RIDOX Replica Garage Fan Club - Suspended

[DaBomm4]

Actually, the races are on Saturday mornings. Not Sunday.

I can't read some days. Still available this weekend, I might have work interfere sometimes though. Thanks for the catch.

Edit: Yup, says Saturday, plain as day now, swore it said Sunday the first time. Also, its 1am local time so that could be the problem.

 

[Ridox2JZGTE]

Hey, I was wondering if you guys would be ok if I joined in for the practice? I'm not much of a good racer but I did enjoy my time in both of these tunes back when @CyKosis1973 started the BTCC Racing series. Also, I joined the club and still have a few of my favorite @Ridox2JZGTE tunes hidden in my garage somewhere.

Edit: Fixed tag.

Welcome aboard and have fun racing

 

[DaBomm4]

Welcome aboard and have fun racing

It'll be fun to get back to an online race with these cars, I really enjoyed the tune we worked on for the BTCC up to the point where I had to pull out.

 

[Ridox2JZGTE]

@danbojte, Should we allow the Scirocco to use the Loose setup ? This will greatly help with rotation and eagerness to turn in The scirocco had lower rear toe out as base, and may not be on par with the civic in terms of agility. The loose setup helps to keep things in balance.

 

[ALB123]

@danbojte, Should we allow the Scirocco to use the Loose setup ? This will greatly help with rotation and eagerness to turn in The scirocco had lower rear toe out as base, and may not be on par with the civic in terms of agility. The loose setup helps to keep things in balance.

Obviously, I will defer to @danbojte, but just to throw my two cents into this conversation -- I ran about 10 laps with each car setup the way Page 1 says to set them up (NOT using the loose setup on the VW) and my lap times were very, very close. I was a teeny bit faster with the Honda, but I used the VW first. I wouldn't be surprised if I were faster with the Honda solely because I was now warmed up to the track with that PP level. I'm talking less than a second difference per lap. Next time I run practice laps I will use the Honda first and see if I end up running better with the VW since I will be using it last.

I must admit that I ran these 10 lap stints in Arcade Mode, so I didn't have to take into account tire wear, which is obviously very important in our Saturday race...My next session will be in the official practice room so I can run with fuel & tire wear turned on.

@DaBomm4 -- So, 8AM EST is 1AM where you live? Ahh...I didn't realize. I see that you have Wisconsin listed as your home state, so I assumed you were only a time zone, or two at the most, behind me...My mistake!

 

[ALB123]

Oh, I meant to add:

@danbojte, when you post the Specifications for the car(s) that we're to use for the weekend race series, could you possibly also post Ridox's recommended brake balance for ABS=0. I know we can use any settings we want for brake balance, but it would at least give someone like me, who is pulling their hair out with ABS=0, a head start in figuring out what works best for my driving style. I believe Ridox usually post his recommended brake balance settings on his tune sheets in the Garage.

I forgot to mention, @DaBomm4, that's the only other rule that we've all agreed to follow. No ABS will be allowed. danbojte is obviously a sadist and he likes to see me smash into walls!! But seriously, I don't know if you drive without ABS already. I don't... It's tricky getting used to it. Others may disagree, but if you're as inexperienced with running ABS=0 as I was when we started the racing club, I would recommend to always err on the side of running a little bit lower break bias in the front and just remember to brake a little earlier than you're used to. There's nothing worse than having to get on the brakes fairly hard and having your car respond like it's on Lake Michigan in the middle of January!

 

[danbojte]

@DaBomm4 Welcome to the Club! Happy to have you. 👍 @ALB123 has guided you very well and I thank him for this and all.

@Ridox2JZGTE If you say it is a better choice for the VW, I will do the changes gladly, just let me know.

Edit: @ALB123 Sure, I'll post that too.

 

[danbojte]

its 1am local time

Wisconsin is 8 hours back from my time and 5 from UTC, so your local Race time should be 7:00 AM.

 

[ALB123]

Wisconsin is 8 hours back from my time and 5 from UTC, so your local Race time should be 7:00 AM.

That's what I was thinking too -- that he's 1 hour behind me. The races start at 8am for me...but maybe he's in a different time zone currently and Wisconsin just happens to be his home? I was perplexed by that too...

 

[danbojte]

That's what I was thinking too -- that he's 1 hour behind me. The races start at 8am for me...but maybe he's in a different time zone currently and Wisconsin just happens to be his home? I was perplexed by that too...

