[POLL] United States Presidential Elections 2016

[Sanji Himura]

The former makes more sense - all of her opponents have been trying to portray her as having a variety of ailments like vascular dementia, which are both incurable and would make her unable to hold office. However, it is entirely possible to recover from pneumonia and its onset is easily explained by the stress of a lengthy and bitter campaign, and the ambient conditions at the time.

She seemed perfectly capable of campaigning back in 2008, so what changed? If it is a simple matter of pneumonia as the Clinton campaign would have you believe, then why this image:

Source: CNN

Pay attention to the man on the left of Clinton (with the bluish purple tie). He becomes important later.

Here is another photograph of Clinton.

Source: Snopes.com

Many have theorized that the item that the agent has is actually a Diazepam pen. Diazepam, for those familiar with the Metal Gear Solid series, is designed to calm the nerves. However, according to Drugs.com, Diazepam is used to treat anxiety disorders, alcohol withdrawal symptoms, or muscle spasms. Diazepam is sometimes used with other medications to treat seizures. Many have theorized that Hillary has had seizures in the past so that pen would have been used to calm her down quickly.

 

[mustafur]

The same Handler that alot of people think is actually a doctor is in every video nearly, where as the other Handlers change all the time.

He was also there when she went out cold getting into the Van.

I try to avoid conspiracy theory's but Hillary is not the kind of person that breeds confidence to them being false.

 

[Touring Mars]

The same Handler that alot of people think is actually a doctor is in every video nearly, where as the other Handlers change all the time.

He was also there when she went out cold getting into the Van.

I try to avoid conspiracy theory's but Hillary is not the kind of person that breeds confidence to them being false.

Indeed he is always there, and if you look at the video of Hillary being bundled into the van on Sunday, there is something very strange happens that is currently being analysed to death online. Just as Hillary is stumbling forward, he takes hold of Clinton's shoulder - nothing weird about that, but a metal object of some description can be seen (and even heard) falling to the ground behind Clinton's dragging foot. Speculation is rife that the object falls out from Clinton's trouser leg (suggesting possibly a catheter or some other medical contraption strapped to her leg), but it doesn't look like that to me - but it could easily have been something that guy is holding, or possibly the woman who can be seen jerking her hand away just before the object falls. It could be perfectly innocent, but it is very strange - note too that you can see/hear the item even in the original videos posted by CNN etc., so they have not been doctored (pardon the pun).

 

[TheCracker]

Many have theorized that the item that the agent has is actually a Diazepam pen. Diazepam, for those familiar with the Metal Gear Solid series, is designed to calm the nerves. However, according to Drugs.com, Diazepam is used to treat anxiety disorders, alcohol withdrawal symptoms, or muscle spasms. Diazepam is sometimes used with other medications to treat seizures. Many have theorized that Hillary has had seizures in the past so that pen would have been used to calm her down quickly.

I've been given diazepam to relax spasmed muscles in my lower back. It could just as easily be for something similar.

 

[DR_SID]

I can sympathize with her on a human level but as a politician she can go to hell.

 

[mustafur]

The reason why the Health of president is of such importance especially mental is do you think it's fair to the People if she become unfit to do her job that someone unelected takes her spot, robbing the people of a choice in the outcome of who they want as president.

Her VP pick is ultra establishment that i doubt would have a chance in the General and really comes off looking bad if she wins the nomination and ends up giving her role to Tim Kaine who likely would have no chance at hell at getting the presidency if vote come along even against someone like Trump.

Democrats need to think long and hard here, because if she isn't fit for the job come the General and she has to give up her role though illness or even death, they could risk their parties future in the hands of someone no one wants, the backlash could be fatal or at the very least be long term pain.

I am pretty sure if push came to shove they would probably try get Biden to take the place as they wouldn't in a million years go for Bernie even though it would be the safest option for their party in the future, establishment ties are way too deep here.

 

[mister dog]

If the leaked medical records are real, and she does suffer from Subcortical Vascular Dementia:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vascular_dementia

This would be a scandal like you can't imagine. Lying to the whole world in order to get elected even though she suffers from a terminal disease

 

[Dotini]

It seems WABC TV New York City has (prematurely?) announced Hillary Clinton's death.
https://www.superstation95.com/index.php/world/1996

 

[Dennisch]

Lying to the whole world in order to get elected

That's what a politician does.

 

[mister dog]

That's what a politician does.

Yes but there's a minor elephant in the room on top of that.

 

[Tornado]

It seems WABC TV New York City has (prematurely?) announced Hillary Clinton's death.
https://www.superstation95.com/index.php/world/1996

 

[Danoff]

Democrats need to think long and hard here, because if she isn't fit for the job come the General and she has to give up her role though illness or even death, they could risk their parties future in the hands of someone no one wants, the backlash could be fatal or at the very least be long term pain.

I think they'd do anything to stop Trump - no matter the political fallout.

 

[mister dog]

This stinks too:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...ve-speculation-about-hillary-clintons-health/

 

[Danoff]

This stinks too:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...ve-speculation-about-hillary-clintons-health/

Wow

 

[mustafur]

This stinks too:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...ve-speculation-about-hillary-clintons-health/

Clintons News Network strikes agian.

 

[ryzno]

Wow

Y'all ain't know about that? Happened like a week or two ago.

 

[Touring Mars]

The Week seem to think that the Clinton campaign have dropped a bollock of King Kong-sized proportions...

http://theweek.com/articles/648141/why-did-hillary-clinton-lie-about-health

 

[mustafur]

Y'all ain't know about that? Happened like a week or two ago.

