PS3 General Discussion

tha_con
Swift this whole debate is directly related to PS3, as it was started by slackbladder.

He stated that he believed Sony was forcing Blu-Ray on us, and that it would not show advantages since "not many people have HDTV's".

I am simply giving him the information for a counter arguement, that PS3 is not in fact over-bundled with unnecessary technology, and that it IS in fact, future proofed and ready for the time when these things become common place. It's all a matter of relation, and this directly related to his questions.

Tha_con, I realize that. But how easy is it to get off on a tangent. Let's keep it related to the PS3, blue-ray and things of that nature.
 
It's a shame people don't "get" the idea of a future proof console. Personally I get it, and I understand why it has to be paid for at a price higher than the 360 or Wii (the Wii is supposedly to be around $250). As I have a HDTV I can see all the good things and none of the bad.

But isn't the Blu-ray going to offer more than just HD films on the PS3? Isn't it going to help store more information, possibly allowing for several languages or texts to be in a game and therefore letting the game get a simultaneous release in multiple territories? Or easier storage of uncompressed data onto a BD-Rom? Won't the Blu-ray drive be quieter and cooler when in use than a 12x speed DVD drive? It's not just for films is it. If it were just for films then yes, it's a waste of technologyfor non-HDTV owners.

Anyway, if the PS3 was being sold for $400 (£300) we probably would'nt be having this debate. It's all to do with the price really and what you expect from the price. If someone is only after a games console then the PS3 is expensive. You can't convince them otherwise. But if you see past that and "get" it then it's a bargain.
 
News about PS3 has been pretty week of late. But, i found this and it sounds somewhat interesting, even though it's pretty weak...

A job listing has revealed that the PlayStation 3 is to get downloadable games, much in the same way as the Xbox 360.

A job posted on CraigsList, has revealed that the developer That Game Company is looking to hire a programmer to develop "an unannounced downloadable title for the PlayStation 3 launch in November."

The job listing has now been changed, to hide the fact the game is a downloadable launch title for the PS3, but IGN got confirmation from That Game Company, who informed the US video games site that the downloadable title would in fact be a version of their evolutionary web-based game flOw.

You can try our flOw for yourself, either online or in downloadable form, over on the game's website.

Source: IGN
 
Yep, news is slow at the mo'. Found this though. BBC News
When actor Andy Serkis was arranging his mortgage, little did he know it would lead to his involvement in a video game for the forthcoming PlayStation 3 (PS3).

Serkis is no stranger to the digital arts, having starred as Gollum in the Lord of the Rings films and as the giant ape King Kong.

He is now working on appearing in one of the leading titles for the PS3, Heavenly Sword, starring in it as the evil king and acting as its dramatic director.

The game is a martial arts epic developed by UK game makers Ninja Theory for Sony's next generation console.
Check the link for the rest. Quite interesting.
 
Solid Lifters
News about PS3 has been pretty week of late. But, i found this and it sounds somewhat interesting, even though it's pretty weak...

A job listing has revealed that the PlayStation 3 is to get downloadable games, much in the same way as the Xbox 360.

A job posted on CraigsList, has revealed that the developer That Game Company is looking to hire a programmer to develop "an unannounced downloadable title for the PlayStation 3 launch in November."

The job listing has now been changed, to hide the fact the game is a downloadable launch title for the PS3, but IGN got confirmation from That Game Company, who informed the US video games site that the downloadable title would in fact be a version of their evolutionary web-based game flOw.

You can try our flOw for yourself, either online or in downloadable form, over on the game's website.

Source: IGN
I played flOw yesterday, it's just a glorified version of snake. It has a strange calming effect though.
 
I'm not going to read through 92 pages. Is it possible to use the PS3 as a DVD recorder?? It has a HDMI port and a 60 GB HD.
 