Yes, this could be the explanation. 👍

 

[danbojte]

I'll be forced to start deleting one by one, every week, an event from the Club Events section, because we reached the maximum 10 Events allowed for a Club. So, if everybody is interested to save something from there, you should do that now.

 

[danbojte]

Event has passed

Double Event!

I.

Schedule

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Track

Spoiler: Silverstone National Circuit

Silverstone is one of the most famous racing circuits in the world, and the BTCC utilises the short National Circuit layout to maximise the action for the Northamptonshire fans, all of whom can enjoy grandstand seating at some of the world’s most famous corners included in their entry ticket price.

Long straights and tight corners make for several overtaking opportunities on every lap, so action is guaranteed throughout the race. Silverstone played host to one of the most memorable touring car battles of recent years in 2013, as Jason Plato and Andrew Jordan went bumper to bumper for the lead in an incredibly close and hard-fought battle.

Cars

Spoiler: Matsui FD2 Civic One Make Champion Car for GTP BTCC Sports Soft

CAR : Honda Civic Type R FD2 '08
Tire : Sports Soft

Specs
Horsepower: 305 HP / 305BHP at 8500 RPM
Torque : 220.0 ft-lb / 30kgfm at 6600 RPM
Power Limiter at : 97.7%
Weight: 1300 kg
Ballast : 160 kg
Ballast Position : 30 ( 1 click away from 55/45 which means front heaviest possible )
Weight Distribution : 54 / 46
Performance Points: 481

GT AUTO
Oil change
Improve Body Rigidity ( INSTALLED IN THIS BUILD ) - MANDATORY - real one make civic has roll cage.
Wheels : Standard Size RAYS 57Gainer
Car Paint : Pure White
Aero Kits Type A
Flat Floor Type A
Custom Rear Wing
Wing Mount Standard F
Wing Small I
Winglets Small N
Height -8
Width +5
Car Number : #

Tuning Parts Installed :
Engine Tuning Stage 1
Sports Computer
Sports Exhaust
Isometric Exhaust Manifold
Catalytic Converter Sports
Low RPM Turbo Kit
Triple Plate Clutch
Adjustable LSD
Fully Customizable Suspension
Weight Reduction Stage 1
Carbon Hood ( Body Color )
Window Weight Reduction
Racing Brakes Kit

Suspension - TEIN SRC Super Racing Circuit Master Ultimate Spec Coilover F:10, R:8, 10, 12
Visual + Low Camber
Front, Rear

Ride Height: 100 75
Spring Rate 10.00 12.00
Dampers (Compression): 4 8
Dampers (Extension): 5 4
ARB 4 6
Camber 0.5 1.2
Toe 0.13 -0.66

DOG CLUTCH TRANSMISSION - BTCC Build Specification XTRAC 516 Touring Car
6 Speed Sequential
Set Default
Set Final to 5.339
Set Auto Max Speed at 180kmh / 112mph
Adjust each gear :
1st 3.167
2nd 2.286
3rd 1.867
4th 1.600
5th 1.353
6th 1.182
Set Final : 4.000

LSD - 1 Way ATS Silent Type Metal LSD type R - Matsui Spec Low Lock Medium Preload
Initial Torque : 17
Acceleration Sensitivity: 17
Braking Sensitivity: 5

AERO
Rear : 5 ( MIN )

Brakes:
Front / Rear : 3/7 - Free choice, including Standard/Racing Brakes

Spoiler: Scirocco GTP BTCC Sports Soft

CAR : Volkswagen Scirocco R '10
Tire : Sports Soft

Specs - BTCC GTP
Horsepower: 300 HP at 5900 RPM
Torque : 276.6 ft-lb at 5100 RPM
Power Limiter at : 95.6%
Weight: 1300 kg
Ballast : 135 kg
Ballast Position : -24
Weight Distribution : 54 /46
Performance Points: 489

GT AUTO
NO Oil change
Improve Body Rigidity ( INSTALLED IN THIS BUILD ) - MANDATORY
Aero Kits Type A
Flat Floor Type A
Rear Wing Special Wing Type A
Wheels : Standard Size RAYS GTS in Black Chrome
Car Paint : Tangerine Scream

Tuning Parts Installed :
Engine Tuning Stage 1
Sports Computer
Racing Exhaust
Triple Plate Clutch
Adjustable LSD
Fully Customizable Suspension
Weight Reduction Stage 3
Carbon Hood ( Body Color )
Racing Brakes Kit

