Racism - Ignored?
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Funny page, I think I'm am actually a differen color underneath though. 
Plague.Ghost
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I think this is a very good point, and I can vouche for it.
I was in New Orleans last year, and I was in a food court. It was just like any other food court in a mall, except for a subtle difference.
Being from Canada [I assume (or maybe it was just this mall/city/state/country)], I'm used to taking my tray and garbage etc. to the trash can, disposing of it, and placing on the stack of other trays.
Not here.
I was approached by a pot-bellied police officer who sternly asked, "What'ya think yer doin'?". I had no idea what he was on about so I looked around searching for what he might be talking about and shrugged my shoulders.
He said "See them women over there? You'll put them out of a job doin' that.", as he pointed to 3 black women mopping the floor, taking trays and cleaning off the tables.
Now granted, it could have been coincidence that they were black (or women even, if you really want to get down to it), but it really struck a chord. This cop nearly arrested for taking my tray to the stack (we always do that where I live). What kind of charge would that fall under? What if I took all their trays?
Anyway, food for thought. I'm sure what it meant, but I better start leaving my garbage laying around if I ever go to New Orleans again (which won't be for a long time from the looks of things).
Young_Warrior
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Thats funny. I have read this exact same story using the exact same words before somewhere. On this website I belive.
Who are you
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Young_WarriorThats funny. I have read this exact same story using the exact same words before somewhere. On this website I belive.
Who are you
And who are you to ask him such a question, none the less making such accusations.
Stick to the subject.
Young_Warrior
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Its not an accusation because its a fact. Im sure someone else here will notice the same thing I have.
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Even if that is the case, you still have no right to ask who he is.
Now I suggest you get back on the topic of the thread or stay out.
Also, if this fact is anything like the facts you've been spitting out in the "top gear: written review of the C6 Z06" thread, then we are gonna have problems.
Point is, stay on topic and consider this a final warning about doing so.
After this we will go to private message conversations and if I was you I wouldn't want that.
Now please, everyone,
Back onto the topic of racism being ignored!
Now I suggest you get back on the topic of the thread or stay out.
Also, if this fact is anything like the facts you've been spitting out in the "top gear: written review of the C6 Z06" thread, then we are gonna have problems.
Point is, stay on topic and consider this a final warning about doing so.
After this we will go to private message conversations and if I was you I wouldn't want that.
Now please, everyone,
Back onto the topic of racism being ignored!
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Young_Warrior
A search for "orleans food court" reveals three posts. Plague.ghost's post. Your post. Rumple Foreskin's post which contained 100 factlets and happened to contain those words in no particular order.
So that story would appear to have been mentioned just the once on this site.
Danoff
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SwiftOwned for free.
But on topic. Racism is without a doubt the big pink elephant in the middle of America that everyone would rather ignore, feed peanuts, or patronize than actually do something about.
I agree wholeheartedly. The anti-white sentiment has been growing for years and yet we refuse to address it.
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Seriously, what's the deal with that? There used to be laws making life hard if not impossible for non-white people that don't exist anymore. But let's start hating on the white people that had nothing to do with that.
Beyond hypocrisy. 👎
Don't mind me. It's been a heck of a long week.
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I found this article to be extremely interesting. For all the black americans out there that are democratic, take a look it: http://www.newmediajournal.us/staff/parks/01102006.htm
I'll show you a few highlights here.
▪ Congress passed the 15th Amendment in 1870, guaranteeing blacks the right to vote. Every single Republican voted for it, with every Democrat voting against it.
▪ During 1872 congressional investigations, Democrats admitted beginning the Ku Klux Klan as an effort to stop the spread of the Republican Party and to re-establish Democratic control in Southern states. Blacks, who were all Republican at that time, were the primary targets of violence.
▪ Between 1870 and 1875, the Republican Congress passed many pro-black civil rights laws. But in 1876, Democrats took control of the House, and no further race-based civil rights laws passed until 1957. In 1892, Democrats gained control of the House, the Senate and the White House, and repealed all the Republican-passed civil rights laws. That enabled the Southern Democrats to pass the Jim Crow laws, poll taxes, literacy tests, and so on in their individual states.
