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- chicago
- EliteKilla29
Same here.
Project cars DLC
- Thread starter SK8RBOI
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Same here.
- 9,554
- Vermont
- catamount39
Just a side question, probably broader than just PCARS and SMS, but why is Sebring only available in Forza? Please tell me it's not one of those stupid "exclusivity" type of deals.
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- Northamton
- FRS_SK8R
It's in The Crew as well.
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- GianTyphoon
Wow, okay. I was just wondering because when I first downloaded the DLC and tried drifting the MX5 it was such a handful. My wheel was set to 900 degrees at the time but the suspension setup is incredibly soft! I think it's this setup which makes it so twitchy and such.It was a stock, just took a bit of gas out of it and dumped my T300rs steering angle down to 540 degrees... Once I stopped driving with logic the car seemed to run a bit smoother but honestly it would be easier to drive a shopping trolley
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- vermont
- diesel4x497
Doesn't Pcars change DOR (degrees of rotation) on a car by car basis ? What DOR should a drift car be with a high degrees of angle like the MX5 ?
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- GianTyphoon
I don't know if it does. I'm still not that experienced with the settings since I only got PCars at Christmas. I would've thought that 900 degrees would be fine for the MX5. Previously I was drifting the Merc 300SEL (yes I know it's nothing like the MX5) on 900 degrees and it was perfect. I think the Radbul may suit a lower degrees of rotation due to its lock. It must have a good 80 degrees of lock!
dopedog
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- United Kingdom
Full on drift cars have massive lock hence why they remove some bodywork around the fender which has become a bit of a scene 'look' now i notice even for none drift purpose cars.
The radbull is a handful to say the least, tried it once but not a drift fan, love watching it though.
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- GianTyphoon
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- captain_tiggles
If you want the car to feel a wee bit more 'conventional', you would probably raise the ride hight and move it's ballast off the rear wheels. Remember the car is excessive in power and not like any other in the game - so regardless of what you do it will be spinning it's rears.
I'd argue rather than dramatically adjusting the car to you, you are better off adjusting to the car. It's very rare that you'd actually go full stink on the gas pedal - even at half pressure you're still dumping 700 something ponies into the tarmac. The throttle is your steering wheel... All the wheel does is get you down the straights.
It does to an extent, but you can override it in game so the physical wheel accelerates and amplifies your inputs. It looks silly on 540 degrees as when you turn your wheel 90 degrees the in game man is turning to around 135.
However I will go back on what I said earlier, as time has gone on and I've adjusted back to 720
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- GianTyphoon
I have already began tuning it by moving the weight around and what not but I think you may have a point about adjusting to the car. It is one whole different ball game!
dopedog
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- United Kingdom
Any tips on set up? I may give it more time, cheers
- 11,660
- GTP_Orido
Just for information, the real mad mike radbull mx5 has 60% weight at the rear axle, spool rear diff, and 1000+HP on low boost, with possibility to go over 1500HP on higher boost. It has KW V3 coilover, which came standard with 40Nmm front spring and rear progressive spring ( probably about 30Nmm ), drift cars tend to use softer springs, rarely will have more than 80Nmm spring, the goal is control and balance, too stiff of a spring and it bounces, bad when going sideways. The real radbull also do not have roll bar on both axle.
You can try my setup, linked on my sig, I have another member here testing it, still in progress, but based on feedback, it drifts much better than stock setup which has been said to be awful. The stock setup has zero caster, which is silly, but even on high caster, it seems the caster effect is non existent based on test feedback ( real life drift setup uses high caster to help with turn in and self centering when countersteering ). Anyway, give it a go if you wish. I would suggest to run lowest boost with the restrictor used on the setup. There's bug on the pcars database setup page, I can't lower wastegate pressure or lower the downforce. Running minimum downforce may help with initiating drift.
You can try my setup, linked on my sig, I have another member here testing it, still in progress, but based on feedback, it drifts much better than stock setup which has been said to be awful. The stock setup has zero caster, which is silly, but even on high caster, it seems the caster effect is non existent based on test feedback ( real life drift setup uses high caster to help with turn in and self centering when countersteering ). Anyway, give it a go if you wish. I would suggest to run lowest boost with the restrictor used on the setup. There's bug on the pcars database setup page, I can't lower wastegate pressure or lower the downforce. Running minimum downforce may help with initiating drift.
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- Vermont
- catamount39
It's like a slotcar version of the circuit. Dare I mention "The Crew"'s take on Laguna Seca?
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- Hindmarsh Island
- TDZ-4-12-14-88
- XBOX_is_GAY!!!!
It's like a slotcar version of the circuit. Dare I mention "The Crew"'s take on Laguna Seca?
Sebring is also in iRacing, and that version would be hard to top, it took me nearly 12 months to work out the fastest way through turn one and the last turn, it would be a great addition to any game,
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- Indiana
- alexschmidt1995
- 11,660
- GTP_Orido
Hey guys, just a quick question:
What transmission does the Radbul have? Looks like sequential but may be H-Pattern??!?
