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- Curitiba
Project CARS - Logitech Wheels NOT Supported on PS4
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- 2,232
- Lincolnshire
- PleaseD1e
Apparently it did actually work.
- 2,150
- Milan, Italy
- paulpg87
that g29 (if true) looks really ugly but surely two things will be good:
- reliability cause it's a logitech and it's clearly made of pieces of other old wheels well tested and used
- probably price cause it's made of old parts
I expect it to be in the range of 200€ or even less.
Given that for several evident reasons i do not think they will add compatibility with older wheels.
However i might ask for a refund on amazon for myt300 and shift money to this g29. just for reliability.
- reliability cause it's a logitech and it's clearly made of pieces of other old wheels well tested and used
- probably price cause it's made of old parts
I expect it to be in the range of 200€ or even less.
Given that for several evident reasons i do not think they will add compatibility with older wheels.
However i might ask for a refund on amazon for myt300 and shift money to this g29. just for reliability.
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- United States
Tired Tyres
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- 12,560
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- Tired_Tyres
- Tired Tyres
Really? That means there's more chance of you buying a G29 than me ever buying anything from Thrustmaster. I simply don't trust the brand at all.
- 508
- United States
If you want buy a wheel with no support, and incompatible to the best Gaming Console on the market that is up to you LOL!
, I have a cheap little Thrustmaster T80 and contrary to all the FFB advocates, it is a great wheel that gets the job done at 1/4 the price of the T300, I may get a Thurstmaster T300 when GT7 is released, but NEVER A Logitech, I don't race PC, only PS4 Console, Thrustmaster stands behind their products, and to me that is priority ONE! 
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- Tired_Tyres
- Tired Tyres
Good luck with the reliability of that Thrustmaster wheel mate. My DFGT has lasted a long time and is just as good now as it was the day I got it.
- 2,232
- Lincolnshire
- PleaseD1e
Don't expect that to last forever, business plans do change and Thrustmaster could disappear from the gaming wheel market just as quickly as Logitech did. Things change.
- 2,969
- Curitiba
I always saw Thrustmaster as an overhyped brand and didn't think too much about their products. I was sure about this: "just an over priced, over estimated and glorified racing wheel".
Until I bought one. Seriously, the T500RS makes the G27 looks like a childish toy. The build quality, the performance and the support (firmwares and whatnot) are miles, light years, ahead of anything I've experienced with Logitech during my time with a G27.
I know that my opinion won't change your mind about this (especially if you are stubborn as I am
), but trust me, Logitech are cool because of the price, meaning that more people can enjoy FFB on racing games, but that's it. It can't stand any serious comparisson with anything that I've seen from Thrustmaster.
- 2,858
- Australia
It depends on priorities I suppose. I would choose the T500 in a heartbeat over a G27. Biggest thing for me - the motor. It retails for around $100, and so is a massive percentage of what a buyer is shelling out. The G27 motors would be worth less than $10 I'd wager. Going over to the T300/TX, one gets a brushless motor, which ups the ante for smoothness. Each of the three TM wheels has the G27 covered for smoothness regardless, with belt drive.
The G27 shines for it's low drag levels, but really, where it once was the go to "sure thing" recommendation, it's gradually becoming the wheel that people buy when they can't afford better - or don't realise how much better, better really is.
- 3,804
I've not seen a Thrustmaster up close but thats what i have always seen people say about it in cmparison to the G27, That it makes it look like a toy. I have the G27 and people bang on about it having a leather rim which i actually find horrible, The feel of it. I wear weight lifting gloves when i use it (just had them handy) also the paddle shifters feel rather sharp. I do love it though and the one thing it has done for me is make me want a better wheel when i buy new.I always saw Thrustmaster as an overhyped brand and didn't think too much about their products. I was sure about this: "just an over priced, over estimated and glorified racing wheel".
Until I bought one. Seriously, the T500RS makes the G27 looks like a childish toy. The build quality, the performance and the support (firmwares and whatnot) are miles, light years, ahead of anything I've experienced with Logitech during my time with a G27.
I know that my opinion won't change your mind about this (especially if you are stubborn as I am
- 1,324
- Vancouver, BC
- Awong124
I think the leather G27 rim feels way better than the plastic T300 rim. I'm going to have to get the leather TM 28 rim at some point.
