PS3 General Discussion

thanks KENJI, though it seems like everyone was saying something different on there, what I gathered was that I need to hold down the power button for 5 seconds with the composite cables hooked up and it will verify if I want to change to 480i, correct?
 
Yes, after you turn on the PS3, hold down the power button until you hear a "bip", and you should get the picture on your TV.
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Only a rumor, but it's kinda funny:

Halo on the PS3, not 360 (thanks to Bluray)

There's a rumor going around that the Fox movie company has picked up the primary license rights to the Halo movie, a move which has made many people cheer since there were worries the movie would never see the light of day. If the rumor turns out to be correct though, it brings up an interesting point -- Fox is exclusive to Blu-ray and they'd be the ones publishing the title when it was released. Also, Microsoft has come out previously and explicitly said that they will not be releasing a Blu-ray add-on for the 360, leaving Xbox 360 owners high and dry if they want to watch the HD treatment of their ambrosia.

So will PlayStation 3 owners have exclusive access to Halo the movie when it is released? The irony would be so delicious that Peter Moore's head would explode -- but things are a little too early to be sure about anything when it comes to the Halo movie. And anyway, regardless of which format it is released, Microsoft is going to find someway to get a HD version to 360 owners. Even if it means caving in and admitting Blu-ray dominance.
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Jeremy Ricci, I saw your comments about Flow when you were first playing it and I am curious about the game. Now that it is months later has it held up its fun or does it not stand a test of time? I'm thinking of getting it but I hate a game that I end up never playing after a month or two.


This gave me an idea:

After doing a search and having to read back to a vague reference in April and then going all the way back to February I finally found some information about Flow. I also found professional reviews online, but as everyone knows those can be hit or miss and are nearly more fanboyish than fan reviews.

So, I had an idea for a game review thread for each of the new systems. With the new downloadable games available for $10 or less on each system now we are at risk of having large lumps of cheap crap handed to us or hidden gems that don't appear like they should be worth $7 or $10 and may get overlooked. Having just got my PS3 I find myself searching for comments on the different PS Store games because I can't rent them and some don't have demos.

I imagine it would be kind of like the What Movies have You Seen Lately thread where people say what they saw, give it a rating and a brief summary of what they think. I know that thread made me watch Rocky Balboa when I was planning to otherwise avoid it. Plus, people there debate whether they liked things or not and I am sure that a few people will find games to discuss in depth.

So, do I have an idea here or am I looking at a thread that is destined to be closed faster than the Random Thread thread?
 
Jeremy Ricci, I saw your comments about Flow when you were first playing it and I am curious about the game. Now that it is months later has it held up its fun or does it not stand a test of time? I'm thinking of getting it but I hate a game that I end up never playing after a month or two.

You can complete it in a few hours, and it doesn't have much (if any) replay value. IMO it's not worth the $8.


This gave me an idea:

After doing a search and having to read back to a vague reference in April and then going all the way back to February I finally found some information about Flow. I also found professional reviews online, but as everyone knows those can be hit or miss and are nearly more fanboyish than fan reviews.

So, I had an idea for a game review thread for each of the new systems. With the new downloadable games available for $10 or less on each system now we are at risk of having large lumps of cheap crap handed to us or hidden gems that don't appear like they should be worth $7 or $10 and may get overlooked. Having just got my PS3 I find myself searching for comments on the different PS Store games because I can't rent them and some don't have demos.

I imagine it would be kind of like the What Movies have You Seen Lately thread where people say what they saw, give it a rating and a brief summary of what they think. I know that thread made me watch Rocky Balboa when I was planning to otherwise avoid it. Plus, people there debate whether they liked things or not and I am sure that a few people will find games to discuss in depth.

So, do I have an idea here or am I looking at a thread that is destined to be closed faster than the Random Thread thread?

The 360 has a demo for every XBLA game (and a demo for every full release worth its salt) so that won't need anything. With the Wii, it has classic games most people have generally played before. So those two systems probably don't need anything of this sort.

With the PS3, however, it seems like a good idea. 👍

Here's the problem I see, though: let's say a game doesn't have a demo, and it doesn't look all that appealing to begin with (say, the recent Midway classics). Who would actually buy it in the first place in order to report back to others? Granted, this wouldn't be a problem with more anticipated releases like, say, Calling all Cars, but it's still a problem.
 
