PS3 General Discussion
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There are always going to be people who only see things on the negative side, and it happens in every part of business around the world. There are plenty of people who want to see GM, Ford, and DCX fail so that the Japanese can take their "rightfull" position on top, and there are plenty of people who want to see Wal Mart fail with their new expansions into banking and high-class shopping centers.
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Yeah. I just don't get the mentality. I guess I don't define myself by the stuff I purchase whereas others do. Sad really.YSSMAN
If it's morals in consumerism we're after then it's a long journey to find the right one that suits an individuals ethics. To be honest I dislike near on all companies!
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New MOH: airborne trailer:
http://media.ps3.ign.com/media/692/692471/vids_1.html
http://media.ps3.ign.com/media/692/692471/vids_1.html
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I would be more interested if I could see some footage from E3 but I have'nt found any yet. Got some pics though.tha_con
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To me, the invective really grew when Sega took the Dreamcast off the market. I imagine a lot of people were fond of Sega and the Dreamcast as 'the little company done good'. I think most of these people grew to hate Sony afterward and they quickly jumped on the Xbox as a machine that could possibly topple Sony.
At any rate, I'd agree, there certainly seems to be quite a few Sony-haters out there.
spritehere you go a video
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Motorstorm look ok, but they still have a long way to go till its upto scratch with the E32005 trailer.
Pfft, camera angles would change everything. I'm surprised how many people don't realize how important camera angles are.
Anyway, while it's not up to par visually, the action on screen and AI is just ferocious, and I'd must more have it that way, than a pretty pretty game.
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I agree totally, I would rarther have vicious AI than spanky great graphics, and I agrere that the CG vid had cool camera angles, but it also had alot more in the way of a damage model and also foliage and scenery, but they still have plenty of time to polish this and getting it looking close to the CG vid.
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I know exactly what you are talking about. I wrote a short essay in High School about how Wal-Mart is more evil than most people realise, and comming from this pro-GOP guy, I got a bit of heat from a few of my conservative friends.
On Motorstorm: It still sounds like a good game, and if they can get the polish up to par even with the 360, they might have a winner. But, and this is a HUGE BUT, I would have to wait and see what the other racing titles are like on the PS3 before any decisions would be made... That is of course, if I end up buying a PS3 at some point...
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I hate Sony for that very reason. I understand that the Playstation ended up being the system to invigorate the heck out of the videogame market, but I still hate them for what they did to Sega. Not to mention all the way around, they're a stinky company like Micro$oft. Fortunately, both of them are beginning to act like they need to make friends with the gamers who made them rich, like Nintendo still does.Maven
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i have no idea if its been posted yet but here is a video showing off the PS3s OS/GUI
http://pspupdates.qj.net/PS3-s-interface-revealed-Looks-just-like-the-PSP-s-XMB/pg/49/aid/38576
Also a correction on the first post. Up to 4 PS3 Controllers and 3 PSPs for a total of 7 Controllers. Just put something along the lines of: 7 Total Controllers using 4 PS3 Controllers and 3 PSPs as individual Controllers.
http://pspupdates.qj.net/PS3-s-interface-revealed-Looks-just-like-the-PSP-s-XMB/pg/49/aid/38576
Also a correction on the first post. Up to 4 PS3 Controllers and 3 PSPs for a total of 7 Controllers. Just put something along the lines of: 7 Total Controllers using 4 PS3 Controllers and 3 PSPs as individual Controllers.
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Sony isnt that bad, Microsoft is way worse. I noticed several times during the MSFT press conf they made negative comments towards Sony. Nintendo nor Sony did that to each other or MSFT. MSFT has been known for doing sneaky and things like this since they were founded. Before anyone calls me a fanboy, i own a Xbox and play it frequently. Microsoft has decent products except the Windows line. They are just those kind of ppl that will cheat, lie, scam, etc to Win.Tenacious D
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Business is business, SEGA failed to market, price and support the Dreamcast upto a standard that provided enough customers to make the system a success, Sony did. Sony didn't kill the Dreamcast, SEGA did by providing a product they couldn't compete with. Sure it had some great games, but it's price was too high for what it was, and the PS2 was so much more. I don't see any sense in feeling that way about Sony because SEGA dropped the ball, it's not like Sony had somone go nito SEGA's manufacturing plants and hijack the production line.Tenacious D
Face it, SEGA are better at software than hardware, now SEGA provide software for all the systems, consumer win's.
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Uhm... no.live4speed
First of all, the Dreamcast had a stellar game lineup. In fact, it had the best release lineup of any console in history. The arcade games were just about pixel perfect! And the games just kept coming. What happened was, Sony did what Microsoft did and bought out huge franchises like EA's sports division which was nothing more than an all out war on Sega. Along with that, the game media jumped on the PS2 bandwagon almost completely before the system was even out.
Second, the Dreamcast was a full $100 less than the PS2. When the Dreamcast was finally abandoned, the PS2 remained at $300 for a good long while, because Sony had no competition.
Third, the games were just as good on the Dreamcast. It helped immensely that the developers found it a dream to program for. To this day, they love the Dreamcast and despize the PS2. One developer called the Dreamcast "the most underappreciated console in history."
And yes, sony as a company does suck. Their customer service is okay, but they're expensive as hell, and they find ways to charge you for everything. Remember how the Playstations didn't even come with a memory card, which you HAD to have to play the games? They're full of themselves, just like Microsoft. I'm hopeful that Sony finds itself in a real fight to keep marketshare and cozys up to gamers like Sega and Nintendo still do.