- 1,324
- Vancouver, BC
- Awong124
Rubber/soft plastic. To me the injection molding seam on the inside and outside of the rim is a little off-putting. And the slightly sticky feeling of the texture of the rubber isn't very nice either. It seems pretty durable, so I'm not concerned about wear.
Better than the skin on the inside of your thumbs.
That is actually a really good point, as the inside of my thumbs actually feel a little chafed after playing on the T300 for a while. The stitching of the leather on the G27 also chafed, but not as much.
- 2,232
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- PleaseD1e
Better than the skin on the inside of your thumbs.
👍I wish that I knew someone with a T300, I'd like to try one just out of curiosity. I don't want a T300, but it would be nice to know how much better the FFB is.
When people say, "it's far superior / miles better than a G27" etc, usually that's because they have shelled out and bought the T300 which could make them slightly biased or be suffering from the placebo effect.
It's a shame that the retailers in the UK very rarely have anything like this setup as a demo in the shop. It would be nice to feel it for myself.
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- FLX81
Call me a wussie, but I started to use my biking gloves shortly after buying my T300.
@Ian_83 : The FFB is superior in every way imagineable. Its stronger, much faster to respond, much smoother (RRRRRRRRR vs clackclackclackgrindgrindclack) and much more silent. I m not 100% sold on longevity and cant comment on the pedals since I never used them but in every other way, the T300 annihilates the G27.
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- United States
With me I follow the philosophy "You are only as good as your last deal" So as we stand today, Thrustmaster is a good company.
And Thrustmaster has a new Add-On wheel, "TM Leather 28 GT' if you want a leather wrapped wheel.
I always saw Thrustmaster as an overhyped brand and didn't think too much about their products. I was sure about this: "just an over priced, over estimated and glorified racing wheel".
Until I bought one. Seriously, the T500RS makes the G27 looks like a childish toy. The build quality, the performance and the support (firmwares and whatnot) are miles, light years, ahead of anything I've experienced with Logitech during my time with a G27.
I know that my opinion won't change your mind about this (especially if you are stubborn as I am
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- Netherlands
- skazz-race
- skazzracer
To give you an idea... I own a G25 and used it continuously as PC wheel between 2008 and 2014. In the meantime I bought (and still own) a DFGT, Fanatec GT2 and Thrustmaster T500 for console use. I tried the GT2 as a replacement for my G25, but didn't like the sluggishness or the ergonomics so it remained purely for Forza and Gran Turismo. I tried the T500 for PC use and while very decent it has a bit more resistance (and approximately double the power) and I found myself still preferring the G25 for PC racing, since it was easier to correct slides due to the agility (despite being less convincing as an experience than the T500).
I wish that I knew someone with a T300, I'd like to try one just out of curiosity. I don't want a T300, but it would be nice to know how much better the FFB is.
When people say, "it's far superior / miles better than a G27" etc, usually that's because they have shelled out and bought the T300 which could make them slightly biased or be suffering from the placebo effect..
Then in 2014 I bought the T300 alongside the T500, as potential G25 replacement. Within a few hours I was sold... The T300 is only 1.5x as powerful as the G25 but in all ways it feels better to me: smoother, no rattle, faster spinning but crucially just as agile and easy to correct oversteer. The shifter paddles are much better, the pedals are pretty crap but more useable than DFGT ones.
I really have no vested interest in talking up a wheel, since I can't bring myself to sell them and so currently own 5 wheels... Right now I'd rate the T500 as my favorite driving experience and the T300 as the wheel I use when I want to have the most control over a car (holding slides, drifting, feeling the limits of grip).
Believe me, if the T300 had been worse than my G25 I would still be running the G25 with my PC.
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- skazz-race
- skazzracer
Doubtful... It would have to be a clear step up from the T300 (I.e. Belt drive with high quality modern bearings, brushless motor, more powerful). And the shifter would have to compete with a TH8A, too....
But if Logitech managed all that for less than CSWv2 money, I'd be hugely surprised!
