SCC - Ferrari 348 Challenge Series - Series Complete - Results Posted!

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Oh man, not exactly the easiest track to learn this game! Sure, I drove this track in FC, but back then I was a pad user and after all, this game is a whole another story with a wheel. If I'm trying to go for a fast lap, it seems that I drive off the track 8/10 times in the first section of the track. About 1/15 times I manage to do decent job on the first section instead of just surviving through it. Hard.

How does those leader boards work? If I drive offline time-trial, will it upload my time? Because there is one of my time and I have only driven offline but now I improved my time and the old time is still there. Or is there a delay in uploading times or do I have to do it manually?


Edit: Ok, so there is a delay, because now my time is up there.
 
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QUALIFYING

We will have a two lap qualifying session before the feature race. For the first lap, please start of immediately to avoid a penalty but then drive slowly to build a gap of a least 5 seconds to the car in front of you. The second time time across the start/finish line will be your one and only qualifying lap. Collisions will be off during qualifying. If for some reason you have an accident or fall off the track, PLEASE continueyour lap and do notgo back to the lobby. The following Sprint Race will be run in reverse finishing order from the feature race! Qualifying could be run in either wet or dry conditions and will be chosen at Random before the event starts.


JEFF i seek Qualifying rure clarifikation,

Because in the qualifying colisions are off, are we alowed to pas cars and go flat out and if necesery, if there is not a 5 sec gap in the last sectore of the race track then we slow down how much is needed..

???
 
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How does those leader boards work? If I drive offline time-trial, will it upload my time? Because there is one of my time and I have only driven offline but now I improved my time and the old time is still there. Or is there a delay in uploading times or do I have to do it manually?


Edit: Ok, so there is a delay, because now my time is up there.

Hey Lassi great lap time:tup: there is some delay ,yes,and make sure you're connected to PSN even when you're playing offline TT or your PB won't upload into the leaderboards-mine only go below the 1,47,xx at Montreal never did:nervous:
 
Hey Lassi great lap time:tup: there is some delay ,yes,and make sure you're connected to PSN even when you're playing offline TT or your PB won't upload into the leaderboards-mine only go below the 1,47,xx at Montreal never did:nervous:

Thanks Miguel! It could've been a bit quicker, but I was just way too nervous after seeing how much I was ahead of my pb after half a lap :nervous: But I can't drive constantly yet, still need a lot of practice.

Good to know that I need to be signed into PSN. Thanks for the info, now I can avoid your unlucky incident with Montreal :indiff:
 
Don't get me wrong I've come to like the track in the last few days, but I have yet to fully comprehend what it takes to be really quick on it. :nervous:

I think I've pretty much reached my personal plateau. I tried for about an hour last night to improve upon my 1:40.79. It would be nice to (1) have a faster time than Alan, even if he's disappeared and (2) be less than a 1/2 second off of Henrik who clearly seems to be the fastest wheel user at the moment. I went a few different ways with the setup changes but I wasn't able to find anything that was clearly and obviously quicker. Clearly, the key to starting a very fast lap is how you handle the fast, down-hill, triple apex right hander. And I think ultimate speed is less important than how and when you brake and how you approach the final (tight) right hand apex. If I hit it 'just right' I can carry as much as 200-kmh before braking. But over-all, those extra few kms mean very little if you brake off-line and start to slide. Or worse still...leave the track. :scared::crazy: Of course, saying this and getting your braking and the final apex of that complex 'just right', are two different things. And when it comes down to it, over a lap, I'm losing almost a full second to mhm and even more to Hailwood. I'd like to think that I've been able to take nearly ideal lines through every corner on this track, at some point and I know what they are, although I have not necessarily been able to string them all together on a single lap. But perhaps I'm missing something else. Last night I was in the same boat as Manny and Vompatti--pushing, pushing, pushing to get it just right and going just over that limit and losing it. :ouch: And in the end, crossing the line and realizing what I thought was a GREAT lap was somehow still in the low 1:41s and several tenths off my PB. :confused:



How does those leader boards work? If I drive offline time-trial, will it upload my time? Because there is one of my time and I have only driven offline but now I improved my time and the old time is still there. Or is there a delay in uploading times or do I have to do it manually?