I don't figure that its a big deal since at least one of the regular posters here must buy pretty much everything that comes out
 
For games that I'm on the fence about, I usually wait to read reviews. I might not buy it, but someone else will, and that person will tell everyone else what he thought of it.

I picked up Flow when it was on sale for five bucks. I haven't even finished it yet, but I've enjoyed it quite a bit while playing it. It's a good game to just kick back and relax with. If you're looking for deep gameplay, look elsewhere, but Flow is a great way to pass the time.
 
Duċk;2692986
The 360 has a demo for every XBLA game (and a demo for every full release worth its salt) so that won't need anything. With the Wii, it has classic games most people have generally played before. So those two systems probably don't need anything of this sort.
At the same time some games aren't worth their salt, but manage to market themselves well. While, yes, the Wii has classic games not everyone is old enough to have played them (God, I'm old) and might not know that Zelda II was the worst of the series and the hype Nintendo put around its release as the 100th game was just that, hype. Or, in my case, the only Nintendo system I owned before now was a SNES and then I think I had maybe five games. Guess which system 90% of my VC purchases have come from. I have to ask my Nintendo fanboy friend what N64 games are good.

With the PS3, however, it seems like a good idea. 👍
Well, I would probably start here and if anyone else wanted to emulate my thread for the other systems I would let them. Plus, I think anyone with multiple systems could give a compare and contrast of the third-party games so those trying to determine which to buy could make a decision based on the genre of games they prefer.

Here's the problem I see, though: let's say a game doesn't have a demo, and it doesn't look all that appealing to begin with (say, the recent Midway classics). Who would actually buy it in the first place in order to report back to others? Granted, this wouldn't be a problem with more anticipated releases like, say, Calling all Cars, but it's still a problem.
You just sort of countered your Wii argument by using the Midway Classics as an example. But, again I think that some people are not old enough to have played Joust (and I am really old). For me it is worth the $5. It is still a better value than 99% of the VC games. And then some people never played Medieval (what's wrong with you?) or Syphon Filter (guilty) and finding out which PS One games are worth $5 and which ones aren't may be helpful. Plus, as with the VC games, some of these may not work with the new system well (I am thinking Classics, not PS One) and others may do it very well.

On top of all that I think that if anyone were curious about a specific game, as I was with Flow, they could just request for someone to give their opinion (after searching first, of course).


Jedi2016
For games that I'm on the fence about, I usually wait to read reviews. I might not buy it, but someone else will, and that person will tell everyone else what he thought of it.
I am the same way and I don't trust guys whose paychecks come from advertising budgest from gaming companies to be completely honest. I've even seen reviews for sports games, such as baseball, done by guys who start out saying they don't like baseball games. Thanks for the disclaimer buddy, but that makes your 2/5 rating even more confusing. Would it be higher if you liked baseball?


Even with Gamefly there are too many games to rent them all and try them out. Trust me, my Game Q keeps growing and having two new systems doesn't help.
 
Duċk;2693073
http://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=567411

Here's an interview with the guys who make the system firmware updates. Very insightful.
Indeed. I didn't know about this yet:

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Linking to games, the 360 has a feature to allow music in the HDD and network to be played back as game BGM.

K1
PS3 already has such function in the system software. It is up to the game developers to use the function. Same goes for pictures and videos.
 
This month's color for the XMB looks awesome. The blue looks best early in the morning.

Definitely. I know that I was really sick of the pink one, whenever that was...Blue looks just right. They should have it be different each day, I think.
 
It seems like Beautiful Katamari is 360 exclusive for the time being. It's exclusive for the worst console it could be available for. I won't buy it now, sucks to be Namco. 👎
 
It seems like Beautiful Katamari is 360 exclusive for the time being. It's exclusive for the worst console it could be available for. I won't buy it now, sucks to be Namco. 👎

It hasn't had glowing previews, though. There was a bunch of disappointment when they officially showed it off a few weeks ago, so you're not exactly missing out on anything.
 
Is Microsoft trying too hard? Surely like AC6 they are paying out for exclusivity. But I dont think it will work in their favor with Katamari. Viva Pinata did how well?
 
