Project CARS General Discussion Thread

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I think it would be a good thing to drop the older consoles. You would not be getting the same game on a PS3 as will be seen on the PC. I'm guessing the new consoles will be some kind of powerhouse that will be on par with a mid level PC.
 
Was really looking forward to playing this on PS3, guess I can wait to play it on the PS4.

I should add that I would wait if they look to cancel it on current gen.

Would Project C.A.R.S. be the official name anyway?
 
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Seems some of you guys keep forgetting that at the moment, its only a discussion and not yet a confirmed decision. I'd like to at least see what the final verdict is before I come to any conclusion.
 
It will be a big decision for sure. In the end it'll depend on what you think is wise in the long run (your "run"). The most important thing being anyway in the end, it'll be a voted decision (weighted of course) so we'll be in the same boat and we'll see the result of our own decision.

Personally I haven't decided yet but I have to say that I do feel it makes a lot sense to bring up such a question for us to think about.
 
This is why I suggested the posts were deleted, it's going to cause a discussion that hasn't even been settled on the WMD forums yet.
 
Well some will always jump over important parts.. no one should worry too much about that. This is game development bare naked, some just can't tell the difference.

Would Project C.A.R.S. be the official name anyway?

Not necessarily!*





















*doesn't mean it'll change.
 
pCARS is going to face off against GT6/7 on PS4 anyway. They've got themselves in quite the pickle. The Wii2 should just be dumped all together. Nintendo has 2 feet in the grave. They'd be better off just making games for their handheld and the 2 "real" consoles.
 
Would Project C.A.R.S. be the official name anyway?
Not necessarily!*

*doesn't mean it'll change.
This was taken from a recent interview.

Will the Project CARS remain a final title for the project? Or do you still reconsider some other potential names for the finished game?

Ha, there's a discussion thread about this already. Originally it was just a codename but it's gotten so much traction nowadays, so many Google hits etc.. that we may actually end up with it! :-)
 
Surely "C.A.R.S." would work just fine (assuming Disney interactive doesn't throw a hissy fit).
 
This was taken from a recent interview.

Will the Project CARS remain a final title for the project? Or do you still reconsider some other potential names for the finished game?

Ha, there's a discussion thread about this already. Originally it was just a codename but it's gotten so much traction nowadays, so many Google hits etc.. that we may actually end up with it! :-)

Yes I've seen that just 10 mins ago and it's 100% in line with what I said a moment ago. The best possible decision will be done together regarding the name as well as any other thing.
 
I'm all for the move away from PS3/360

360 will be 9 years old when pcars drops. Probably difficult for the devs to bridge the gap. Way too many driving already exist on those platforms and they're going for cheap prices.

Previous consoles have dried up software sales 6-12 months into the new consoles, they become bargain hunters systems and hand me downs, used game heaven. Lets not forget this isn't some staggered launch by a year, both are most likely coming before the end of the year, competing and after this long the media focus will be on them. The people who buy full price games will sure to be moving over. Only stuff like Grand theft Auto have a chance and attach rate can be really good on new consoles for new good quality ip's.
 
You say this like it is a bad thing.

I have to admit, it hasn't resulted in the knee-jerking OMGHOWCANITNOTBEONPS3NAOZOMG!!!11!! that I was expecting, but with a perceived lack of statistic-assisted direction, felt that perhaps it should have been contained a little. However, it's out now, and we can discuss it more.
 
It makes sense to focus on next gen if the game is expected to be released Q2 2014, plus considering the development was focussed mostly on PC. Good call from SMS.
 
Also think forward for the devs and selling this game, the sales do carry on and mean something one year in and even two years. Assuming 2015 summer is a year on from pcar launch, the PS3/360 will be completely dead by then. When I bought my PS3 a year in, the launch games were still selling well at high prices
 
I'm all for the move away from PS3/360

360 will be 9 years old when pcars drops. Probably difficult for the devs to bridge the gap. Way too many driving already exist on those platforms and they're going for cheap prices.
Around 150 million PS3+360 have been sold. The large installed base was one of their original reasons to release on these two platforms.

Also think forward for the devs and selling this game, the sales do carry on and mean something one year in and even two years. Assuming 2015 summer is a year on from pcar launch, the PS3/360 will be completely dead by then. When I bought my PS3 a year in, the launch games were still selling well at high prices
We don't know how fast PS4/XB1 will grow and PS3/360 will decline.
You have some points but I think it's a big risk to drop PS3/360 now.
 