▪ Only 64 percent of Democrats in Congress voted for the 1964 Civil Rights Act, while 80 percent of Republicans voted for the Act.
Looks like to me, the democrats are the one with the tendancy of racisim.
I'll show you a few highlights here.
▪ Congress passed the 15th Amendment in 1870, guaranteeing blacks the right to vote. Every single Republican voted for it, with every Democrat voting against it.
▪ During 1872 congressional investigations, Democrats admitted beginning the Ku Klux Klan as an effort to stop the spread of the Republican Party and to re-establish Democratic control in Southern states. Blacks, who were all Republican at that time, were the primary targets of violence.
▪ Between 1870 and 1875, the Republican Congress passed many pro-black civil rights laws. But in 1876, Democrats took control of the House, and no further race-based civil rights laws passed until 1957. In 1892, Democrats gained control of the House, the Senate and the White House, and repealed all the Republican-passed civil rights laws. That enabled the Southern Democrats to pass the Jim Crow laws, poll taxes, literacy tests, and so on in their individual states.
▪ Only 64 percent of Democrats in Congress voted for the 1964 Civil Rights Act, while 80 percent of Republicans voted for the Act.
Looks like to me, the democrats are the one with the tendancy of racisim.
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You could add that it was the first Republican president that freed the slaves.Swift
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My mind's eye sees W hanging around a "minority" a lot easier than John Kerry or Al Gore.... not that that has much weight to it, just something I can/can't see happening....
Thanks Swift, I didnt know those things
Thanks Swift, I didnt know those things
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SwiftThat's more income and crime related then race related. I'm a middle class black guy and I can't get anymore help then you because my parents made "too much" money.
Anyway, racism is the most hypocritcally thing. Especially when it comes to black people. If a black person wants to teach a class on European history, nobody is going to say anything. But if a white person wants to teach Black American(notice how I DIDN'T say Afro-American?) History, everyone goes nuts. What kind of lunacy is that?
My fiancee wanted to work at the new Black American history museum but was told that since she's white, there is almost zero chance of her getting hired. That's RACIST. Not to mention just plain stupid.
I really hate double standards.
One of the best posts about this subject I have seen. 👍
Maybe it's me being wrong but I personally feel that sometimes black americans are far more racist than any other ethnicity. It seems as though black americans will pull the race card out far before any other group. I'm almost certain that BET would flip out if there were a White Entertainment Television channel released that played nothing but white entertainers. The black american community would be in an uproar! Nobody is in upheival over BET though.
One thing I still have failed to understand is the use of the "n" word. Blacks can use it and whites can't. Double standard? Irony? I don't know really what to call it. I just know that I don't go around calling my white friends Honkeys.
I'm not sure if I have a leg to stand on with anything I've said. I'm just bored and surfing around and decided I'd put in my two cents on this subject. I'm open to any criticism and apologize if anythign I've written in this post has been found offensive.
Keef
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Oooo, a thread about racism. Everyone knows the word n*gger is bad. I do, too, that's why I only use it in appropriate situations. I have created a new meaning for it, forgetting its old meaning. The new meaning is "-describing a stupid, ignorant, disrespectful, undesirable person of any race." I have plenty of black friends at school, none of whom are "n***ers". There is this one white kid that disrespects everyone, especially the ladies, and just generally doesn't give a crap. He's a n***er. See the difference?
But there is a problem. I'll use New Orleans as an example. If you watched the news, you only saw black people, probably 90%, that were raping, pilaging, and shooting their guns. I'm sure there was a little bit of everybody mixed in there, but all the news showed was black people.
I think black people sort of promote racism, even though they hate it. One day, a few years back, my dad and I were driving slowly down an alley and there was a black family walking in front of us. They had just come from the store, which was only about a block away. That's fine. Problem is, they didn't get out of the way like, well, just about everyone else would. They looked back at us and gave us that "stare". That's the kind of crap that promotes racism. They weren't black, they were n***ers.
