PS3 PSN login error

icelt
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10 Things to Do While Your PlayStation 3 Is Broken
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Hahahaha, classic. You do have to wonder though: What if you're the guy that has this problem on the same day your 360 has RRODed for the 5th successive time and broke your tv from playing your Wii?

You have to feel sorry for those that don't have a hobby outside of playing the PS3(the phat ones that is). Luckily for me, I have youtube(all copyright crap aside) and a bunch of N09 templates I'm painting plus all those glourious mods on GTR2 so I'm plenty busy. And on top of that, I passed one of my college exit exams:D

Famine
So long as it's not in your pants.
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:lol:
 
ASH32
yeti, you could be correct, but it would depend on whether this bug has been there all the time ( next time it will strike would then be 2014 ) or if it was somehow introduced in a firmware update after this time last year, then it could stike next year. As I am not Sony or someone who really understands these things, I don't really know anything for sure, it's all just opinion based of a little common sense.
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Yeah - I can't guarantee it either - but my logical mind tells me so...

Also - the fact that it's a hardware 3rd party chip issue makes it all the more likely...

When did Blackberry get this flashed? Earlier today? or before it happened?

C.
 
7. Play real-life Gran Turismo: Take your used Toyota hatchback out on the freeway and rev it up to 55. Ah, this is the life. Who needs racing games?


ROFLMAO :lol: I totally agree with this one.
 
There's one thing I don't understand ...

(among many others in general and the meaning of life in particular, but that's beside the point :P )


... If the problem is that:

1. the internal clock in the PS3 went from Feb 28th to Feb 29th

2. When firing up the PS3 the difference between the PS3 clock's date and the Sony server's date made the PS3 internal clock go back to Dec 31st 1999

3. And that makes it impossible to log into PSN, to use any downloadable content or in general to use any software that conflicts with an "Impossible/ancient" date


Then, why isn't the problem easily solved by each PS3 owner simply manually setting the clock back to 2010, March 1st?

After doing this, connection to PSN would be possible, the coherence of both clocks would be reestablished and the problem would be solved.

Why doesn't this work? The internal clock is independent of whatever date and time we try to manually introduce? I really don't understand ...
 
Smoothherb
Äh,
only way to fix this (exept loosing warrenty) is an onlineupdate right? But we can not log in to the Psn... Could be a very huge problem.
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You can get online fine with the PS3, just start up the PS3 browser and see for yourself. System updates do not require you to be signed into the PSN.

That said, the PS3 User Guide is your friend, but for some reason many people seem to never bother to check.

As has always been the case, you can also download system updates directly from Sony's PlayStation website to any USB drive of your choice. Then connect it to the PS3 and follow the directions given to update your system.

Some people update their system software like this all the time. Personally I always update it via the internet as it saves time, but it is nice to have a choice.



Smoothherb
Btw I dont believe in the date thing. My Ps3 had a random date because of the Fanatec bug
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You don't have to believe anything of course, but the cause and temporary fix (unplugging the RTC battery that powers the internal clock - not the clock you see and can adjust, and putting it back after 5 minutes or so) have been identified and confirmed.

The only thing that remains in question is what kind of software fix will Sony be able to come up with, and how soon it will be available. It's easy to unplug a battery, it's far more complex to fix a problem via software.
 
You know what they say - inside every fat PS3, there's a slim PS3 trying to get out.

I noticed some weird PSN activity yesterday, as I played GT5P online for the first time in ages - I kept getting dropped with a network error, but put it down to my own internet connection.

I'm annoyed that I didn't see this thread sooner, as I tried to play WipEout HD earlier and now realise that I've probably wipEd-out my hard-earned trophies :ouch:
 
Hun200kmh
There's one thing I don't understand ...

(among many others in general and the meaning of life in particular, but that's beside the point :P )


... If the problem is that:

1. the internal clock in the PS3 went from Feb 28th to Feb 29th

2. When firing up the PS3 the difference between the PS3 clock's date and the Sony server's date made the PS3 internal clock go back to Dec 31st 1999

3. And that makes it impossible to log into PSN, to use any downloadable content or in general to use any software that conflicts with an "Impossible/ancient" date


Then, why isn't the problem easily solved by each PS3 owner simply manually setting the clock back to 2010, March 1st?

