Project CARS car list

[GranTurismo guy]

i hope RUF do something with the 918 so we might get to drive one in this game

That would be one exclusive ruf.

 

[TDZdave]

In the second post of this thread there is another list of cars, some with "Alpha" next to them, what does "Alpha" mean?

 

[Willfred_1]

In the second post of this thread there is another list of cars, some with "Alpha" next to them, what does "Alpha" mean?

It refers to their stage of development
Alpha is the cars modelled and sometimes can work. It's a crude model once most of the details are there and they have sounds and handling etc the car goes into beta. This is a much longer period of time.
During this period the car is being constantly refined and updated with animations, sound, textures or even the model itself.
For example the gt3 ginetta had a change in dash display to bring it in
Inline with the current models.
Normally we only get access once the vehicle is in late alpha or early beta.
Does this help?

 

[TDZdave]

It refers to their stage of development
Alpha is the cars modelled and sometimes can work. It's a crude model once most of the details are there and they have sounds and handling etc the car goes into beta. This is a much longer period of time.
During this period the car is being constantly refined and updated with animations, sound, textures or even the model itself.
For example the gt3 ginetta had a change in dash display to bring it in
Inline with the current models.
Normally we only get access once the vehicle is in late alpha or early beta.
Does this help?

ok so in short, its somewhere between started and not quite ready?

 

[Willfred_1]

ok so in short, its somewhere between started and not quite ready?

Exactly

 

[Kangoojoe]

Well, because they first have to license them. AFAIK, licensing is a long and difficult process and not every cars/car companies are licensable and/or affordable.

Yes i understand that,it's the same reason why Gran turismo has always used ruf instead of porsche but i'm also talking about the private teams and earlier teams not racing anymore today like Peugeot,Pescarolo,Dome,Strakka and various other privately owned teams that still race but have never shown up in any other game (As far as I know of) like Rebellion and Lotus (in lmp1-L). As for toyota,where's the problem there? they have introduced audi's r18 TDI from 2012 and are even creating the e-tron (hybrid/quattro) version from 2013. Surely if they can buy the license for audi,they can find the money for toyota,after all, the ts030-ts040 are audi's biggest rivals for le mans (reminding you that toyota won last year's WEC in front of porsche and audi). So to me and many other fans, it seems a shame to exclude such brilliant makes.

 

[Johnnypenso]

Surely if they can buy the license for audi,they can find the money for toyota,after all, the ts030-ts040 are audi's biggest rival for le mans (reminding you that toyota won last year's WEC in front of porsche and audi).

No they can't.

 

[FuriousDemon]

Yes i understand that,it's the same reason why Gran turismo has always used ruf instead of porsche but i'm also talking about the private teams and earlier teams not racing anymore today like Peugeot,Pescarolo,Dome,Strakka and various other privately owned teams that still race but have never shown up in any other game (As far as I know of) like Rebellion and Lotus (in lmp1-L). As for toyota,where's the problem there? they have introduced audi's r18 TDI from 2012 and are even creating the e-tron (hybrid/quattro) version from 2013. Surely if they can buy the license for audi,they can find the money for toyota,after all, the ts030-ts040 are audi's biggest rival for le mans (reminding you that toyota won last year's WEC in front of porsche and audi). So to me and many other fans, it seems a shame to exclude such brilliant makes.

I think some people don't get the "limited budget" concept. Such a shame...

Seriously, people who put comments like these are thinking that SMS deliberately didn't include Toyota/Ferrari/whateverothercarbrandthatyoufeelisleftout just to mess with you or cause they think it's unimportant? I'm sure they are aware of what cars are out there, but they just had a relatively small licensing budget and also a limited number of graphics artists they can hire. Once the game sells well, I'm sure there will be more cars added. Then we can talk about why such and such car is not in.

 

[Kangoojoe]

This also goes for lmp2,
Apart from the alpine A450b and the Oreca 03 I don't see any other "real" prototypes of their class (correct me if i'm wrong)
So it would be nice to bring in the Oak racing Morgan-Nissan or the G-drive Ligiers (among many others).
The last little thing is for the ford gt 40..
Where is the MKI and MKII??
As much as I love the MKIV, there were other versions of it,that had also successfully won Le mans 3 times (2 by the same exact car) in the 60's.
I'm sorry for all my "complaining" but I really want this game,but I want to be able to experience it with some of the best cars that were ever made that unfortunately are not on the list (at the moment).