Keep in mind, you have to run (in any mode) connected to the PSN for your times to upload. If you set a time while NOT connected to the PSN that time will NOT upload to the leaderboard. Ever. But setting a fastest time in any mode, online/offline, arcade mode, challenge mode, time trial, quick race, etc, will post your time...so long as you don't have a 'red' lap. Redlaps count on your own PS3 as fast laps but they don't upload to the leaderboard as official times. In other words, when I run Time Trial with this car, it shows my Personal Best at Mont Tremblant as a 1:40.73, even though my leaderboard time is slightly slower because my Personal Best time was set with a red lap (having gone off track slightly at the final chicane). I think it's actually a great system. It still allows you some freedom to have some great side by side battles without getting a penalty every time a wheel leaves the black surface but it prevents blatant corner cutting and gaining an advantage for people trying to stack the leaderboards.

After a 'record' lap is set, it generally takes ~ 30 minutes to upload to the leaderboard.


JEFF i seek Qualifying rure clarifikation,
Because in the qualifying colisions are off, are we alowed to pas cars and go flat out and if necesery, if there is not a 5 sec gap in the last sectore of the race track then we slow down how much is needed..

???

Yes, new_soul, you CAN pass somebody during the 2nd lap of qualifying. The reason I set the 5 second gap is because, unless somebody makes a mistake, it should be enough time that cars don't overlap (except maybe at Spa or Riviera--particuarly long tracks). And I find racing with collisions off and having cars pass through one another is very distracting. And even though Eutechnyx claims otherwise, some really odd behavior can result from driving 'through' another car. But by all means, if on your qualifying lap, if somebody makes a mistake or is just too slow, simply go through them. On the 'formation' lap, people should maintain grid position. On your second lap, fair game.
 
"Mystical-potatoehead-groove-thing". Nice explanation! You've gotta be a Joe Satriani fan like myself!

:lol: I was wondering if anyone would pick up on that!. Yeah, Satriani is one of my favorites.

Its going to be a close race. If you can do a low 1.41 consistently you have a very good chance of winning. Qualifying is going to be very important due to the lack of passing places.

Agreed. Although I'm definately trying to get into the 1:40's, the critical thing is to going to be avoiding the major mistakes. As we've all noted, going wide on the right-hander complex at the beginning of the lap leaves you sliding across the grass for what seems like hours. Race over at that point. :crazy:

Thanks Miguel! It could've been a bit quicker, but I was just way too nervous after seeing how much I was ahead of my pb after half a lap :nervous: But I can't drive constantly yet, still need a lot of practice.

That happens to me all the time. I'll look down and notice I'm ahead of my best pace, then I'll get too ambitious and screw up the whole lap. :yuck:

You should be proud of your pace vompatti you're only a quarter second off the record! Well done.

I think I've pretty much reached my personal plateau. I tried for about an hour last night to improve upon my 1:40.79.

Clearly, the key to starting a very fast lap is how you handle the fast, down-hill, triple apex right hander.

I learned something last night that maybe everyone else aready knows, but I had a habit of downshifting to help my car slow down and I found that it really wasted a lot of time. Of course, sometimes if you brake too late on a corner doing this will save you from going wide, but generally it seems like a bad idea. Now I don't downshift until I can immediately get on the accerator. The only reason my best time dropped down into the low 1:41's was because I realized this a couple of nights ago.

I still have no idea how to possibly get into the 1:40's or 1:39's. I think it will require some Zen-like state of mind... possibly alcohol induced. 💡
 
You should be proud of your pace vompatti you're only a quarter second off the record! Well done.

And he only owns the game for a couple of days...:scared::scared::scared:


I still have no idea how to possibly get into the 1:40's or 1:39's. I think it will require some Zen-like state of mind... possibly alcohol induced. 💡


Well not for my own experience:) not even with all my senses sharpenned as a knife could I pull those amazingly fast(under 1,41) laps in this track...I think that extra 1(or now 2):crazy: seconds can only be found for extremely skilled drivers drive they on a wheel or in a DS3:tup:
 
You should be proud of your pace vompatti you're only a quarter second off the record! Well done.