I don't like stupid people. I can't help the fact that many black people around my area choose to fit the profile. The kids are just to focused on becoming a rapper when they grow up. They aren't going to become a rapper, and when you tell them that they think you're being racist. But that's in my area, Dayton, OH, and suburbs. We don't have these "problems" with other races. I wish the Arabic people weren't so secretive, though, and come out to talk every now and then, so I could be sure they weren't planning something.
And what's with this "African American" thing? How many black Americans were born in Africa? Not many. My family has a German heritage, so I would like to be called a North Central European American, please. They're black, I'm white, we're all Americans.
But there is a problem. I'll use New Orleans as an example. If you watched the news, you only saw black people, probably 90%, that were raping, pilaging, and shooting their guns. I'm sure there was a little bit of everybody mixed in there, but all the news showed was black people.
I think black people sort of promote racism, even though they hate it. One day, a few years back, my dad and I were driving slowly down an alley and there was a black family walking in front of us. They had just come from the store, which was only about a block away. That's fine. Problem is, they didn't get out of the way like, well, just about everyone else would. They looked back at us and gave us that "stare". That's the kind of crap that promotes racism. They weren't black, they were n***ers.
I don't like stupid people. I can't help the fact that many black people around my area choose to fit the profile. The kids are just to focused on becoming a rapper when they grow up. They aren't going to become a rapper, and when you tell them that they think you're being racist. But that's in my area, Dayton, OH, and suburbs. We don't have these "problems" with other races. I wish the Arabic people weren't so secretive, though, and come out to talk every now and then, so I could be sure they weren't planning something.
And what's with this "African American" thing? How many black Americans were born in Africa? Not many. My family has a German heritage, so I would like to be called a North Central European American, please. They're black, I'm white, we're all Americans.
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Wow... this thread has been relegated to the past...
Upon having a brief discussion with Keef about race in the context of Ron Paul's campaign, and learning that apparently there has been no challenged his views on race, I was curious to see what previous discussions race GTPlanet has actually grappled with.
Thing is that, from what I've managed to see from perusing these posts, most of you think that either racism no longer exists (and if people think it does, they think it no longer plays an important role in our lives). Sociologists refer to this as colorblindness.
Race scholars would tell you that things, today, are comparable to the pre-Civil Rights Era, and that any signs of progress have been effectively done away with.
http://www.sociologyinfocus.com/2012/01/09/got-whiteness-scholars-say-youre-racist/
Racism isn't so much attitudes, but a system of advantages and disadvantages. This system operates according to historical forces that we, as Americans, have been timid on getting down and dirty with.
I hope you're joking on the first part. I know white neighbors that are all to themselves. You know what people think of them? That they're peaceful, calm people. None of this "secretive" and "plotting crap." Question is, why do Muslims have the burden of letting you be sure that they're not planning something?
On the second part... it has to do with identity. Some people ID as something, others as something else. Just a choice. As for me, my parents are from El Salvador, but I was born here, making me a US Citizen, an American. But let me tell you, that sometimes my "American-ness" has been questioned. I may be an American, but in the eyes of others, I'm just a Salvadoran (or a Mexican, cause some people don't really differentiate). Blacks have also gone through ages of second-class citizenship.
Upon having a brief discussion with Keef about race in the context of Ron Paul's campaign, and learning that apparently there has been no challenged his views on race, I was curious to see what previous discussions race GTPlanet has actually grappled with.
Thing is that, from what I've managed to see from perusing these posts, most of you think that either racism no longer exists (and if people think it does, they think it no longer plays an important role in our lives). Sociologists refer to this as colorblindness.
Race scholars would tell you that things, today, are comparable to the pre-Civil Rights Era, and that any signs of progress have been effectively done away with.
http://www.sociologyinfocus.com/2012/01/09/got-whiteness-scholars-say-youre-racist/
Racism isn't so much attitudes, but a system of advantages and disadvantages. This system operates according to historical forces that we, as Americans, have been timid on getting down and dirty with.
You created a meaning that ignores the history the word has had since the days of slavery. I don't see why you would feel the need to use this word over "dumbass."
I hope you're joking on the first part. I know white neighbors that are all to themselves. You know what people think of them? That they're peaceful, calm people. None of this "secretive" and "plotting crap." Question is, why do Muslims have the burden of letting you be sure that they're not planning something?
