Q&A with Slightly Mad Studios: Ian Bell [Read OP]

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Does anyone know what tyres are used for the older cars? Are these going to be similar to what you would use now if racing a historic race of will they be as they were back then?
 
Does anyone know what tyres are used for the older cars? Are these going to be similar to what you would use now if racing a historic race of will they be as they were back then?

I don't know what they will be in game, but some classic series use rubber and tread patterns which are very similar to (replicas of) those used originally. One exception is Historic Formula Ford which used to use Michelin ZX road tyres to save cost, but now uses race tyres with a tread pattern which replicates an old race tyre. Hopefully they won't be too grippy - I prefer driving the non-aero less grippy cars.
 
Since pc1 we have been modeling "time period correct" tires for historic vehicles. Bias ply etc
I've always been on the fence here. Should we drive the historics with the tires that racers used many years ago? Or should we treat them as historic cars being driven now, with better tire technology. I love the bias ply, squishy, slippery tires. But I'd also like to drive them with whatever tire is used in the vintage races today.
 
I've always been on the fence here. Should we drive the historics with the tires that racers used many years ago? Or should we treat them as historic cars being driven now, with better tire technology. I love the bias ply, squishy, slippery tires. But I'd also like to drive them with whatever tire is used in the vintage races today.
This is a good point. With the rise in popularity of the Historic races, the use of old cars on modern rubber is now common. I mean, there's no way those cars are running the Masters Spa Six Hours on tires from 1970. I wonder how the game will accommodate for that?
 
I've always been on the fence here. Should we drive the historics with the tires that racers used many years ago? Or should we treat them as historic cars being driven now, with better tire technology. I love the bias ply, squishy, slippery tires. But I'd also like to drive them with whatever tire is used in the vintage races today.

During the development of PC1 it was considered for a short while to allow modern tires to be used with classic cars (or to be correct all compounds with all cars), there was certainly a small community asking for it, myself included, but there was a big hurdle. The width of the modern tires would have to be adjusted for these classic cars in almost all cases and due to how they are constructed they didn't always behave well with only width being changed, meaning that this would require significant additional development time. Maybe something to consider again for PC3, when there may not be a whole another form of racing being added. :)
 
I keep seeing videos where when the car goes around a long corner at high speed, one of the back tires leaves a trail of smoke, is this a known bug?
 
I've always been on the fence here. Should we drive the historics with the tires that racers used many years ago? Or should we treat them as historic cars being driven now, with better tire technology. I love the bias ply, squishy, slippery tires. But I'd also like to drive them with whatever tire is used in the vintage races today.

Actually, there are still a lot of "period correct" tires being manufactured for restoration purposes, etc. So I am not sure if those historic race cars are actually running on modern tires or period correct reproduction tires.
 
I've always been on the fence here. Should we drive the historics with the tires that racers used many years ago? Or should we treat them as historic cars being driven now, with better tire technology. I love the bias ply, squishy, slippery tires. But I'd also like to drive them with whatever tire is used in the vintage races today.
I posted a Best Motoring video, with Motoharu Kurosawa driving his old Hakasuka GT-R after 30 years. He mentioned how modern tyres took away the dynamics of the car, compared to the old tyres.

Actually, there are still a lot of "period correct" tires being manufactured for restoration purposes, etc. So I am not sure if those historic race cars are actually running on modern tires or period correct reproduction tires.
At a historic race, a few years ago, I acquired a slick from the Jim Richards ATCC E30 M3. It's a Kuhmo.
 
Can you guys get on the phone with Mad Mike right now?... please? Pretty please?
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I was wondering, will road cars have more racing liveries? In the first game some cars like the Mercedes sls, Ford focus, Mitsubishis and so on had some pretty cool racing liveries, really hope to see more of them in road cars.
The GT86 had some Shelby 2000GT vintage liveries as well as the GTO Celica liveries. Made my One Make GT86 races cool.
I know the 2002 turbo has the same liveries as the Stanceworks car. If the A45, Megane, 1M, etc. have the same liveries as their TC brethren, I could do some proper production car races like the Bathurst 6H and Continental tires series.