Is Microsoft trying too hard? Surely like AC6 they are paying out for exclusivity. But I dont think it will work in their favor with Katamari. Viva Pinata did how well?
Well, I'm guessing Microsoft threw out one of their moneyhats to Namco, and Katamari was part of the deal.

Besides, if what GameSpot said was true, it'll probably be an XBLA game so it's not going to be some extremely niche $60 game that'll bomb.
DWA
Yeah but... but... that's... Viva (you know how I know you're gay?) Pinata. :dopey:

I'm guessing you saw an image of VP, crapped on it, and went back to the bald space marines.

You should give it a serious try. It's extremely fun and one of the best titles on the 360, unless you hate builder games with a passion.
 
Track list for SingStar for PS3:

  • Blink 182 - All The Small Things
  • Blur - Coffee & TV
  • Britney Spears - Toxic
  • Coldplay - Fix You
  • Gorillaz - Feel Good Inc.
  • Gwen Stefani - Cool
  • Junior Senior - Move Your Feet
  • Macy Gray - I Try
  • Musical Youth - Pass The Dutchie
  • Ne-Yo - So Sick
  • Orson - No Tomorrow
  • OutKast - Hey Ya
  • Primal Scream - Movin' On Up
  • Pussycat Dolls - Beep
  • Radiohead - No Surprises
  • Razorlight - America
  • REM - Losing My Religion
  • Robbie Williams and Nicole Kidman - Something Stupid
  • Scissor Sisters - I Don't Feel Like Dancing
  • Supergrass - Alright
  • The Automatic - Monster
  • The Cardigans - Lovefool
  • The Fratellis - Chelsea Dagger
  • The Killers - Mr Brightside
  • The Stone Roses - She Bangs The Drums
  • The Zutons - Valerie
  • Twisted Sister - We're Not Gonna Take It
  • U2 - Beautiful Day
  • Weezer - Buddy Holly
  • Wolfmother - Love Train
Looks good to me, I think I'm going to import it. My friends will love it.
 
I am the same way and I don't trust guys whose paychecks come from advertising budgest from gaming companies to be completely honest.

Yeah, but you can usually spot those a mile away because the whole "review" sounds like an advertising pitch. Even moreso when you compare it to an actual non-biased review.


FoolKiller
I've even seen reviews for sports games, such as baseball, done by guys who start out saying they don't like baseball games. Thanks for the disclaimer buddy, but that makes your 2/5 rating even more confusing. Would it be higher if you liked baseball?

I don't get those reviews AT ALL. If you don't like a certain type of game to begin with, then why are you the one picked to review it?!?. Here's a shocker... people who don't like baseball games don't buy baseball games. Reviews are written for the people that WILL buy the game, or at the very least are very interested in buying the game. Which means they DO like the subject matter. The least they could do is pick a reviewer that's like-minded to the people who will actually want to buy that particular game.

Reminds me of a "review" I read of the Transformers game. For one, he was playing an early partial build. Secondly, he flat-out lied at several points in the review, claiming that certain features were missing (when other people who were at the same preview event confirmed those features were there). The guy might as well have put one of those disclaimers at the beginning saying "I hated this game from the moment I heard of it." You could tell he was nitpicking the holy hell out of it because he wanted it to look bad. Granted, I may be slightly jaded by my enthusiasm for the game, but still... There comes a point where even bias gives way to common sense and you just sit back and say "WTF?".
 
Yeah, but you can usually spot those a mile away because the whole "review" sounds like an advertising pitch. Even moreso when you compare it to an actual non-biased review.
Or they go the complete opposite direction because EA is an advertiser and they are reviewing a 2K series game.

I don't get those reviews AT ALL. If you don't like a certain type of game to begin with, then why are you the one picked to review it?!?. Here's a shocker... people who don't like baseball games don't buy baseball games. Reviews are written for the people that WILL buy the game, or at the very least are very interested in buying the game. Which means they DO like the subject matter. The least they could do is pick a reviewer that's like-minded to the people who will actually want to buy that particular game.