After doing this, connection to PSN would be possible, the coherence of both clocks would be reestablished and the problem would be solved.

Why doesn't this work? The internal clock is independent of whatever date and time we try to manually introduce? I really don't understand ...
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Well and again I am only guessing, I would say the internal clock hasn't changed to the 29th at all, rather a bug has tried to make it do that, thus causing it to freeze and lock-up, hence why my PS3 isn't keeping time. That is why I suggested removing and replacing the battery to reset it. Other than doing that Sony will have to release a firmware the first resets the system ( I think they can do that ) and then they can think about stopping it happening again.

Touring Mars, as far as I am aware trophy info is stored on a sony server so any previously synced trophies should be fine, though I could be wrong on this.
 
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crazytortise
They should let all "phat" owners send in there machines and swop them out for new slims :lol:
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No way I love my phatty

@Hun200kmh
That's the OS clock. The problem comes from a chip's clock. And that is gone with a firmware tomorrow. That's what firmwares are for.
 
I am annoyed that I bought GT5P from the PS3 store, in order to play it I have to be signed into the PSN :(

Or I can use the Japanese disc I still have but will have no cars and be on SPEC I lol
 
Hun200kmh
There's one thing I don't understand ...

(among many others in general and the meaning of life in particular, but that's beside the point :P )


... If the problem is that:

1. the internal clock in the PS3 went from Feb 28th to Feb 29th

2. When firing up the PS3 the difference between the PS3 clock's date and the Sony server's date made the PS3 internal clock go back to Dec 31st 1999

3. And that makes it impossible to log into PSN, to use any downloadable content or in general to use any software that conflicts with an "Impossible/ancient" date


Then, why isn't the problem easily solved by each PS3 owner simply manually setting the clock back to 2010, March 1st?

After doing this, connection to PSN would be possible, the coherence of both clocks would be reestablished and the problem would be solved.

Why doesn't this work? The internal clock is independent of whatever date and time we try to manually introduce? I really don't understand ...
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It is because the internal clock is indeed separate to that of the user controlled clock. I suspect the reason for that is security, copy protection, and prevent cheating of some kind or another.

For instance, if you had rented a downloadable movie that was good for how ever many hours or days that it is, if it only went by the clock you set, then you could effectively extend the rental period to however long you wanted. Thus one of I'm sure several reasons why it needs an internal clock that can not be changed by the user.

In regards to the trophies, they use the internal clock to date stamp each trophy when you unlock them, perhaps to discourage people from trying to make it appear as if they got a trophy at a different day or time then they actually did.
 
@Digital-Nitrate
Thanks for clearing-up now I am somewhat more confident.
U s e r G u i d e ? What for? I push the button and it works...
until today
 
PAPPACLART
Electronics seem to have simply become much more unreliable recently than from as far back as I can remember.
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They have also gotten far more complex due to the dramatic increase in functionality and performance, so it would not be stretch to expect some kind of correlation.



Smoothherb
@Digital-Nitrate
Thanks for clearing-up now I am somewhat more confident.
U s e r G u i d e ? What for? I push the button and it works...
until today
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:D I totally understand. I love intuitive electronics as well, as I am not a fan of having to spend a lot of time rummaging through user manuals, but I must hand it to Sony, they did a great job with that online PS3 User Guide as well as their official PS3 Support website. They make it very easy to answer just about any question someone could come up with regarding how to do just about anything you can do with a PS3 and trouble shoot any issues that might come up. Certainly far better than any electronic equipment that I own and or have had issues with.
 
Hun200kmh
There's one thing I don't understand ...

(among many others in general and the meaning of life in particular, but that's beside the point :P )


... If the problem is that:

1. the internal clock in the PS3 went from Feb 28th to Feb 29th

2. When firing up the PS3 the difference between the PS3 clock's date and the Sony server's date made the PS3 internal clock go back to Dec 31st 1999

3. And that makes it impossible to log into PSN, to use any downloadable content or in general to use any software that conflicts with an "Impossible/ancient" date


Then, why isn't the problem easily solved by each PS3 owner simply manually setting the clock back to 2010, March 1st?