KENJIusa
Gaimaga Blows Out Final Fantasy XIII👍
http://ps3.ign.com/articles/710/710761p1.html
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Is that on the PS3? :scared:
 
Thats CGI. It was explained in the interview that the CGI version and in game are close in detail but the CGI has millions more polygons. The hair has the same amount of strands but less triangles.
 
PS3 Pressure Getting to Sony Employees

PlayStation PR chief jumps ship
Posted Jun 2nd 2006 5:55PM by Christopher Grant

According to Next-Gen.biz, SCEA's PR chief, Molly Smith, resigned yesterday after leading the operation from the PlayStation 1 until now, a ten-year tenure. Sony has yet to make an official announcement.

While it's easy (and fun) to chalk this up to throwing in the old PR towel amidst a recent spate of spin-proof doozies, the burn out rate in the PR industry is high. After working for one company in one position for ten years, when Sony does comment on her departure, she'll have left to spend more time with her family, or pursue other avenues. The real question is, will her replacement help Sony out of this rut they're in?
 
PS3 Portal
UK online store, Play.com, has started taking pre-orders for seven PlayStation 3 titles. Currently, all the titles are listed as launch titles and are priced at £49.99 (USD94).

Although Sony has not confirmed any PlayStation 3 game prices, a UK price of £49.99 has been speculated ever since the PlayStation 3's announcement.

The PlayStation 3's main competitor this generation, the Xbox 360, recently had a price reduction on several games, with most titles having a Recommended Retail Price of £39.99

Currently, the following titles are listed on Play.com:
Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six Vegas
Gran Turismo HD
Call Of Duty 3
Brothers In Arms: Hell's Highway
WWE Smackdown Vs Raw 2007
Warhawk
Fight Night Round 3

Wow looks like this price is going to be not too bad... well not as bad as I expected anyway. But they have got GT HD on and we all know that wasnt going to be an actual game but a tech demo for E3, so why they hell have they put it up?

Just taken a look for myself ,and at the bottom, they state "PAL: Will play on UK and European Playstation3 only" why put this when we know thats not true, guess they are covering thier ass just in case.

here is the link to the games. LINK

wow just had a look and they have even got the system on for £549.99 Delivered with three games.

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I'll take that all with a large pinch of salt. No way Play know what games will be released with the PS3 (the Eye-toy game looks like one though). Still, I would expect the games to be at £49.99 max to compete with 360 prices. Sony can't ask us to pay more for games as well as the console, can they?
A price of £550 for console and 3 games is'nt too bad but prices can change by November.
Anyway, I'm looking at nearly £600 for the console, two games and two Blu-ray movies come November. Bye-bye Christmas...(for other people, not myself) :D
 
slackbladder
I'll take that all with a large pinch of salt. No way Play know what games will be released with the PS3 (the Eye-toy game looks like one though). Still, I would expect the games to be at £49.99 max to compete with 360 prices. Sony can't ask us to pay more for games as well as the console, can they?
A price of £550 for console and 3 games is'nt too bad but prices can change by November.
Anyway, I'm looking at nearly £600 for the console, two games and two Blu-ray movies come November. Bye-bye Christmas...(for other people, not myself) :D

Totally agree, its obvious that they havent done their homework based on the fact that they are offering GT HD for sale, but it may give some sort of idea about the priceing.
 
360 games are still being sold for £50 by some shops but prices vary, getting as low as £35. Still, at launch nearly all games were £45-£50. The PS3 will be no different unless the big supermarkets drop the price at launch, which is unlikely. Maybe after 2 or 3 months.
Anyway, I'll be renting most of my games. For under £25 a month I can have 2 games and play them for as long as I like (which is usually 2 weeks). I'll be doing that with my PS3 games too no doubt.
 
Just FYI people, the entire FFXIII trailer was CG, and AFAIK, none of it was "real time". But this is just he "whisper" among some of us insiders.
 