On the second part... it has to do with identity. Some people ID as something, others as something else. Just a choice. As for me, my parents are from El Salvador, but I was born here, making me a US Citizen, an American. But let me tell you, that sometimes my "American-ness" has been questioned. I may be an American, but in the eyes of others, I'm just a Salvadoran (or a Mexican, cause some people don't really differentiate). Blacks have also gone through ages of second-class citizenship.
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Looking back, that post was in 2006 so Keef was 6 years younger and perhaps a bit immature. But I think he was being sarcastic/satirical/whatever.
If people want to get rid of racism, in an odd way, we have to stop pointing things out. If we point out that so-and-so "is the first X minority to accomplish Y" for example, that's still pointing out that race matters. Which it doesn't. Of course, there are landmarks to be recognised but I feel that if we are to really bring in equality we have to stop caring about when a minority or a majority accomplishes or doesn't accomplish something and explicitly mentioning that they're a member of group X, Y or Z.
I'm not sure I've made my point quite clear about this. I find racism hard to discuss because I haven't really experienced 'racism' personally. Certainly, I have experienced forms of bigotry, because I'm ginger and Welsh. But I don't think I've ever felt opressed because I'm white. I have said racist things in the past (not to anybdy personally), I'm not proud of it and I won't deny it and anybody who says they've never been racist at some point in their lives is a liar, but I'm a tolerant person at heart and I don't really care about someone's skin colour. It makes no odds to me.
I feel as though I'm digging myself an even bigger hole, so I'll go off and think things through better.
If people want to get rid of racism, in an odd way, we have to stop pointing things out. If we point out that so-and-so "is the first X minority to accomplish Y" for example, that's still pointing out that race matters. Which it doesn't. Of course, there are landmarks to be recognised but I feel that if we are to really bring in equality we have to stop caring about when a minority or a majority accomplishes or doesn't accomplish something and explicitly mentioning that they're a member of group X, Y or Z.
I'm not sure I've made my point quite clear about this. I find racism hard to discuss because I haven't really experienced 'racism' personally. Certainly, I have experienced forms of bigotry, because I'm ginger and Welsh. But I don't think I've ever felt opressed because I'm white. I have said racist things in the past (not to anybdy personally), I'm not proud of it and I won't deny it and anybody who says they've never been racist at some point in their lives is a liar, but I'm a tolerant person at heart and I don't really care about someone's skin colour. It makes no odds to me.
I feel as though I'm digging myself an even bigger hole, so I'll go off and think things through better.
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But we have to admit its pretty stupid when Americans refer to other people as "insert ethnicity" American.
They can be referred to as, you know, just Americans.
They can be referred to as, you know, just Americans.
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The correct term for yourself is whatever you want it to be.
I'm Welsh and I have always thought of that as my nationality. I am also British; I have a strictly British passport and on every legal document about me I am British, but because of the unique way in which the United Kingdom is made up of four different constituent countries, (something which can not be compared 100% to the US and its states), we also have the luxury of a 'second nationality', and I prefer to be refered to as Welsh rather than British, whilst at the same time I do not shun or ignore the fact that I am legally only a British citizen.
You can always expand things further and further;
Welsh -> British -> West European -> European -> Northern Hemispherian -> Earthling
American -> African/European/Wherever American -> North American -> Northern Hemispherian -> Earthling
I think it all depends on your own personal preferences. I don't know any 'African Britons', but I do know 'Black Britons'. I also know 'Englishmen' who happen to be black and don't make a deal out of it.
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My point exactly. We refer to blacks in America as "African American". We never thought to ask what they prefer to be called. In fact, most blacks I know hate being called "African American". They've told me they'd rather be called black. In fact, the term "African American" makes it sound as if they're not real Americans, so I can see why they despise the term.
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The president who is a democrat is African American. Isn't that interesting. I dont sense any racism coming from the democrats nowadays. In addition, you cannot cite stats from the 1800's and then say that the democratic party of today shares any of the same beliefs etc...... So this post is irrelevant and that last statement is egregious.
gaah. I dont think people like being called either. Why do people need out point out or even try to find out which one people like being called. Why cant people just call a guy by there name?!
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