PS3 General Discussion

[Joey D]

xbox live average age of player = 12 years old.
PSN average age of player = about 19 years old.

xbox live just like all xbox fans are to young why do you think they support xbox they all most likely started gaming with the xbox and are very young and annoying.

I don't really agree with this statement, I started gaming on a Sega Genesis back in the day and currently I quite enjoy my 360.

 

[LaBounti]

^yeah because you have 9million Xbox Live accounts.....

Thanks Tig. Not as funny as the Format wars and waay too much profanity. The humor gets diluted with "F" bombs.

 

[Joey D]

I'm pretty sure he said "all xbox fans are to young", which is untrue and therefore I do not agree with it.

 

[LaBounti]

How do you get "all" from "average"? I'm just saying. I don't know if its true but I would guess there are more younger people on "average" with Live accounts than PSN accounts since it is a cheaper console thats been out for 2 years.

 

[Joey D]

How do you get "all" from "average"? I'm just saying. I don't know if its true but I would guess there are more younger people on "average" with Live accounts than PSN accounts since it is a cheaper console thats been out for 2 years.

From this...

xbox live just like all xbox fans are to young why do you think they support xbox they all most likely started gaming with the xbox and are very young and annoying.

 

[LaBounti]

But he starts out by saying "average". You don't honestly think he means "all" do you? Clearly its an exaggeration.

 

[Joey D]

I don't know it was a poorly written statement and quite confusing. But that is how I read it since it said "all xbox fans are to young". I take that as him saying anyone who likes Xbox is an annoying 12 year old which is incorrect...therefore I do not agree with his statement. I don't see what the problem is here.

 

[LaBounti]

My only interest was how you used yourself as a reference to determine the average age of live users , not that he says all users are 12 year old kids. Thats all.

 

[Drillah]

LOL!
you're both acting about 12 years old right now.

 

[Robin]

here we go again!...

 

[Joey D]

What I don't understand is why people are so dead set against the Xbox 360? I might not like the game selection on the PS3, which is my opinion and something I need to live with, but that does not make it a bad piece of technology. It can do things that the 360 can not such as play Blue Ray movies, go on the internet through a browser, and charge the controller through the unit itself. The sheer fact that it can play Blue Ray movies thrills me to own on right now because watching documentaries and movies in high definition is amazing.

Calling people who like Xbox all immature annoying 12 year olds is not a way to defend your love for the PS3, just like calling all PS3 fans stuck up asshats isn't going to help the defense of a 360. Both systems have their strengths and weaknesses and I am glad I do own both since they serve completely different purposes. I mean if I want to play a game I can flick on the 360 and play for hours (with changing the batteries out quite frequently) but at the end of the day when I want to kick back and watch a movie the Xbox just doesn't have the stones to compete with the PS3...even in watching DVD movies.

As I've said the only thing I have ever had against the PS3 is it's poor game selection and the initial price (which I did pay so it's not that much of an issue). I don't hate it although as some member may have made it look like I have.

 

[FoolKiller]

What I don't understand is why people are so dead set against the Xbox 360?

Because everyone hates the HAL 9000

Calling people who like Xbox all immature annoying 12 year olds is not a way to defend your love for the PS3, just like calling all PS3 fans stuck up asshats isn't going to help the defense of a 360.

Honestly, I believe you are looking too much into his exaggeration.

From personal experience and even online videos posted I can say that by the end of it that is how it feels. Sure, in Warhawk you will occasionally get a guy that cusses non-stop or something. Usually the rest of his team will shout him down and tell him to shut up or go away. I have found the most effective comment to be that he needs to go play Halo if he wants to talk like that.

It seems when people complain about the behavior of other players PS3 stories start with, "We had this one guy..." and XBox stories start with, "Why is everyone such an asshat?" Even you described it similarly with Halo.

Honestly it could just be a case of more people playing means more people being asshats.

Basically, don't take personal offense by his use of all. It was a broad generalization, yes, but I do think that if he specifically meant you he would have said it.

As I've said the only thing I have ever had against the PS3 is it's poor game selection.....

I'm curious what games you have played so far and what you actually like. For some reason I think you may be overly picky or just haven't tried the right games.

I mean, I like Pain and expected it to be horrible. Considering that I have had to sort my PSN stuff by folders to keep my games organized and quickly accessed I would say that there is a good deal of surprises out there for those willing to look.

That said, I have been burned twice by games I expected to be incredible on every level and have now even been bumped down my rental list below my wife's Sims and Nintendogz selections.

I also thought the gaming selection looked slim (on both systems actually), but I was looking for GT style racing games. It wasn't until I started following a few recommendations from members here that I got myself out of my rut. Now my wallet has a lack of selection.

I don't hate it although as some member may have made it look like I have.

If you are referring to what I think, I think it best if we all just let it go at this point so we don't risk people arguing about an argument.