 

[Kangoojoe]

I think some people don't get the "limited budget" concept. Such a shame...

Seriously, people who put comments like these are thinking that SMS deliberately didn't include Toyota/Ferrari/whateverothercarbrandthatyoufeelisleftout just to mess with you or cause they think it's unimportant? I'm sure they are aware of what cars are out there, but they just had a relatively small licensing budget and also a limited number of graphics artists they can hire. Once the game sells well, I'm sure there will be more cars added. Then we can talk about why such and such car is not in.

That was also what I thought that they should do if they can't add them now
I just don't believe we're going to see them in there at all

 

[TexasTyme214]

For starters, we don't know what licenses SMS have acquired until they make an announcement. Also, sometimes, manufacturers won't give out licenses for some cars for their own reasons. It's not always a case of game developers forgetting about cars. So, there might still be a chance for Toyota, Onroak, etc. Of course, money has also been mentioned, which is another big part.

 

[Kangoojoe]

In my opinion a Racing/Simulation game should reserve places for these sort of cars (lmp1-2/group c/F1...) and not worry too much about other road cars/sports cars of even supercars as they are not proper racing cars!

 

[Northstar]

Which they have been doing, however people do like driving and racing street cars so it's worthwhile to include them.

Also, for any WMD members. Have they considered adding more fantasy LMP cars?

 

[FuriousDemon]

Which they have been doing, however people do like driving and racing street cars so it's worthwhile to include them.

Also, for any WMD members. Have they considered adding more fantasy LMP cars?

Not at the moment AFAIK.

 

[Kangoojoe]

Not at the moment AFAIK.

yes they have.. they've made two lmp1's and two lmp2's but i'd rather have real one's rather than made up versions..
oh well,that's not going to happen
we'll just have to wait for gran turismo 7

 

[catamount39]

yes they have.. they've made two lmp1's and two lmp2's but i'd rather have real one's rather than made up versions..
oh well,that's not going to happen
we'll just have to wait for gran turismo 7

As far as I know based on the list PCARS has or is planning:
Bentley Speed 8 LMP900
Audi R8 LMP900
Audi R18 LMP1 (multiple variations)
Oreca LMP2
Alpine LMP2 (?)
2 Fantasy LMP1's and 2 LMP2's

And those are just the post-2000 cars...considering the budget these guys have I'm EXTREMELY impressed by the LMP list. 👍 👍 Besides their "fantasy" LMP's are extremely believable.

 

[TDZdave]

As far as I know based on the list PCARS has or is planning:
Bentley Speed 8 LMP900
Audi R8 LMP900
Audi R18 LMP1 (multiple variations)
Oreca LMP2
Alpine LMP2 (?)
2 Fantasy LMP1's and 2 LMP2's

And those are just the post-2000 cars...considering the budget these guys have I'm EXTREMELY impressed by the LMP list. 👍 👍 Besides their "fantasy" LMP's are extremely believable.

And its probably a safe bet that those fantasy P1 cars are going to be Clayton Toyota and Porsche,

 

[c172fccc]

And its probably a safe bet that those fantasy P1 cars are going to be Clayton Toyota and Porsche,

Not really, they are already in the game and are completely fictionnal.

 

[catamount39]

Yeah I just couldn't remember there names.

 

[Willfred_1]

Interesting enough the lmp1 and lmp2 that are fictional were created in such a way that if they were real they could race. Just like the ruf gt3.

 

[FLX1981]

Yeah I just couldn't remember there names.

Yeah. If only there was a car list or something in the op of this thread...

 

[catamount39]

Yeah. If only there was a car list or something in the op of this thread...

Long day at College.

 

[panjandrum]

I've been eying this game for a while with mild interest and I might spring for the PC version when it becomes available.

But a quick question since I'm "out of the loop" a bit (busy!): For the most part I'm a big fan of cars, especially classic performance road cars, but have little interest in purpose-built race cars etc. My perfect racing day is taking an Alpine A110 or Yellowbird and running around Citta Di Aria in GT4. Looking at the car-list, it looks to me as if Project Cars is aimed primarily at racing cars or race-modified cars, but not so much at road-cars. Is this the general consensus, or am I off-base here?