Thanks
Holinger 6 speed close ratio sequential, RD6 model as used in V8SC ( RD6 is well known for it's high torque capacity/durability). Still uses clutch ( twin plate metallic ) and the rear diff is Winters quick change type. The gear ratio in Pcars is different to what Holinger offers on their RD6 gear ratio catalogue. Pcars 1st gear ratio is 8.36 on 4.47 final, and Holinger offers 3.157 ( the shortest/highest for 1st gear ) on RD6.
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- Secret Bobo HQ
- OnTheApex6Albert
So happy to see so many Corvette Fans haha, been a huge fan since watching ALMS back in 2013 and transitioning over to WTSCC, also been wanting the C7R since day 1!
I suppose like the Falcon, we may have alot of GTE/GT3 lobbies open on release day
I suppose like the Falcon, we may have alot of GTE/GT3 lobbies open on release day
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I gave it one crack with the DS4 and it will be the last. Impossible to drive, doesn't seem to have enough lock and the wheelbase feels too short.
Surely it doesn't handle this poorly in real life??
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- stigsdaddy
Ok, I've been testing a setup for the Radbull MX5 for @Ridox2JZGTE, which can be found at: http://projectcarssetups.eu/#/viewsetup/96668842.
My impressions of the MX5 with the stock setup were that it's far too stiff, snaps very hard, the engine is too peaky, and the diff is way too open. This makes it very difficult to hold smooth slides, and makes it very unpredictable when it will snap out of a slide, thanks to the stupid diff settings.
Now onto @Ridox2JZGTE 's setup:
The suspension feels much softer, which allows the driver to anticipate what the car is doing in a slide much easier. The diff is as locked as it can get, making it as close as possible to the spool diff the real car has, this makes the wheels always spin at the same speed, which allows finer control using the throttle, as you don't have the diff locking and unlocking at random while you're sliding. Taking the boost out drops the power down to around 700hp, which is still plenty, but more importantly, it takes away the peaky nature of the power delivery due to not having that wild transition onto boost.
The higher steering ratio makes adjustments smoother, but you do need to work quite hard at the wheel. I also found that with the high caster I had to drop my ffb master down a fair bit, otherwise the wheel was too stiff to spin quickly enough.
With these settings, I was able to put together some quite good drifts with relative ease, and also while keeping my wheel rotation on 900 degrees. I'm not a big drifter, so usually I have to drop the degrees of rotation down to between 540 and 700 to get respectable results when drifting. These settings allowed me to grow accustomed to the car quite quickly, and achieve some satisfying drifting within a couple of laps of practice. They make the car feel nice to drive, and comfortably progressive, while still keeping it tail happy. I'd recommend it to anyone looking for a plug n play drift setup to tame this car.
My impressions of the MX5 with the stock setup were that it's far too stiff, snaps very hard, the engine is too peaky, and the diff is way too open. This makes it very difficult to hold smooth slides, and makes it very unpredictable when it will snap out of a slide, thanks to the stupid diff settings.
Now onto @Ridox2JZGTE 's setup:
The suspension feels much softer, which allows the driver to anticipate what the car is doing in a slide much easier. The diff is as locked as it can get, making it as close as possible to the spool diff the real car has, this makes the wheels always spin at the same speed, which allows finer control using the throttle, as you don't have the diff locking and unlocking at random while you're sliding. Taking the boost out drops the power down to around 700hp, which is still plenty, but more importantly, it takes away the peaky nature of the power delivery due to not having that wild transition onto boost.
The higher steering ratio makes adjustments smoother, but you do need to work quite hard at the wheel. I also found that with the high caster I had to drop my ffb master down a fair bit, otherwise the wheel was too stiff to spin quickly enough.
With these settings, I was able to put together some quite good drifts with relative ease, and also while keeping my wheel rotation on 900 degrees. I'm not a big drifter, so usually I have to drop the degrees of rotation down to between 540 and 700 to get respectable results when drifting. These settings allowed me to grow accustomed to the car quite quickly, and achieve some satisfying drifting within a couple of laps of practice. They make the car feel nice to drive, and comfortably progressive, while still keeping it tail happy. I'd recommend it to anyone looking for a plug n play drift setup to tame this car.
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- Flaw3dGenius23
So i just raced on Bannochbrae! Wow! What an excellent track! So much better than Azure Coast or Cali! It reminds me of a much better Driveclub track way more memorable.
- 44,185
- Blackburn
- Furinkazen_54
Always forgot that car existed.
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- Scotland
- Bush_Killa-73
Yes loving the new track! This games been crying out for new tracks and it's a wee belter!
Can anyone provide a link to where I can tweak the settings for that mental mx5 drift car? I can't even point it in a straight line!!
dopedog
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- United Kingdom
Bannochbrae will now be my go to track for the 'PCars Tourist Trophy'. with no championships I will be staging a car based TT like the Motorbike one, for my own personal amusement with my favorite cars.
Great track. It doesn't make up for no championships, but it'll do.
Great track. It doesn't make up for no championships, but it'll do.
