowed to be daft.

However I didn't notice the use of the terms offensive or cultural appropriation in the tweet at all.

Slam her all you like, but do so using the words actually used, not ones you want her to have used.

Now if she has used those exact phrases in other sources then i am happy to change that view.

Hence my issue with the use of sources that are happy to embellish when it's not even required.
 
S_Bridge
That would be a free speech issue not a political correctness issue.
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Political correctness can be speech issues, the concern about political correctness is that it can become law and when it does the issue of political correctness still applies with or without the law status.
 
Scaff
Oh i quite agree that her tweet on the subject was daft, but people are allowed to be daft.

However I didn't notice the use of the terms offensive or cultural appropriation in the tweet at all.

Slam her all you like, but do so using the words actually used, not ones you want her to have used.

Now if she has used those exact phrases in other sources then i am happy to change that view.

Hence my issue with the use of sources that are happy to embellish when it's not even required.
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Well that's why I agree the sources are bad, I don't listen to Dice for a reason...cause there is plenty of biased media on cable tv.
 
DLR_Mysterion
And if it was "utter nonsense" why this message?

Cadbury, which sponsors the event, said that it wanted to appeal to non-Christians, saying: "We invite people from all faiths and none to enjoy our seasonal treats."
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Those bastards. How dare they attempt to appeal to both Christians and those of other faiths? Don't they know that this is a Christian only holiday?! To celebrate the holy bunny and his laying of chocolate eggs...
 
Imari
Those bastards. How dare they attempt to appeal to both Christians and those of other faiths? Don't they know that this is a Christian only holiday?! To celebrate the holy bunny and his laying of chocolate eggs...
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A couple of other things too... as pointed out by @Scaff Cadbury's is a Quaker company so its founders didn't observe Easter Day, as pointed out by me Easter goes back before Christing anyway :D
 
mustafur
Political correctness can be speech issues, the concern about political correctness is that it can become law and when it does the issue of political correctness still applies with or without the law status.
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I'm not sure which countries have passed politically correct legislation but if one ever were to do so then I think more people would be concerned about it being bad law than'd be concerned about social attitudes they found incompatible with their own personal philosophy.
 
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Scaff
Tesco are at it now.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-39587226
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This phrase seemed pertinent to me.
Mr Coles said on Twitter that the advert "causes unnecessary offence to many. It didn't need to."
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He did mention ignorance of what religious people hold dear, which is probably something that could cause offense. I think the same religious people could just as easily not take offense though.
 
S_Bridge
This phrase seemed pertinent to me.

He did mention ignorance of what religious people hold dear, which is probably something that could cause offense. I think the same religious people could just as easily not take offense though.
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I'm not a big fan of street corner preachers or JWs knocking on my door. Doesn't mean I cry 'offense' when it happens or apply pressure for it to be stopped.
 
PeterJB
Where is the problem?
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The problem is that we preferentially pay worship to a brand, rather than God.

It's ironic I saw a video from the film "Dogma" before posting

I won't link it here because it's against the AUP, but youtube "Mooby massacre" :)

Imari
Those bastards. How dare they attempt to appeal to both Christians and those of other faiths? Don't they know that this is a Christian only holiday?! To celebrate the holy bunny and his laying of chocolate eggs...
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Hey wait a minute, that was used as justification of my point and nothing else. As in, why the message if there's nothing to speak out about. Everyone can celebrate Easter egg hunts :cheers:
 
DLR_Mysterion
The problem is that we preferentially pay worship to a brand, rather than God.

It's ironic I saw a video from the film "Dogma" before posting

I won't link it here because it's against the AUP, but youtube "Mooby massacre" :)
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So if they remove Easter from it (which was a blatant lie) then we will all start worshipping chocolate?

Have you any idea how fundamentalist you sound right now?


DLR_Mysterion
Hey wait a minute, that was used as justification of my point and nothing else. As in, why the message if there's nothing to speak out about. Everyone can celebrate Easter egg hunts :cheers:
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That's certainly at odds with how you were coming across when you lead with this non-story.
 

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