 

[FuriousDemon]

I've been eying this game for a while with mild interest and I might spring for the PC version when it becomes available.

But a quick question since I'm "out of the loop" a bit (busy!): For the most part I'm a big fan of cars, especially classic performance road cars, but have little interest in purpose-built race cars etc. My perfect racing day is taking an Alpine A110 or Yellowbird and running around Citta Di Aria in GT4. Looking at the car-list, it looks to me as if Project Cars is aimed primarily at racing cars or race-modified cars, but not so much at road-cars. Is this the general consensus, or am I off-base here?

You are correct. Probably not the game for you, if you want lots of road cars.

 

[FLX1981]

I d say it depends on your road car conaisseur level. If you want the full double cheeseburger menu with XL fries, you will still feel hungry after playing pcars. If you like some wine and fine cheese, voila. Your Yellowbird is waiting in ze parking lot, Monsieur.

 

[JR98]

I d say it depends on your road car conaisseur level. If you want the full double cheeseburger menu with XL fries, you will still feel hungry after playing pcars. If you like some wine and fine cheese, voila. Your Yellowbird is waiting in ze parking lot, Monsieur.

I'm happy with the current list and I'm surprised with what they have gotten so far. If I want a lot of cars I can wait for GT7 or just play rFactor.

 

[Willfred_1]

I'm happy with the current list and I'm surprised with what they have gotten so far. If I want a lot of cars I can wait for GT7 or just play rFactor.

If the games sales well SMS might be able to get more. The licensing guys have a massive list of cars and brands the community would like. The games going to have a life of at least a year, so post dlc release they could be more cars.
This is just speculation but SMS will strive to expand game.

 

[JR98]

If the games sales well SMS might be able to get more. The licensing guys have a massive list of cars and brands the community would like. The games going to have a life of at least a year, so post dlc release they could be more cars.
This is just speculation but SMS will strive to expand game.

Yeah cause I remember seeing a few unconfirmed and not yet in game cars that look interesting.

In fact I can see potential DLC from the Not Yet In Gamelist

*These are my ideas, not the words of SMS

LeMans Pack

1959 Aston Martin DBR1
2002 Audi R8 LMP900
2013 Audi R18 e-Tron Quattro
2003 Bentley Speed 8 GTLMP
1999 BMW V12 LMR
1997 McLaren F1 GTR Longtail
1998 Mercedes-Benz CLK-LM
1978 Renault Alpine A442B

Touring Car Pack

1989 Audi 90 IMSA GTO
2012 BMW BTCC 3-Series Touring Car
2013 Ford Falcon FG Australian V8 Supercar CotF
2012 Ford Focus ST BTCC
1999 Renault Laguna BTCC
2012 Renault Megane Trophy II

Formula Pack

2015 Dallara DW-12 Indy Car
1962 Lotus 25 Formula 1
1965 Lotus 38 Indy 500
1965 Lotus 40
1970 Lotus 49 C Formula 1
1967 Lotus 51 Formula Ford
1968 Lotus 56 Indy Car

Street Pack

2012 Audi A1 Quattro
1974 BMW 2002 Turbo
1966 Ford Mustang 2+2 Fastback
2015 Ford Mustang GT
1952 Mercedes-Benz 300SL W194
2008 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution IX FQ 360
1998 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VI Tommi Makinen Edition
1987 RUF CTR Yellowbird

GT Racing Pack

2013 Aston Martin Vantage GTE
2013 Bentley Continental GT3
2012 Ford Fusion NASCAR Stock Car
2013 RUF RT-12 R

Just my thoughts

Edit: Just like to add that the cars on the unconfirmed car list have not been included

 

[blowfishrulez]

^How can anyone say this is not a delicious car list? It actually is great and way more attractive than what PD has offered since the launch of GT6. Packaging will probably be a bit more mixed and combined by years/decades i think.

PS: The Alpine A442B is actually a le mans prototype car, not a street car
PPS: The RUF RT12-R on the other hand is a street car :-)

 

[JR98]

^How can anyone say this is not a delicious car list? It actually is great and way more attractive than what PD has offered since the launch of GT6. Packaging will probably be a bit more mixed and combined by years/decades i think.

PS: The Alpine A442B is actually a le mans prototype car, not a street car

Oh, whoops. Will put that in the LeMans pack then