If not, then ignore my poor assumption.

 

[Robin]

I also don't really like the 360 because of its reliability issues, I also don't like its design, quality of manufacture, paying for online and I'm not really a fan of the exclusive games but these are all personal preferences.

I wouldn't put it that 360 owners are immature but more like there is a younger demographics of 360 players than PS3 ones because of Sony's higher price and marketing strategy (aiming it at an older market). I wouldn't know what its like on xbox live but PSN has been great so far.

They are from two different worlds but when it comes to gaming, their common ground I feel that the PS3 is better to be honest...blu ray makes content literally limitless and the architecture seems a lot more future proof but again thats my opinion, it hasn't had its chance to truly shine yet.

Robin

 

[Joey D]

Because everyone hates the HAL 9000

I still believe a majority of Xbox problems stem from owners not taking proper care of their system. Mine broke because it fell off the table, which is no ones fault except my own. I was an idiot therefore I had to accept the consequences.

Honestly, I believe you are looking too much into his exaggeration.

He said all xbox owners are young and annoying, I did not agree with that assumption.

From personal experience and even online videos posted I can say that by the end of it that is how it feels. Sure, in Warhawk you will occasionally get a guy that cusses non-stop or something. Usually the rest of his team will shout him down and tell him to shut up or go away. I have found the most effective comment to be that he needs to go play Halo if he wants to talk like that.

Halo is really the only game on Xbox live I have ever experienced screaming kids on, but playing Forza, TD:U, PGR4, etc. I have never had a problem. You get the occasional idiot but like on PS3 they are told to go play Halo. I was never able to play Warhawk since it would never let me join a game and when it did I got booted for some reason. I lost interest in it real quick after that. It's probably better now and I do need to check it out again.

I'm curious what games you have played so far and what you actually like. For some reason I think you may be overly picky or just haven't tried the right games.

Motorstorm which I thought was awful and it seemed rather rushed and unfinished to me. The Formula One game that once I played through had no replay value so I traded it in. Resistance: Fall of Man, which didn't have a story line that really drew me in...it was like Halo, COD, and Half-Life all rolled into one but not really doing it for me. Uncharted: Drake's Fortune which had a story line I could not even remotely stand because of the idiocy of pot hunting. Warhawk which I have said I couldn't play because I would be booted from games or couldn't even connect. GTHD which was just a demo so I can't really say much about that.

As for game I enjoy racing games and RPG's for the most part. Mass Effect on the 360 is one of the better RPG's I have played and if something like that came out for the PS3 I would get it no questions asked. I just can not find anything I feel is worth buying on the PS3 except Blue Ray movies...which really is fine.

I also thought the gaming selection looked slim (on both systems actually), but I was looking for GT style racing games. It wasn't until I started following a few recommendations from members here that I got myself out of my rut. Now my wallet has a lack of selection.

When I go into Gamestop and there is a whole wall of 360 games but only a small section of PS3 games it's rather meh. The PS3 has been out long enough to where it should have a decent amount of games out for it that aren't on other systems or the PC.

If you are referring to what I think I think it best if we all just let it go at this point so we don't risk people arguing about an argument.

If not, then ignore my poor assumption.

I was not directing this at anyone in particular, I just feel that I have been incorrectly labeled a Xbox360 fanboy by some members because I prefer the games presently to the PS3.

 

[Speedster502]

Gosh, this thread has gone down hill.

 

[FoolKiller]

I still believe a majority of Xbox problems stem from owners not taking proper care of their system. Mine broke because it fell off the table, which is no ones fault except my own. I was an idiot therefore I had to accept the consequences.

I think if it was owner issues Microsoft wouldn't have owned up and paid up. I know a guy who collects consoles and games, has them all still in perfect working condition, and got a 360 from the pre-launch Mt. Dew giveaway. He's on his seventh console now. He got his last one after Microsoft owned up and it hasn't caused any problems so far. Anyone else and I would think it could be user created. Not that his single case is everyone, but he is an example of someone who knows how to care for his stuff.

Plus, if it were user created I believe we would see a 30%-70% (depending on who you ask) failure rate on all consoles and electronics as opposed to the industry expected ~3%.

Basically, the RROD and Microsoft admitting blame has caused people to back off that were on the fence and factor reliability into it. It made me decide to give it another year. Of course, my original XBox was free, so obviously I can wait.

He said all xbox owners are young and annoying, I did not agree with that assumption.

And I agree. I am just saying to not take offense because I don't think he meant any. If he comes on and says he did then I will eat my cold Egg McMuffin sitting on my desk right now.

Halo is really the only game on Xbox live I have ever experienced screaming kids on, but playing Forza, TD:U, PGR4, etc. I have never had a problem. You get the occasional idiot but like on PS3 they are told to go play Halo.

It may just be Halo, which points more to my theory that more total players = more immature players, so they find each other easier.

