Russian Invasion of Ukraine

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So I'm not going on anything concrete here, but could the Russians be doing this in hopes that the Ukrainians overshoot their target and hit the defunct power plant? It seems like it would be right up Russia's alley to say "see, the Ukrainians are unleashing radiation on Europe, they're Nazis!"
No one apart from the brainwashed Russians, Serbs and a bunch of wannabe communists believes a word that comes out of Russia anymore, so who do they think they can fool?
 
Apparently there are a bunch of Russians trying to get themselves to glow in the dark as they're digging themselves in and fortifying position in the exclusion zone around Chernobyl and in the Red Forest.

So the Stalker series will now become a reality.
 
global energy, fertilizer and food prices, which I expect to rise by at least 20% due to this invasion. I expect the Russian invaders currently in the vicinity of Kiev to retreat to more defensible positions in the immediate future.
Russia is doing everything to make USA economy tougher, gives NATO reason to exist and at the same time sending its own economy and army into abyss. Great.
 


One of the founder of Wagner Group is wanted by the FBI.
 
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Our brilliant President, Joe Biden, in an unscripted moment has called for regime change in Russia.

In further unscripted gaffes, the president said NATO would respond "in kind" if Russia used chemical weapons, and told the 82nd Airborne they were going to Ukraine.
 
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It has several times crossed my mind in recent weeks that a far away Russian nuke that's not seen the light of day in a long time could end my life. Of all the things... Hopefully it doesn't come to that.
 
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It has several times crossed my mind in recent weeks that a far away Russian nuke that's not seen the light of day in a long time could end my life. Of all the things... Hopefully it doesn't come to that.
I'm concerned, too. A large percentage of the US arsenal of nuclear weapons is stored just a few dozen miles from Seattle, and only about one mile from my fishing cabin where I spend much of the summer. This base would undoubtedly be among the first targets hit in a strategic nuclear exchange. But I think Russia is now groping for a way to deescalate, albeit Biden's bellicose gaffes are probably not helping.
 
Our brilliant President, Joe Biden, in an unscripted moment has called for regime change in Russia.

In further unscripted gaffes, the president said NATO would respond "in kind" if Russia used chemical weapons, and told the 82nd Airborne they were going to Ukraine.


Oh boy. I wonder if his dementia will accelerate to the point where no one is able to make excuses for him anymore. Isn't it obvious he's not of sound mind?
 
Well, as an european I think he is doing great. I came to regard the USA as an unreliable ally, with a possibly treasonous President (meaning, caring more for his interests in Russia than for NATO) during the Trump era, but with Biden I have no such fears.

Also, what's not to like about the President of the USA calling for Russia to get rid of Putin, calling for Russia to become a democracy? Is it not diplomatic language? Who cares, Russia has just invaded a neighbouring country, Putin is a war criminal (and Biden called him as much), he should be gone (and Biden said it) and Russia should evolve to a true democracy (and Biden said it). About the response "in kind" for a chemical attack it is obvious that Biden isn't talking about an equal response but is making the menace that such a henious action will be met with a violent reaction from NATO. Not saying exactly what NATO would do is of course wise, it's not even up to him alone to decide.

That the White House is clarifying the USA doens't want a regime change is of course diplomaticspeak. What Biden said matters more, and what he said is what any democratic loving person and country wishes.

EDIT - just to clarify, Europe (or the sum of EU countries) still needs to become a military superpower, who knows what will happen to the USA in 2024 and if the Putin-loving clown will be voted again as President. And although Germany rearming itself is something I never thought I'd wish, I was very glad they decided to do just that. Germany and France (with its nuclear power status) geopolitically face the East and have the economic power to back their effort. Smaller countries in Europe (like my own) must also do their fair share towards that goal and I guess that must be the way.
 
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Well, as an european I think he is doing great. I came to regard the USA as an unreliable ally, with a possibly treasonous President (meaning, caring more for his interests in Russia than for NATO) during the Trump era, but with Biden I have no such fears.

Also, what's not to like about the President of the USA calling for Russia to get rid of Putin, calling for Russia to become a democracy? Is it not diplomatic language? Who cares, Russia has just invaded a neighbouring country, Putin is a war criminal (and Biden called him as much), he should be gone (and Biden said it) and Russia should evolve to a true democracy (and Biden said it). About the response "in kind" for a chemical attack it is obvious that Biden isn't talking about an equal response but is making the menace that such a henious action will be met with a violent reaction from NATO. Not saying exactly what NATO would do is of course wise, it's not even up to him alone to decide.