They are quick.

This was quicker though:

Here is another sacked for questioning her health(about 2-3 weeks ago), this time a Huffington Post contributor:

This is America right? Sounds like Turkey.

 

[ryzno]

They are quick.

This was quicker though:

Here is another sacked for questioning her health(about 2-3 weeks ago), this time a Huffington Post contributor:

This is America right? Sounds like Turkey.

I didn't know about them. I heard about Dr. Drew at work on the radio like two weeks ago. I guess since I've been following him since Love Line w/ Adam Carolla, I found out.

 

[prisonermonkeys]

She seemed perfectly capable of campaigning back in 2008, so what changed?

At the risk of stating the obvious, eight years.

 

[Liquid]

It's no surprise that CNN are her fourth or fifth biggest donor. Clinton News Network is a very apt name.

 

[Sanji Himura]

It's no surprise that CNN are her fourth or fifth biggest donor. Clinton News Network is a very apt name.

Seventh to the Clinton Foundation.

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

It may make her 'look weak' to some, but it shouldn't be held against her... admitting that you are not well enough to attend a function should never be a problem, and any attempt (e.g. by Trump) to score political points from an illness-related no-show could easily have backfired badly... in other words, I'm really struggling to see what possible benefit it had to force herself to work despite her diagnosis on Friday... if anything, Clinton's appearance at various scheduled events over the weekend casts severe doubt on the idea that she was diagnosed on Friday - with the implication being that she has possibly known about it for some time, and has been relying on various coping mechanisms... possibly including those slightly bizarre blue tinted sunglasses (that may help Parkinson's sufferers).

I sincerely hope that the non-MSM reports that are following this line of inquiry are wrong, and I may be I've been watching too many episodes of Columbo (OK, there is no 'may be' about that!), but something doesn't add up here.

This, I'd have easily been on the side of people saying this is stupid and being blown up, if Clinton wasn't doing a double take from the time she fainted (yet again) and had a concussion. If it was simply as @prisonermonkeys damage control claims of stress, why be economical about it as you put it? When many Americans understand that everyone gets sick once in a while and if she has to call off, her and her team could easily make it seem reasonable.

Trump's a blow hole with lips and teeth, and so his group of people are going to believe him no matter what so you can't convince them otherwise. However it's a bit like the F1/internet situation in which a big power is claimed to being doing things based on dissenting voices behind a computer screen. Where people churning the pot on the web are just that, and really hold no might in reality, thus it's confusing to think that Clinton and co. would go ahead with this just to prove corners of the net wrong. Instead she miss stepped yet again (no pun intended).

Now for those paying attention, they actually get a bigger voice and now lay credence to what PM was saying. Before it could be dismissed as fringe, now not so much and the internet can light this up from here until November because the past 5-6 years of her health issues all seem to be linked to the present or could be argued as such.

If the leaked medical records are real, and she does suffer from Subcortical Vascular Dementia:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vascular_dementia

This would be a scandal like you can't imagine. Lying to the whole world in order to get elected even though she suffers from a terminal disease

Would be probably one of her biggest lies, but not surprising. As I think Jon Stewart put it, she strikes him as the type of person that will do anything to win, and he wasn't so sure a real person existed beneath her skin. In other words she is so fake and full of BS that he doubts even Hillary could find herself again.

So I'd dare say people are almost expecting Hillary to have lied to them about her health at this point.

 

[Dotini]

9/11/16, does "nurse" (Dr Lisa Bardack?) appear to be administering a neurological test?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...eurological-test-collapsed-9-11-memorial.html

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Rumors: Pictures apparently showing Clinton squeezing the woman's fingers also revived much derided rumors that Clinton is suffering from Parkinson's disease

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EDIT:

https://informatics.med.nyu.edu/modules/pub/neurosurgery/motor.html

Examine the patient's hands. Look for intrinsic hand, thenar and hypothenar muscle wasting.

Test the patient's grip by having the patient hold the examiner's fingers in their fist tightly and instructing them not to let go while the examiner attempts to remove them. Normally the examiner cannot remove their fingers. This tests the forearm flexors and the intrinsic hand muscles. Compare the hands for strength asymmetry.

Finger flexion is innervated by the C8 nerve root via the median nerve.


TV doctor speculates

 

[mister dog]

But but... Daily mail

Edit: Trump poisoned her!

 

[Touring Mars]

The next fortnight is going to be critical for the Clinton campaign, with a hard deadline of the 26th September (13 days from now) in the shape of the first head-to-head Presidential Debate against Donald Trump.

If Clinton and her campaign are telling the truth (and it's clear that they are not being completely honest), then there's a good chance that Clinton will be at the debate all guns blazing... but if they are concealing a much more serious illness, then there is no way she's going to make this debate, which could spell the end for her Presidential ambitions.

 

[Dennisch]

If she does make it to the debate, I'd like to see her completely crumble at the mic. With Trump just standing there not knowing what to do.

 

[Tornado]

"Look at Crooked Hilary. She's so crooked she can't stand up straight"

- Donald Trump, probably

 

[88GTA]

If Trump is smart (big if), he will just sit back and take anything she says with a smile. All he needs to say is, "I don't think it's fair to pick on old, sick ladies."

 

[polysmut]

"Look at Crooked Hilary. She's so crooked she can't stand up straight"

- Donald Trump, probably

I think he would appear concerned for her well being & shout for medical help. Which would already be running to the podium anyway.