I was never able to play Warhawk since it would never let me join a game and when it did I got booted for some reason. I lost interest in it real quick after that. It's probably better now and I do need to check it out again.

Yeah that was a server side refresh rate issue. It was fixed a while back. Now that might only happen 1 out of 10 times to me and it is a case of only one spot being open on the server. Plus in the game server list the refresh button works now so you can update the info before trying to join.

As for getting booted, were you on a Sony server or private server? I have been booted and even banned from one private server because I join and it turns out to be a bunch of noobs or poor players and after I kill them all or snag flags they boot me. I have only gotten knocked off a Sony server when my wife decided to visit bandwidth hogging myspace pages. And her new Webkinz (WTH is that!?) seems to do it as well.

Motorstorm which I thought was awful and it seemed rather rushed and unfinished to me.

I didn't like it either, but for different reasons.

The Formula One game that once I played through had no replay value so I traded it in.

F1:CE? But it's online. Unless you weren't wanting that.

Resistance: Fall of Man, which didn't have a story line that really drew me in...it was like Halo, COD, and Half-Life all rolled into one but not really doing it for me.

I actually feel the story has an interesting take. I love the alternate history aspect. It kind of reminds me of some of the What If? comics. Otherwise, yeah it is still just another FPS, although it is well done in my opinion.

Uncharted: Drake's Fortune which had a story line I could not even remotely stand because of the idiocy of pot hunting.

We've covered this before. I understand your POV.

Warhawk which I have said I couldn't play because I would be booted from games or couldn't even connect.

I do suggest you try it again. Although you will have a server-side update or two when you log on.

GTHD which was just a demo so I can't really say much about that.

I take it you didn't get the Prologue demo?

As for game I enjoy racing games and RPG's for the most part.

Yeah, as far as exclusives go you probably are waiting then.

I would suggest checking out some of the PSN games. I am addicted to Super Stardust HD, which has a demo up. Those PSN games combined with older games that will also play on my PSP have managed to tap a direct line into my wallet.

 

[Giancarlo]

Joey why do you feel the need to defend your opinions on the PS3 in here? Do you think we're going to change our minds? Just leave it be, man.

You know the rule about internet fighting. And no, you're not arguing. You're fighting.

 

[Joey D]

As for getting booted, were you on a Sony server or private server? I have been booted and even banned from one private server because I join and it turns out to be a bunch of noobs or poor players and after I kill them all or snag flags they boot me. I have only gotten knocked off a Sony server when my wife decided to visit bandwidth hogging myspace pages. And her new Webkinz (WTH is that!?) seems to do it as well.

I honestly have no idea what servers they were, I just tried all sorts of ones to try and get in.

F1:CE? But it's online. Unless you weren't wanting that.

To be honest I'm not a huge online game player because I'm not very good at video games, my skill level doesn't really compete with others...in others words I suck at gaming.

I take it you didn't get the Prologue demo?

I did but I'm not fond of things I can not read so I didn't really play around with it enough to give a valid opinion on it.

Joey why do you feel the need to defend your opinions on the PS3 in here? Do you think we're going to change our minds? Just leave it be, man.

You know the rule about internet fighting. And no, you're not arguing. You're fighting.

It's the PS3 discussion right? I'm discussing the PS3 and the issues I have with the system along with what I do enjoy about it. I'm not here to change your minds on anything, I'm just giving another view point to the discussion. I'm not looking for a fight but I do disagree with some of the views in here and I do my best to respectfully disagree with them.

This is the one thing I dislike about PS3 supporters, it seems many of them jump on your back if you fault the system for whatever reason. I gave examples and reasons why I disliked X thing, if you don't agree with it give me your opinion respectfully or just ignore it.

If you have a problem let me know where it is and suggest how I may improve it.

 

[FoolKiller]

Joey why do you feel the need to defend your opinions on the PS3 in here? Do you think we're going to change our minds? Just leave it be, man.

You know the rule about internet fighting. And no, you're not arguing. You're fighting.

If you are referring to his discussion with me I didn't realize we were fighting.

I honestly have no idea what servers they were, I just tried all sorts of ones to try and get in.

Oh, blue ones are Sony servers.

To be honest I'm not a huge online game player because I'm not very good at video games, my skill level doesn't really compete with others...in others words I suck at gaming.

This is a conversation I had with Land Sea Air while playing One on One in Warhawk.

FK: I only need my Warhawk Recruiting badge to rank up.
LSA: What's holding you back?
FK: I suck in a Warhawk (said while flying into his base).
LSA: And yet, here you are. (while trying to shoot me down)

My point: If you are having fun and playing with people you get along with skill level doesn't matter. And in my case Solid Fro actually pointed out some of my problems. Using his advice I have a better KDR and can get 1st place in about a third of my games. I am almost always in the top three on my team.