That the White House is clarifying the USA doens't want a regime change is of course diplomaticspeak. What Biden said matters more, and what he said is what any democratic loving person and country wishes.

EDIT - just to clarify, Europe (or the sum of EU countries) still needs to become a military superpower, who knows what will happen to the USA in 2024 and if the Putin-loving clown will be voted again as President. And although Germany rearming itself is something I never thought I'd wish, I was very glad they decided to do just that. Germany and France (with its nuclear power status) geopolitically face the East and have the economic power to back their effort. Smaller countries in Europe (like my own) must also do their fair share towards that goal and I guess that must be the way.
Agreeing with this. Both my foster country and my birth country (Sweden and Denmark) are raising their spending on military to 2% of BNP
 
The "sacred" - as he characterized it - US commitment to the infamous Article 5 of NATO , was expressed by US President Joe Biden to his Polish counterpart, Andrei Duda , with whom he met in Warsaw.

Poland has become a key hub for sending military equipment to Ukraine, and tens of thousands of NATO troops have been deployed in the country as part of preparations for war on the border with Russia.

"We consider Article 5 a sacred obligation and be assured of it," said Joe Biden. The Russian president "relies on the division, on being able to separate the east from the west wing" of NATO, he added, noting that so far Putin has not been able to do so.

On the occasion of the unacceptable Russian invasion of Ukraine, the US President called Vladimir Putin a "butcher", trying to portray the US-NATO as "pigeons of peace" with dozens of interventions and crimes against the people. Asked if Russia had changed its strategy in Ukraine, Biden said "I'm not sure they have changed."

Andrei Duda called on his US counterpart to speed up the purchase of military equipment, urging Poland to buy Patriot missiles, F-35 fighter jets, Abrams tanks and other offensive weapons. He also said that Poland wants to work closely with the United States to start producing nuclear energy.

(Sources: ΑΠΕ-ΜΠΕ, Reuters, AFP, dpa)



New crisis
Nails sharpen
New creases

Values fall
Produces new weapons
The bourgeoisie

Necrosite
hyenas
and vultures are hunting

And you, a citizen
, in the Molecules of the world
Without a homeland

(B. Z. From "Haiku of War and Refuge")
 

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Wasn't that obvious with every speech he made over at least the last 4 years?
Of course it was but everytime I hear him go gaga I wonder when those who still claim he just suffers from a little speech impediment will finally acknowledge he should be put in a home.
 
I don't understand the problem people have with Biden's speaking.

In Canada we had Cretien. Couldn't understand a word he said. And he was awesome. :)

 
I don't understand the problem people have with Biden's speaking.

In Canada we had Cretien. Couldn't understand a word he said. And he was awesome. :)


Portrayed by a Canadian. Current SNL has its moments, but those were among its best years.
 
Biden probably shouldn't have said that out loud even if it's obviously true and has been said by basically everyone living outside of Moscow for the past month, but my eyes rolled out of my head when morons got 25th Amendment trending again because of it. Graham openly said Putin should be assassinated by someone in the Russian government three weeks ago, and his opinion about that certainly didn't get the level of emotional response as Biden saying something everyone already knows will be a prerequisite for Russian sanctions going away anyway.




The main issue I see is that the White House walked it back instead of just ignoring he said it.
 
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Russia is doing everything to make USA economy tougher, gives NATO reason to exist and at the same time sending its own economy and army into abyss. Great.
yep, before invasion people in Czech Republic and Slovakia generally didn't like the idea of NATO bases and equipment in our country or at least regarded it as not necessary... now it's different story, nobody have any doubts that we absolutely need NATO, even our president who always had pro-Putin sentiments turned around.

... and Biden is fine for his age, he's 79 and while he might not have clearest mind he is sane enough not to call Putin "smart".
 
I'll take the "dementia" patient blurting out a regime change vs. the other option thinking Biden should just threaten nuclear warfare instead & false-flag attack Russia with Chinese F-22s....
I don't disagree but I also think it's necessary to be critical of both. Sycophants are useless but for those on whom they heap praise.
 
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