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OK, its fair enough for sony to say that the ps3 is more than a gaming machine hence the price tag BUT, dont call it a playstation then..... it is still a next gen gaming console and people buy them to play games! also, there are some gamers who wont have the funds to buy such a machine..... sony is loosing out big time on its core market..... the younger generation...
As for sony as a company sucking..... all ive ever wanted to do its work for sony my whole live!
As for sony as a company sucking..... all ive ever wanted to do its work for sony my whole live!
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As if five years ago the younger gamers would have been able to afford it anyway. Plus going by inflation the price isnt too bad, and the adult audience has increased greatly.
Kids will just have to wait for the price to drop or get it for christmas or theyre birthday like kids in the past have always had to. It will be good for them. And if they cant wait then they should just get the more child orientated nintendo wii.
Kids will just have to wait for the price to drop or get it for christmas or theyre birthday like kids in the past have always had to. It will be good for them. And if they cant wait then they should just get the more child orientated nintendo wii.
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Everyone takes shots at eachother throughout the year, you know that. All Microsoft did this year is make fun of Sony's rubber duck demo from last year, that was about it. Wind the clock back to GDC, Sony was all over the other two with stupid sales figures and making cracks about the 360's lack of appearances on store shelves. Nintendo still criticizes the two of them for not making GAMES anymore, etc.
If youre going to get upset about one crack that Microsoft made, I really don't know what to say other than grow up. Its a dog-eat-dog business, and with how personal the game has gotten over the past few years, I'm surprised Kutaragi (Sp?) and Moore didnt get into a fist fight at E3...
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So Sony came up with a good business strategy and implemented it.Tenacious D
Not at launch, when the PS2 came out the DC had been out for a while, SEGA should have capitalised on that advantage the problem was the DC wasn't as future proof as the PS2, it wasn't marketed as well as the PS2 and SEGA didn't make enough deals with games companies to compete with the PS2.
That's true, but what good is all of that if the console isn't being marketed and put into people's hands effectively.
You'd be hard pressed to find a large company that doesn't "suck", SEGA included, do you thnk they arn't out there to get you're money as well and never were. SEGA, Sony, Nintendo, Microsoft, they're all after you're money, none of them are your friends, it's just a case or marketing things to make you want them, you being the general public.
If one company does all that better than another, resulting in the other company failing, so be it.
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Maybe things were different across the Pond, but in the States, the Dreamcast debuted at $199, the PS2 at $299. And as usual, with the PS2 you had to buy a lot of accessories that were included with the Dreamcast. And I would have to say that as far as future proof consoles go, the Dreamcast broadband adaptor actually worked, which is more than many of us can say about ours. Mine will ping Sony's server just great, but it won't go on the net at all. Developers are seriously ready to jump ship on the PS2, but you can't ignore a userbase of 100,000,000, so many will slog it out with the black box for a year or more.
I do know that companies aren't charities, but there's a freaking HUGE difference between cusomer friendly companies like Sega and Nintendo, and customer hostile ones like Micro$oft and $ony (and Electronic Art$ for that matter). Fortunately, there are signs that both are waking up to the Nintendo model, but we'll see how far that goes. As of today, I'm still a fanboy of Sega and Nintendo, and... that's about it.
I do know that companies aren't charities, but there's a freaking HUGE difference between cusomer friendly companies like Sega and Nintendo, and customer hostile ones like Micro$oft and $ony (and Electronic Art$ for that matter). Fortunately, there are signs that both are waking up to the Nintendo model, but we'll see how far that goes. As of today, I'm still a fanboy of Sega and Nintendo, and... that's about it.
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The dreamcast was a great console in many ways. It had 64 channels of sound, 16 more than the PS2, for example.
One thing that helped the PS2, so the arguement goes was the DVD drive. For many it was the first DVD player they had. I'm not sure how important it was for consumers but it did help the boom in DVD sales in the year of its release. I myself purchased two DVD's when I got my PS2.
Could the Blu-ray in the PS3 really help sales? Do enough people know about the technology to take it into consideration?
Well the 360 is sold partly on its HD abilities so certainly there's knowledge amongst consumers of High Definition. Hopefully, and for Sony's sake, people will take it into consideration when faced with the price which I don't think is excessive when all the hardware is taken into consideration.
One thing that helped the PS2, so the arguement goes was the DVD drive. For many it was the first DVD player they had. I'm not sure how important it was for consumers but it did help the boom in DVD sales in the year of its release. I myself purchased two DVD's when I got my PS2.
Could the Blu-ray in the PS3 really help sales? Do enough people know about the technology to take it into consideration?
Well the 360 is sold partly on its HD abilities so certainly there's knowledge amongst consumers of High Definition. Hopefully, and for Sony's sake, people will take it into consideration when faced with the price which I don't think is excessive when all the hardware is taken into consideration.
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The PS2 definitely did help the DVD movie market and vice versa. Regarding Blue-Ray, it could be a similar story, the problem this time is the price for the new technology is higher, it's a lso a bit soon for a lot of people to be thinking of replacing thier DVD collections, but I can see people simply starting to buy less DVD's and buy new films they dan't already own on Blue-Ray, the quesion is will people do that now, when the difference between Blue-Ray and DVD on a normal TV won't be fantascilly huge, infact it almost won't be there. In a few years it'd be more of a no brainer but this could go either way, me I'll be enjoying blue-ray and high def games, but not everyone could. The PS3 is a bargain for what it offers, the question is, how much of what it offers will benefit the majority of people right now?
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