Well con i think you are.... Totally wrong (unless of course it was sarcasm on your part)

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Square already stated, that the bit with the train at the begining and parts of the fight in the train were CG, but the bit in the forest and parts of the inside train scene were actual ingame.
 
It's been confirmed as in development by Kaz himself, just not as the next GT game yet, though that seems to be the most likely.
 
kikie
GT5 hasn't even been confirmed, yet.

:lol: That's like saying "Square hasn't confirmed the next Final Fantasy game."
It's a given. We just don't know details. :sly:
 
Well here are some screen grabs from the E3 2006 trailer that I grabed from my downloaded version.

Obviously CG
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These are supposed In-game assets (according to Square)
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BTW here are some Japanese magazine scans about the game, if any of you want to translate be my guest.

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The CG or In-game stuff look ace however yuo look at it or what you beleive, there is no dowbt that Square will relese a good game, and is only on PS3. Tha_con, I wasnt saying you were lying, I was just saying that I tend to beleive what the guys making the game say, rarther than my friends.

Now on to more important matters, what do you guys think to an x-box emulator running on the PS3, Via the Linux installed, like a homebrew version, im sure the PS3 could handle that, just like it handles the PS1 and 2, BTW this want my idea, its was on another forum so I thought I might get your opinions.
 
Well Sprite, I'd love to believe Square on this one, but considering most of the team has pretty much confirmed in interviews with Famitsu that they have JUST finished the pre-production stage and concept design, I'm almost positive they are definately not that far along in development.

IIRC, this was initially a PS2 project, and it was all scrapped in order to start anew with the PS3, and Square reverted back to "square one" in order to take advantage of the PS3, and come up with a more "visually pleasing" concept and scenario.

But I'm almost positive that everything you've seen was "target" footage.
 
tha_con
Well Sprite, I'd love to believe Square on this one, but considering most of the team has pretty much confirmed in interviews with Famitsu that they have JUST finished the pre-production stage and concept design, I'm almost positive they are definately not that far along in development.

IIRC, this was initially a PS2 project, and it was all scrapped in order to start anew with the PS3, and Square reverted back to "square one" in order to take advantage of the PS3, and come up with a more "visually pleasing" concept and scenario.

But I'm almost positive that everything you've seen was "target" footage.

Sure, Much like the GTV stuff that was shown. It almost certainly is NOT what the final project is going to look like, but it gives us a taste of what Square can do with the PS3 hardware.
 
Ultra One: PS2 on PS3 & onboard flash memory
by Bhavin Shah

A report in a Japanese technology magazine has suggested that Sony will include PlayStation 2 hardware inside each PS3 to achieve backwards compatibility at launch.

Sony had claimed at the PlayStation Business Briefing in February that backwards compatibility would be achieved through software emulation. But according to Ultra One magazine, first edition PS3s will ship with the core PS2 chipset.

Since the software emulation required for backwards compatibility will require significant time and effort, hardware-independant backwards compatibility will be included in later revisions of the PS3. This will reduce production costs because the PS2 chipset will no longer be needed.

Whilst this does guarantee almost fault-free backwards compatibility at launch, it does raise questions about the visual improvements we will see with PlayStation 2 games. Hardware emulation is likely to mean the games will run similar to how they did on their original consoles.

The magazine did go on to reveal that the PS3 will feature onboard flash memory. Phil Harrison, president of SCE Worldwide Studios, has revealed that a standard PC hard drive can be used in the PS3, but there was some confusion over how the PS3 would then retain essential files like system updates. However, Ultra One suggests that the flash memory would store the PS3's OS and any critical updates. Presumably, then, the hard drive will be used exclusively for multimedia content and game caching.

Furthermore, if, in the future, changes in chip design cause problems with particular games, users will be able to connect to Sony's online service and download updates to fix these issues.

Could this mean that a system update will allow software emulation on the first PS3s, and therefore the visual improvements we're expecting?
http://www.ps3land.com/article-420.php
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