Around 150 million PS3+360 have been sold. The large installed base was one of their original reasons to release on these two platforms.



We don't know how fast PS4/XB1 will grow and PS3/360 will decline.
You have some points but I think it's a big risk to drop PS3/360 now.

Yes of course but situations change. back in 2011/12 you couldn't bank on when and what the new systems would be. If the expected 2014 roll out of next gen info was to play out then the PS3/360 would be the main focus for publishers and media in 2013/14. you would aim for gamers wanting anything while they wait for news of new stuff. Sony/MS have turned up with solid platform news in q1/q2 of 2013 and this changes everything.

PS2 had 130 million base, why do Ubisoft and others ignore that and count on 7 million xbox users and 3 million PS3 users? Also original xbox was a failure, 360 was completely turned but this wasn't expected and PS2 wasn't replaced until march 2007 worldwide (EU launch of PS3 March 2007). Now we have two solid platforms going at it this year after 9 years of current gen. All focus will be on the new stuff.

Why do games that are comparable not go up in sales with increased install base? So many games stick at 2-3 million in two years whether its 20million base or 70-140 million base. These extra people often don't buy new games.

By the way, just of note, usually consoles sell 7-10 million a year worldwide so you can expect that, they normally target that for the first year. Not saying new console will beat PS2 or PS3 year on year, we may see a decline as other ways of entertainment get better.

I should also note that I was weighing all this up in the past weeks, thinking how precarious a PS3/360 title would be in mid 2014, state of sales right now declining and half price within weeks . I was worried becasue I know how dead old systems are and we'll be many months into the new stuff. the game would be DOA and be cut down in price. I was considering getting in touch with someone at WMD to talk about it, looking at the money back thread even but they come up with the plan I was thinking of. In 2011 I thought how good pcars would be as a launch title for new tech, I expressed this opinion assuming the consoles would come out sooner than later and the game would probably slip which they both have.

SMS seemed to me to have a good head start in a higher end game and I thought back then they should keep new systems (should they appear) in mind and be ahead of the game in graphics etc.. and be the best alternative to GT and Forza on the new systems. You get that chance at launch, to establish an ip and have good sales in the 2-3 years in.
 
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pCARS is going to face off against GT6/7 on PS4 anyway.
I hope they drop the PS3/360 and go straight to the Next-Gen consoles, hopefully they'll one up PD/TT and be able to support triple screens on a single console(which really shouldn't be a problem on the new hardware).
 
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pCARS is going to face off against GT6/7 on PS4 anyway.

Unless you mean by sheer comparison of the fact they're both going to be on the same console, explain to me how pCARS is going to be facing off against something that doesn't even exist yet.

They've got themselves in quite the pickle.

They have?

The Wii2 should just be dumped all together. Nintendo has 2 feet in the grave. They'd be better off just making games for their handheld and the 2 "real" consoles.

Pray tell, what constitutes a "real" console, and while you're at it, explain why support for the Wii U should be dropped.
 
pCARS is going to face off against GT6/7 on PS4 anyway.

Except there's two things wrong with that:

-GT6 is a confirmed PS3 title

-GT7 doesn't exist at the moment

So its not going against either.


Pray tell, what constitutes a "real" console, and while you're at it, explain why support for the Wii U should be dropped.

I never quite understood the whole "Nintendo is dead" Doomday speak. Ok so they haven't hit well with the Wii-U yet, but "dead" seems abit jumping to conclusions.
 
Here's a vid of the dynamic flatspots that just fall out of the tire model (nothing is prebaked). Don't mind the close to zero grip while on full skidding - the tire is a brand new version straight out of the tire dev cave, it'll get fixed naturally in due time.

You really feel the flatspots - look closely to the FFB meter (the yellow line above). So far so good.

The first part is obviously without the spots and the second part I do major damage on the tires.. (it's somewhat magnified here to say the least :P)

 
Little Zonda fun :P

Thanks Kelnor34 for the sweeFX settings (DX9 which I don't usually use but fraps doesn't like sweet FX with DX11)

 
has the gt40 always felt this strange? I'm going to do some laps in other tires/cars hmmm. i get lots of liftoff oversteer and oversteer when cornering
 
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