Edit: Any reason why Mazda, as a manufacturer, aren't in the game?
 
I've always been on the fence here. Should we drive the historics with the tires that racers used many years ago? Or should we treat them as historic cars being driven now, with better tire technology. I love the bias ply, squishy, slippery tires. But I'd also like to drive them with whatever tire is used in the vintage races today.

I can't comment on classic racing in the USA, but I go to a lot of classic meetings in the UK. Normally the tyres used are bias ply with a hard compound and a replica period tread. The following is an extract from the HSCC technical regulations:

"Cars in all classes may use only Racing Tyres from the Dunlop 'L' and 'M' Section Historic range,
compound 204"

The above tyres are bias ply (cross ply).





This is a good point. With the rise in popularity of the Historic races, the use of old cars on modern rubber is now common. I mean, there's no way those cars are running the Masters Spa Six Hours on tires from 1970. I wonder how the game will accommodate for that?

I don't think running old cars on modern rubber is common - at least not in the UK and Europe. The historic series mandate the type of tyres that can be used in order to keep a level playing field.

I recently attended the FIA Masters Historic Festival at Brands Hatch and noticed that the tyres had replica tread patterns. Cars from the pre-slick era are only allowed to use treaded tyres. For example in the FIA Masters Sports Car Championship the oldest cars use Dunlop CR65 with an L or M section 204 compound (as also used in HSCC run events) e.g. McLaren M1A and B. Later cars have the same option plus Avon Historic all weather tread A37 compound or Dunlop Post Historic CR84 484 compound. For wet weather Avon CR6672/Sport or Avon wet historic tread A15 compound can be used.

The Masters Pre 66 touring car series mandates the use of Dunlop L or M section as does the Masters 3 hour series (Ford GT40's etc)

The Masters Stena Line Gentleman Drivers series mandates Dunlop L section.

There are some classic one marque series using one make of tyre such as the Vredestein Jaguar and Kumho Tyres BMW (the latter includes modern cars).

The tyres on Historic cars will not be an issue in the game as we have heard from The American.
 
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@IanBell (or anyone else that know)
Will there be any use for Intermediate tyres in Pcars 2?
I never found good use in Pcars for it, it was either Rain or Slicks that were fastest for me
 
To anyone who has the game and knows. Do the GT3 cars have only 1 set of gear ratios like the FIA specifies or are they to IMSA spec where they can have 3 different sets of ratios? Do these restrictions apply to the final drive gear as well?
 
@The_American @IanBell

Has Pcars2 gone 'Gold' yet? It must be very close to finalising and ready for production, after all this hard work it must be a good feeling. :cheers:
haha It looks like we're twins :dopey: I've also asked that question during the recent Twitch Developers 'show'. This morning I read in another thread* for the first time Ian using the word Gold. So we must be very close and yes I am also curious about the answer. August 24 would be the best date!

But in all honesty: I think/assume the answer will be something like: it's done when it's done. Sharing a gold date upfront is rare but hey SMS is slighty mad so who knows ;)

source: * https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/threads/project-cars-2-videos.356739/page-41
 
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An SMS member said that on Monday they will receive the final build.
So gold is really, really near..

Now they sure will start to work on day one patch

yeah.. but not the final final build.. only the last one for us WMDs, doesn't mean that bugfixing and polishing stops.
 
yeah.. but not the final final build.. only the last one for us WMDs, doesn't mean that bugfixing and polishing stops.
I think we're talking about the same thing.
Finished development but working on the update that will come on launch and so start support
 
Can any of the SMS team comment on the V8 Supercars licence? Why is there only the Falcon? Does the Supercars commission want your first born, in exchange to use another manufacture?
 
I ask every so often(especially when a Supercars race is on). FM7 have the '15 Commodore & Falcon. I don't know if they have T10 got the S60, E63 and Altima
 
@IanBell @The_American The top speeds of the GT3 cars are much lower than they were in pCars 1. With horsepower being the same as before is the lower top speed primarily due to a different aero model or a more advanced one? Assuming it was changed from pCars 1 of course.
 
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