I still suck at flying a Warhawk though.

 

[V1P3R]

If you bought a 360 because you wanted a 360 then you are pretty dumb, because it's like buying a Celeron PC. Nothing but problems. I bought a 360 to be able to play the games because I only wanted the games not the 360. Problem with that is you need the 360 to play them.

As for the ps3 I did buy it for the PS3 because I knew it was an awesome system and I also bought it for the games but at the moment there are none.

What I don't understand is why people are so dead set against the Xbox 360?

Why is everyone so dead set against the PS3?

 

[Brett]

I still believe a majority of Xbox problems stem from owners not taking proper care of their system.

This is just not true. I had to send two 360s to Texas (that's where they go, when they have problems) to get replaced. I did absolutely nothing wrong with and treated them as I have every other system I have ever owned. I kept the system clean and dust free. I kept it in a very well ventilated area (went well out of my way to make sure it would stay cool with the ceiling fan on full blast and the air conditioning on). I also did not play the 360 for long periods of time either, work during the summer and college the rest of the year did not allow for it. And yet, the two systems I had still managed to have problems. I did absolutely nothing wrong with the two I had. The only explanation is there is a design problem, which MS has fessed up to.

My decision to trade the 360 in for a PS3 was made easy by the terrible reliability problems of the 360. With this type of product, I cannot stand unreliability. It is something that should absolutely not happen, except in extreme conditions. The two 360s I had, had problems under normal operating conditions.

With that said and other than the reliability problems, the 360 is a nice system. It has some very good games and provided me with some big excitement during gameplay (though the excitement had constant nervousness behind it because of the thought the system could go kablamo at any moment).

 

[Robin]

Everyone ive spoken to who owns 360's have bought them for two reasons.. because they are cheap and they play half decient games...

No one has ever said they bought one because they love the 360 as a piece of hardware.. even people who support 360 hate the system but like the games. They live in fear that its going to ROL on them! one of my mates is paranoid about it!

With the PS3 most people by it because it is an impressive machine in itself... I bought mine purely for the console as I new decient games would be a while away.

Robin

 

[FoolKiller]

Why is everyone so dead set against the PS3?

That is a good question, especially if you read a lot of gaming sites.

That said, if you talk to people looking to do more than just game then they almost always want the PS3.

And I believe that may be why the backwards compatibility thing with the 40gb didn't bite Sony as hard as I thought it would (if at all). For people looking to do more than just play games it was a very minor issue.

 

[Joey D]

Wow many of these past posts just proves my point, I have nothing against the PS3 nor do I hate it, but lets just drop this since it's not going anywhere and it's just going to turn into more of a flame fest. I just wish we could have a decent conversation without it turning into this.

 

[Joey D]

Anyways completely un-related, will the PS3 play burned/ripped Blue-Ray movies from a Blue-Ray burner. A buddy of mine recently bought one (yes they are like $800 or something) and said he was going to be burning me some stuff on it (legal stuff, movies he has made concerning cars and whatnot). So will it play it or does Sony have some sort of copy protection on it...I vaguely remember hearing this on a forum or two but a lot of that stuff can not be trusted.

 

[shaka]

What I don't understand is why people are so dead set against the Xbox 360?

Its defective.
pay online that does not work.
MS lost their two top devs.

No attacks, its just facts.

 

[Solid Fro]

That is a good question, especially if you read a lot of gaming sites.

That said, if you talk to people looking to do more than just game then they almost always want the PS3.

And I believe that may be why the backwards compatibility thing with the 40gb didn't bite Sony as hard as I thought it would (if at all). For people looking to do more than just play games it was a very minor issue.

Agreed.

I am a delivery driver and when I go into customer's houses, I see more HDTVs, more PS3s, than anything else. I've seen dozens of PS3s, maybe two Wiis, and zero 360s. Even I am surprised by that.

Ugh, don't even get me started about bias in the gaming media.

 

[G.T]

pay online that does not work.

No attacks, its just facts.

Not meaning to add to the current discussion... but this is not true. Yes, you have to pay, but it does work. It's only very recently on weekends (and during the last Christmas period) in the evenings it will start to bog down. But other than that, it's been perfectly fine. In some games it's more stable than PSN (ie COD4), but the PSN is getting better, I know. But going as far as saying it doesn't work is completely false.

 

[Joey D]

Once again can we get off this discussion of what system is better? All three systems (360, PS3, and Wii) all have their strengths and their weaknesses.

 

[Robin]

In some games it's more stable than PSN (ie COD4), but the PSN is getting better, I know. But going as far as saying it doesn't work is completely false.

Ive had no stability issues with COD4 on PSN, it loads up right away, gets into games quick and I have never seen lag in game and im on a mediocre broadband connection. I know your a big COD player just wondering if you could clarify your stability issues..

Maybe its because im running with the new US patch???

Robin