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Russian Invasion of Ukraine
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His army is trashed by Ukraine and I don't see any signs of mobilization here. To start global nuclear war you should have balls.
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Peace talks have resumed after a lengthy pause. I would have thought both sides have now suffered quite enough to want it to stop, but I suspect there yet is more appetite for suffering on both sides. Zelensky seems quite receptive to neutrality although how security guarantees can be made is a puzzle. The real sticking points are territorial concessions. Over the next few weeks I expect rather shocking changes in the locus and level of violence.
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How did US - backed far right - led revolution in Ukraine help bring us to the situation we find ourselves in regard to the Russian invasion..?
Once again US brings "democracy" right to our frontsteps like he did 23 years ago again in european soil,bombing yugoslavia.
This not a attack on american people.
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Once again US brings "democracy" right to our frontsteps like he did 23 years ago again in european soil,bombing yugoslavia.
This not a attack on american people.
A US-Backed, Far Right–Led Revolution in Ukraine Helped Bring Us to the Brink of War
In 2014 Ukraine, great power gamesmanship, righteous anger at a corrupt status quo, and opportunistic far-right extremists toppled the government in the Maidan Revolution. Today’s crisis in Ukraine can’t be understood without understanding Maidan.
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Calling Russia’s Attack ‘Unprovoked’ Lets US Off the Hook
The “unprovoked” descriptor obscures a long history of provocative behavior from the United States in regards to Ukraine.
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What You Should Really Know About Ukraine
Media echoed the view that the US should have an active role in Ukrainian politics and enforce its perspective through military threats.
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Far right = Authoritarian/dictator. It's not democracy in the slightest then. But sure, keep telling yourself that Russia was nervous about Ukraine invading them.How did US - backed far right - led revolution in Ukraine help bring us to the situation we find ourselves in regard to the Russian invasion..?
Once again US brings "democracy" right to our frontsteps like he did 23 years ago again in european soil,bombing yugoslavia.
This not a attack on american people.
A US-Backed, Far Right–Led Revolution in Ukraine Helped Bring Us to the Brink of War
In 2014 Ukraine, great power gamesmanship, righteous anger at a corrupt status quo, and opportunistic far-right extremists toppled the government in the Maidan Revolution. Today’s crisis in Ukraine can’t be understood without understanding Maidan.
Calling Russia’s Attack ‘Unprovoked’ Lets US Off the Hook
The “unprovoked” descriptor obscures a long history of provocative behavior from the United States in regards to Ukraine.
What You Should Really Know About Ukraine
Media echoed the view that the US should have an active role in Ukrainian politics and enforce its perspective through military threats.
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The revolution in 2014 happened because the president at the time chose loyalty to Putin over loyalty to the people of Ukraine. The parliament had decided to seek closer relations to the EU, the president refused it.
Yugoslavia was bombed to bring an end to the war in Kosovo and the ethnic cleansing there, it was not about "bringing democracy" of any kind. USA has not bombed Ukraine so not sure what you mean with "once again".
Who said that it is?
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That doesn't really address the notion that it's circular. Cyclical? Maybe. Of course it's less likely to be cyclical when you get to the dictators, because part of what makes them dictators the tendency to cripple processes that allow for democratic regime change.Sort of an adaptation to this:
Horseshoe theory - Wikipedia
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I could argue that the opposite. Tyrants can easily fuel those to rebel against them. However, we are going too far off-topic so maybe we can have a new thread for this if need be.
I'm curious as to what concessions Putin is making (if any). The aggressor kind of needs to move back especially if he is being decimated.
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doubtful Ukraine would claim it if it was a false flag. Alarming development.
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Even the Reddit Live thread only has a single post on this incident with little context and zero verified reports of anything. The only thing that's known is that an ammo dump in Belgorod exploded. Two different Russian media outlets are reporting two different things. A google search suggests that a single Ukrainian reporter suggested it was a Ukrainian attack, and that was reported by the Daily Mail to boot. So...zero verification.
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