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Reimagined Group B Rally Cars
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- sparkytooth50001
Pretty sure you can do that yourself now
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- s_dawg4
Nah, not my bag... Not an artist, no good with my hands in that way, and the double vision doesn't help much either!
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- sparkytooth50001
You can download someone else's livery if you can't make your own then.
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- Scuderia_Paul
How about a Group B Jay Leno Tank Car?!
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Oh god...
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I have genuine concerns about the rally experience in GTS.
The new cars will not matter if we get the same rally experience that we got in GT5 and GT6.
We need point to point stages. No more full grids starting at the same time. The wall of dust or snow makes it impossible to be fast and clean.
A simple timer would do. 16 people in a room, stagger each racers starting time by 1-2 mins. You'll have clear vision and a clear track. It's you against the clock. The way it should be.
It's gotta be done right this time.
Also, I can't stop looking at that 'Stang' and not be impressed at how sexy it is!
The new cars will not matter if we get the same rally experience that we got in GT5 and GT6.
We need point to point stages. No more full grids starting at the same time. The wall of dust or snow makes it impossible to be fast and clean.
A simple timer would do. 16 people in a room, stagger each racers starting time by 1-2 mins. You'll have clear vision and a clear track. It's you against the clock. The way it should be.
It's gotta be done right this time.
Also, I can't stop looking at that 'Stang' and not be impressed at how sexy it is!
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- Stephen220378
Why not just use the real Group B cars? a few have been in GT before in standard form, so why not just make them into premium or "super premium" and have proper group B rally cars in GT Sport?
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GTS is more focused in modern cars, doesn't mean all the rooster will be modern, but the old Gr.B cars probably will not be at GTS. Besides, the PD builds are made following FIA specifications. On GT7, they probably return
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Maybe PD used the old specifications from the real Group B, or the FIA and PD made new specifications following today's WRC specifications. We don't know, I'm saying it basing on the Gr. 3 /Gr. 1 cars, that follows the FIA specifications of each class (GT3-Gr.3/GT1-LMPs-Gr.1)
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PD probably having fun with there own interpretation of 2017 WRC regs (360hp, big aero).
Rally version of this would be nice. RWD as well.
Rally version of this would be nice. RWD as well.
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- Pyano1132
The VGT's are running alongside the LMP1's and GT3's at equal pace and the performance is matched. that's within this game's specifications for each individual group. Some may not like the designs or the fact that they are included in the game, but that doesn't deny the fact they are within GT Sport's regulations.
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FIA specs for real life, or for the video game? If it was real life then the only VGT's that would really count are the Mazda, Lexus, Bugatti, Alpine and Toyota, but if the regulations are made specifically for the game then any car at all could be included in any category VGT or otherwise
girabyt3 was obviously talking about real life specifications, there is no such thing as FIA specifications for games. He's saying the cars follow FIA specifications for GT3, LMP etc. As I say, the Gr.3 cars based on real life cars like the Alfa and Jaguar could hypothetically become GT3 cars but the VGT, definitely not. None of them. Wrong engines, wrong power delivery, wrong aero parts, wrong shape, one is missing a roof and so on.
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Perhaps there is intended significance in calling the class Gr.3 and not GT3.
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From what I recall of the information during the Copper Box event was that the Group 3 cars are built to FIA GT3 specifications, but nothing was said about the other 'classes'. It's likely that something was lost in translation though, they could just be built to match GT3 car specs. Similar to how the Renault RS.01 has ran in GT races alongside fully fledged GT3 spec cars in real life.
To be fair, GT3 spec cars are a bit faster than they were a few years ago when GT6 came out. Though sometimes Polyphony Digital add in the 'de-restricted' car specs, I believe in previous games some of the Group C cars were in their qualifying engine mode.
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Ok? Where are you going with this? If the VGT Gr.1 and Gr.3 cars existed they would not be homologated as GT3 or LMP-x cars, they were not created to real life specification, end of.
Yes, because not all cars are GT3 specification. Exactly what I'm saying.
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I thought you were saying that you didn't want VGTs in your Gran Turismo Sport because they didn't look or act exactly like real life GT3 cars.
I'm trying to say that GR.3 is not the same as GT3, so it shouldn't matter if VGTs are permitted or not. Some might not like concept cars, but I'm personally fine with all of them except the Peugeot and VW.
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If it's these cars that are to compete in the Championship over-seen by the FIA, then my only criteria is that the cars perform equally.
(I don't mean carbon copy performance, but very good BoP)
Whether someone wishes to drive the Ferrari GT3 or the open top VW VGT, it makes no difference to me.
(I don't mean carbon copy performance, but very good BoP)
Whether someone wishes to drive the Ferrari GT3 or the open top VW VGT, it makes no difference to me.
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Your initial argument was that VGT cars were not built for FIA's specifications and therefore should not be legal for competition. Do you know what regulations they are not complying with? GR.3 may not be the same as GT3, so I don't get why you think they aren't legal.
If you do believe GR.3 is the same as GT3 in real life, where are your sources?
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