After doing this, connection to PSN would be possible, the coherence of both clocks would be reestablished and the problem would be solved.

Why doesn't this work? The internal clock is independent of whatever date and time we try to manually introduce? I really don't understand ...
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Manually changing the clock won't do anything since this is a seperate clock from the PS3's internal clock which many people believe uses Greenwich Mean Time or GMT. Once GMT hits March 2, 2010 which should be in a few hours, it should be ok if it really is the clock that's giving the problem.

Some users have manually taken out the PS3's internal battery which reset the clock and made the PS3's work as they should which lends credibility to the fact that everything should be fixed by the PS3 itself once GMT hits March 2, 2010.
 
I'm watching our local new and they are talking about the PS3 troubles. I find it funny, but kind of sad at the same time. I really don't mind it being out since it kind of gives me a reason to do something :lol:, that is also a sad statement.
 
Wonder if the throphies will come back hehe. Was playing Midnight Club LA but strangely enough my ingame bankaccount said it was 300.000 dollar... while last time i stopped it had 50.000 dollar. Could this corrupt youre gamesaves? :S
 
PAPPACLART
Electronics seem to have simply become much more unreliable recently than from as far back as I can remember.
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This is purely because of the demands that the consumer puts on companies. Back in the day there wasnt the public pressure on companies to bring out the equipment as soon as it was heard about. This could be to do with people being in the deark more do to lack of internet maybe. It is also to do with people wanting all the newest equipment but wanting it cheaper and cheaper each time so they have to reduce the quality of the components inside the machine in order to get thigns at a cheaper price in order to reduce the cost of the final product. A good example of this is I have an original n.e.s deluxe boxset unit complete with r.o.b and it all still works perfectly however the newer machines dont seem to have the same life. My nes is 22 years old and still going strong. They simply dont make things to the level they used to and regardless of what people say we do live in a disposable world and things are made with a life expectancy.
 
Digital-Nitrate
They have also gotten far more complex due to the dramatic increase in functionality and performance, so it would not be stretch to expect some kind of correlation.
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LCD tech has been around for years as PC monitors with this tech having plenty of time to mature yet we have many LCD TV's from big manufactures failing. In fairness LCD TV's are a little more complicated than monitors, with more complicated CPU's designed to improve picture quality and motion. Should a TV not work out of the box? My current TV has had more than 20 firmware releases from 2008!

Have we not been making computer chips for more than 30 years, and also motherboards etc? So why these things should be breaking all the time is a question that needs to be answered? It would have nothing to do with manufactures releasing there latest rage of TV's year after year to replace the ones before? Also, why do I have to point the remote at my 2008 model phillips at a particular angle so that the channel changes when my grandmars 20 year old tv changes just fine and still works to this day?

From what I gather, an XBOX 360 is basically built from a bunch of tried and tested PC parts mated together and put in a box. I am sure there are some custom components but the GPU is a modded ATI and the CPU is a power PC, all pretty much based on tried and tested tech. The DVD drive which also scratched disks is nothing new.

The PS3 is a little more custom and new, but all of its main problems like the 360 were mostly due to bad design. It's one thing having new tech but if you can't put it all together without it breaking due to overheating etc then what conclusion are the paying public going to come to.

The truth of the matter is: Shareholders have to be kept happy, pay cheques need to be paid, Life cycles of tech products is like the weather and every manufacturer is always trying to one up the other to be the first with the greatest and latest! Naturally products will be rushed to market when they are not ready and fixed if necessary with firmware etc.

Most of the problems associated with any new hardware/software most of the time has nothing to do with the tech behind it being new, but more to do with the said product being rushed to market with a fail safe/fix being that most probs can be sorted with a firmware upgrade. Obviously for physical hardware problems then it envolves a recall/engineer....and we have had plenty of both:)
 
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