- 2,858
- Australia
The gap in ffb level would gradually widen though, with the brushless motor generating far less heat, and therefore ffb fade. Then again G25/27 will have high relative resistance levels with their minimal mechanical damping allowing for a lower ffb base level. So if we call no drag a level 0, a G27 might have level 2 to 10 feel-able ffb range, a T300 maybe level 5 to 15. After some use that might change to G27 - 2 to 8, T300 - 5 to 14.
Then the other thing is "fudge factor". When mechanical damping actually helps it feel more real, because it smooths the ffb effects. So a T500 might range from level 6 to 20, in which case I'm not surprised at all that you'd rate it the most enjoyable driving experience wheel. It has the widest range, but also sits where the smoothing of the ffb aids the suspension of disbelief. A Fanatec Turbo/GT2/GT3/CSR by contrast will have the benefit of the mechanical damping without the upper range that the T500 enjoys. I'm fortunate enough to have an ECCI 7000, which might range from a 6 to a 30 in feel-able forces.
Something like the Accuforce is a completely different beast again, removing the reliance on a game's/sim's ffb output, and having the ability to intercept the physics data and generate it's own tune-able ffb. This means that there's no upside to having any mechanical damper, and it appears to have very little. Short of a Bodnar wheel, I can only assume it has the highest range available, and pretty much infinite possibilities. Funnily enough, if someone could be bothered, I imagine it would be possible to reproduce the feel of every other wheel on the market and create a preset for them.
This video shows the incredible fidelity.....
Shockingly, this wheel is an utter bargain at US$1700. It's probably the best bang for buck out there..... it just requires a lot of bucks.
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- Mumbai,India
- rambo793
Hello!
Some of you may know me from over on the 'Throwing Digital Sheep' thread here on the Project CARS forums. I'm quite aware of how, especially for those looking to jump into the sim-racing genre on consoles for the first time, difficult deciding upon a racing wheel is. Especially when most of them are pretty hardcore on the wallet. Deciding to take matters into my own hands and somehow enable Playstation 4 owners to make that choice, I decided to get in touch with Thrustmaster and Fanatec with the aim of evaluating their most affordable PS4 compatible products as per Project CARS for now. And thankfully, Thrustmaster have stepped into this with me by sending me T300 Ferrari GTE to evaluate first.
Of course, this is something I would want to do from the perspective of those still dubious about buying a wheel and so I'm looking to collect concerns regarding the T300 Ferrari GTE from you all so that I can address and assess those in my final reviewm which I believe should be of massive help to some of you. Complete details can be found here or on the 'Throwing Digital Sheep Project Cars Coverage Thread' on this here forums.
Thanks
Some of you may know me from over on the 'Throwing Digital Sheep' thread here on the Project CARS forums. I'm quite aware of how, especially for those looking to jump into the sim-racing genre on consoles for the first time, difficult deciding upon a racing wheel is. Especially when most of them are pretty hardcore on the wallet. Deciding to take matters into my own hands and somehow enable Playstation 4 owners to make that choice, I decided to get in touch with Thrustmaster and Fanatec with the aim of evaluating their most affordable PS4 compatible products as per Project CARS for now. And thankfully, Thrustmaster have stepped into this with me by sending me T300 Ferrari GTE to evaluate first.
Of course, this is something I would want to do from the perspective of those still dubious about buying a wheel and so I'm looking to collect concerns regarding the T300 Ferrari GTE from you all so that I can address and assess those in my final reviewm which I believe should be of massive help to some of you. Complete details can be found here or on the 'Throwing Digital Sheep Project Cars Coverage Thread' on this here forums.
Thanks
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- WyldAnimal_
Ahh A better Thread more on topic.
I had added this here:
https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/threads/project-cars-patch-may-29th.329417/#post-10737458
but it was in the Xbox thread.
Patch 1.4 will soon hit the PS4, and I predict that it will bring legacy logitech Wheel Support to pCars.
I had added this here:
https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/threads/project-cars-patch-may-29th.329417/#post-10737458
but it was in the Xbox thread.
Patch 1.4 will soon hit the PS4, and I predict that it will bring legacy logitech Wheel Support to pCars.
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Ian Bell talk about patch 1.4 for PS4
http://forum.projectcarsgame.com/sh...Update-for-PS4&p=952793&viewfull=1#post952793
http://forum.projectcarsgame.com/sh...Update-for-PS4&p=952793&viewfull=1#post952793
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