Reminds me of a "review" I read of the Transformers game. For one, he was playing an early partial build. Secondly, he flat-out lied at several points in the review, claiming that certain features were missing (when other people who were at the same preview event confirmed those features were there). The guy might as well have put one of those disclaimers at the beginning saying "I hated this game from the moment I heard of it." You could tell he was nitpicking the holy hell out of it because he wanted it to look bad. Granted, I may be slightly jaded by my enthusiasm for the game, but still... There comes a point where even bias gives way to common sense and you just sit back and say "WTF?".
Well Transformers is a game based off a movie, based (VERY loosely) off a cartoon, based off a comic, based off a toy line. Really, that has all the markers of bad, although the footage does look good. I just never trust movie-based games because they are notorious for being rushed. Spiderman 3 is a perfect example of this. My brother-in-law bought that and I actually watched where the thing he was supposed to pick up just disappeared everytime he walked up to it and the timer was running down.

Although a review could be worse where the reviewer obviously never played the game. My local paper, which is owned by Gannet and so this may have been syndicated, had the tech guy reviewing either GT2 or GT3, I can't remember which, but he gave it a low score saying it wasn't very realistic at all because when he drives his Ferrari down a windy road it doesn't feel anything like the one in the game. I didn't know whether the review or him owning a Ferrari was the bigger BS.



Anyway, I think I will create the thread later tonight, unless a mod suggests otherwise before then.
 
"the tech guy reviewing either GT2 or GT3, I can't remember which, but he gave it a low score saying it wasn't very realistic at all because when he drives his Ferrari down a windy road it doesn't feel anything like the one in the game."

There was a Ferrari in GT2 or GT3? Either I don't remember one being there, or the guy was actually reviewing Forza. If that is the case, then I believe he owns a Ferrari, and I agree with his assessment regarding the physics in that game.
 
There was a Ferrari in GT2 or GT3? Either I don't remember one being there, or the guy was actually reviewing Forza. If that is the case, then I believe he owns a Ferrari, and I agree with his assessment regarding the physics in that game.
That's my point, the guy BS'd his review and revealed it by talking about a Ferrari in the game, which didn't exist. Sure my friend and I noticed, but those who never played the game saw it got a bad review and thought it must be a bad driving sim.

Fortunately, the gamers that mattered didn't get their info from the newspaper tech guy.
 
Well Transformers is a game based off a movie, based (VERY loosely) off a cartoon, based off a comic, based off a toy line. Really, that has all the markers of bad, although the footage does look good. I just never trust movie-based games because they are notorious for being rushed. Spiderman 3 is a perfect example of this. My brother-in-law bought that and I actually watched where the thing he was supposed to pick up just disappeared everytime he walked up to it and the timer was running down.

The problem is that some people see previews for a game, they should know what the game is all about, and then get all pissy when it turns out to be exactly what it always advertised itself as.

I'm not after Game of the Year material with Transformers... I'm after a game where I can be a big transforming robot blowing the hell out of everything around me. And on that front, the game delivers.
 
I'm not after Game of the Year material with Transformers... I'm after a game where I can be a big transforming robot blowing the hell out of everything around me. And on that front, the game delivers.
If it turns out to be relatively glitch free I will probably check it out myself, but Spiderman 3 was near unplayable, especially when some glitches prevented you from completing missions.

My favorite was when you would grab a terrorist bomb or a weapons cache and hand it to random people on the street because the game forgot to give them the police skin. Even better was when it was a skinny white woman who sounded like Patrice O'neal.

Movie games are just notoriously bad unless the developers are given proper preperation time and aren't forced to meet the movie launch deadline.
 
Yeah, I know what you're saying. From what I've heard, the game runs fine on both next-gen consoles, glitch free, and rock-steady framerate. I specifically asked that question of one of the guys who played them, after reading reviews indicating that the PS3 port of Pirates of the Caribbean suffered from horrific framerate problems. He said he noticed no such problems with any versions of the game. Although reviews of the PSP version (which has already found it's way into stores) indicate some choppiness during transformations. The console versions of the game are being made by Traveller's Tales, and they're generally pretty good at what they do.

So as far as performance goes, I'm content with what I'm hearing, and I pre-ordered it online from Gamestop (free overnight shipping, so I still get it on Wednesday without having to drive any further than my mailbox). I'll put up a review in that new thread of yours next week. :)
 
I'll put up a review in that new thread of yours next week. :)
I was going to suggest that. Hopefully, it will be good but I already fear for the movie so my prejudice towards the game is stemming from that.
 
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