Suspension - KW Competition Racing 3 Way Damper 120/90
Loose
Front, Rear

Ride Height: 90 90
Spring Rate: 12.23 9.17
Dampers (Compression): 7 8
Dampers (Extension): 8 3
Anti-Roll Bars: 4 6
Camber Angle: 0.8 1.6
Toe Angle: 0.13 -0.63

DOG CLUTCH TRANSMISSION - XTRAC Touring Car 516 Series
BTCC Build Spec
Set Default
Set Final to 4.430
Set Auto Max Speed at 200kmh / 124mph
Adjust each gear :
1st 3.167
2nd 2.286
3rd 1.867
4th 1.600
5th 1.353
6th 1.150
Set Final : 3.615 - Short Track ( OPTIONAL : 3.066 Final - more top speed / Long Track )

Alternative Loose LSD - Recommended
LSD - 1 Way VWR Plate Type LSD ( Low Lock )
Initial Torque : 20
Acceleration Sensitivity: 20
Braking Sensitivity: 5

AERO
Rear : 5 ( MIN )

Brakes:
3/5 ( personal BB) - Free choice, including Standard/Racing Brakes

Both cars must be used. New race - Next car!

Colors - Free choice
Brakes - Free choice
Rims, same size - Free choice

Racing numbers with Gran Turismo logo are mandatory!

Penalty: Weak, Wear: Very Fast, Damage: Light
No Aids & ABS

2 x 30 min Races
60 min between Starts

Please read and follow the
GTPlanet OnLine Racing (OLR) Rules & Guidelines

Important!
The races will Start on time. The room will be opened 30 min before the race.

Starting Grid

#3 @ALB123

#4 @DaBomm4


#7 @danbojte


#11 @Ridox2JZGTE

#44 @Brewguy44

#46 @Thorin Cain

#54 @Lewis_Hamilton_

#81 @OdeFinn

Results:



II.

Extra Wangan Race - Veyron

Schedule

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Track:

SSR7

1 x 2 Laps

Car:
Bugatti EB 16.4 Veyron '09 Car & Driver Test 2005-2008 Replica 1025HP 640PP Comfort Soft​

Event Tune:

Spoiler: Bugatti Veyron 16.4 '09 or '13

Bugatti Veyron 16.4 '09 or '13
Tire : Sports Medium

Specs Official Power - BASE
Horsepower: 986 HP / 1001 PS at 6000 RPM
Torque: 922.5 ft-lb at 2500 RPM
Power Limiter at : 100%
Weight: 2035 kg
Ballast : 147 kg
Ballast Position : 13
Weight Distribution : 45 / 55 - used real life 44.6 / 55.4
Performance Points: 633

GT AUTO
NO Oil change
Improve Body Rigidity ( NOT INSTALLED )
Wheels : Standard Size Stock
Car Paint : GT Japanese 002-C (Free choice)

Tuning Parts Installed :
Adjustable LSD
Fully Customizable Suspension
Fully Customizable Dog Clutch Transmission

Suspension - Eibach Springs/Bilstein Dampers Multi Stage Height Adjustable Coilover Kit
Handling Mode
Base Street/Track Alignment
Front, Rear

Ride Height: 79 94
Spring Rate: 10.71 10.71
Dampers (Compression): 4 2
Dampers (Extension): 3 4
Anti-Roll Bars: 3 4
Camber Angle: 1.0 1.0
Toe Angle: 0.05 0.15

DOG CLUTCH TRANSMISSION - 7 Speed DSG Ricardo with corrected final
3.64 Final + 0.71 Transfer Gear

Set Default
Set Final 3.64
Set Auto Max Speed to 330kmh / 205mph
Adjust each gear :
1st 3.176
2nd 2.263
3rd 1.667
4th 1.290
5th 1.057
6th 0.878
7th 0.795
Set Final Gear : 2.484 ( corrected calculation based on speed at 6600RPM revlimit, with 242mph at 6600RPM on 6th and 253mph at 6250RPM on 7th gear )

LSD Ricardo/VW Rear Active LSD / Front Open
Front
Initial Torque : 5
Acceleration Sensitivity: 5
Braking Sensitivity: 5

Rear
Initial Torque : 14
Acceleration Sensitivity: 36
Braking Sensitivity: 16

AERO
Rear = 200 ( Fixed )

Brake Balance:
5/9 ( personal BB) or for ABS 0 wheel : 5/9, for ABS 1 - feel free to use your preferred brake balance.

Recommended setting for DS3 user :

Steering sensitivity at +1 or +2, all aids off, except ABS 1 ( if not comfortable with ABS 0 ) with 5/9 brake balance as starting point.

Colors - Free choice
Brakes - Free choice

Racing numbers with Gran Turismo logo are mandatory!

Penalty: Weak, Wear: Fast, Damage: Light
No Aids & ABS

Starting Grid

#7 @danbojte

#11 @Ridox2JZGTE

#44 @Brewguy44

#46 @Thorin Cain


Results

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[TurnLeft]

Hey, I was wondering if you guys would be ok if I joined in for the practice? I'm not much of a good racer but I did enjoy my time in both of these tunes back when @CyKosis1973 started the BTCC Racing series. Also, I joined the club and still have a few of my favorite @Ridox2JZGTE tunes hidden in my garage somewhere.

Edit: Fixed tag.

That's great buddy 👍, you come in and join an it's the first race that I'm going to miss , I hope we'll get together for another one at some time later, have fun and small advice: you can set the BB to your liking, @Ridox2JZGTE has them set a bit aggressive, you may want to tone those brakes down a notch or two.

 

[OdeFinn]

@danbojte @Ridox2JZGTE what wing is that on scirocco? Generic A, Special A, or all settings A on custom without modification?

 

[danbojte]

@danbojte @Ridox2JZGTE what wing is that on scirocco? Generic A, Special A, or all settings A on custom without modification?

It is Special A.

 

[OdeFinn]

It is Special A.

Ok, glad for quick response, coz just finished building those, now taking few test laps, after installing right wing..

 

[danbojte]

Ok, glad for quick response, coz just finished building those, now taking few test laps, after installing right wing..

👍

 

[DaBomm4]

Thanks for all the support guys, and I have done some abs driving before so I have a small understanding of brake balance adjustment for ABS 0 use, @Ridox2JZGTE has helped me a lot with my curiosity on the subject. Also, I did a crazy thing a few months ago, I took a stock RUF BTR on GT5 to some tracks with ABS 0 and I feel I gained some useful knowledge there. From there I released an ABS 0 tune for the RUF BTR in GT6.

Also, I'm in Minnesota right now, so my time zone is still the same, and the schedule says 7am like @danbojte deducted earlier.

This will be a good pace from the current FITT M Challenge, looking forward to it, I guess its time to dust off these cars a little.

 

[DaBomm4]

@ALB123 sorry for the confusion, what I meant was that at the time of posting it was 1am, so I was a little tired, blaming the time for why I thought the race was on Sunday.

 

[OdeFinn]

Now cars have been tuned, tested, ran few race stints, made race plans, cleared room for trophy.. Waiting Saturday

 

[danbojte]

Now cars have been tuned, tested, ran few race stints, made race plans, cleared room for trophy.. Waiting Saturday

👍

 

[danbojte]

To everyone: Always Bookmark the Event Post and check it often to be sure you're updated.

P.S. : I'm using so much beer from @Brewguy44 .

 

[OdeFinn]

To everyone: Always Bookmark the Event Post and check it often to be sure you're updated.

P.S. : I'm using so much beer from @Brewguy44 .

There is no mention about free choice of rims in same size range. Look is everything, image is nothing, matte pink panther brake calibers made difference!

 

[danbojte]

Now cars have been tuned, tested, ran few race stints, made race plans, cleared room for trophy.. Waiting Saturday

Could you elaborate the strategy, please.

 

[danbojte]

There is no mention about free choice of rims in same size range. Look is everything, image is nothing, matte pink panther brake calibers made difference!

Done. 👍

 

[DaBomm4]

Some nice pictures you got going on up there @danbojte.

 

[danbojte]

Some nice pictures you got going on up there @danbojte.

Thanks.

 

[danbojte]

Joined DaBoom's Practice session.

 

[OdeFinn]

Could you elaborate the strategy, please.

Well..
Plan a) keep right leg ankle straight most of race and be sure at nose cuts finish line first.
Plan b) variable..

Only checked what limits (lap range where car is going on good race pace) I have to play on fuel and tires, actual race plan depends how first stint goes, even lenght of first stint is open till race shows where to pit in. But knowing what kind of choices I can use is most important.

 

[danbojte]