:eek: Vompatti's into the 1:39s??? He's only had the game a week. :ill: You know, on second thought, the lobby's looking kind of full for the next round, Vompatti! ;) :lol: Kidding aside, that's massively impressive! 👍


I learned something last night that maybe everyone else aready knows, but I had a habit of downshifting to help my car slow down and I found that it really wasted a lot of time. Of course, sometimes if you brake too late on a corner doing this will save you from going wide, but generally it seems like a bad idea. Now I don't downshift until I can immediately get on the accerator.

There are indeed times where downshifting will increase your braking distance. That's also one reason (among others) I sacrifice the stability of driving with both hands on the wheel in order to use the H-Pattern shifter. Because you can skip over gears as well. But the game, just like real life, is very organic in that sense and you have to adapt to situations. Sometimes it IS beneficial to drop a gear to help slow down.
 
:eek: Vompatti's into the 1:39s??? He's only had the game a week. :ill: You know, on second thought, the lobby's looking kind of full for the next round, Vompatti! ;) :lol: Kidding aside, that's massively impressive! 👍

No no no, still on the 1'40s. 1'40.04 to be exact if I remember correctly. Or was it .06 not sure.

Haha, don't worry jjaisli. It was at least at this point only a lucky lap. Long races are always different from hotlapping and I have a lot of work to do so that I can stay on the track in the first right hand triplex!


And thanks everyone 👍
 
I still have no idea how to possibly get into the 1:40's or 1:39's. I think it will require some Zen-like state of mind... possibly alcohol induced.

I am going for the 1'38's wach this space!!!

Recentley did 22 laps of time trail, to set up the car as it suits ( the only setings that i change are toe, the base set up stays the same unles sombody is faster :D

1'39.36

I did turn one flat until its going downhill stayed in 4th and taped the brakes to balance the carto set it up for the braking point, shifted to 3rd while braking to 2nd at apex lost a 0.05 at the direction change, then braked at 50m at the fast S turn ok there then the corner before the backstraight, i dont know how to drive that thing it seams duble apex and blind with wheelspin at the exit, lost at least a 0.1 there, then the corner complex lost 0.2 at the entrance missed apex and was to fast, exit under the bridge, was not perfect, thats another i dont understand, lost 0.1 there and somthing accelerating to the uphill haipin..

its a very technical track, i get overstear all the time in the fast S turns, but i think thats thefastest way, a car that turns well especially in turn 1 but the S turn required not so agresive style, I think its a compromise, bouth types of set ups can be good, im still not happy with my...
 
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...i get overstear all the time in the fast S turns, but i think thats thefastest way, a car that turns well especially in turn 1 but the S turn required not so agresive style, I think its a compromise, bouth types of set ups can be good, im still not happy with my...

Have you tried it in the wet yet? :sly:
 
Have you tried it in the wet yet? :sly:

Yes, that's a mistake that I made the first weekend at Homestead that I won't make again. My setup was perfect for a dry track, but was totally treacherous in the rain with the back-end continually trying to swap places with the front if I gave it too much gas. As happy as I was with the races that weekend I can't help but think that I lost one place due to that poor planning on my part. :indiff:

new_soul:
I am going for the 1'38's wach this space!!!

Well of course you are! So am I! The tragedy is that only one of us has a reasonable chance of reaching that mark! :lol:
 
Yes, that's a mistake that I made the first weekend at Homestead that I won't make again. My setup was perfect for a dry track, but was totally treacherous in the rain with the back-end continually trying to swap places with the front if I gave it too much gas.

Same here...:nervous::dunce: learned to not repeat it-and I really think that my tune for Montreal was more wet friendly but I never got the chance to prove it:indiff:

Well of course you are! So am I! The tragedy is that only one of us has a reasonable chance of reaching that mark! :lol:


Hmmmm look out for Lassi(vompatti) I saw this movie before in SSV8NC:)

And never forget mhm66 and Sarrinen:bowdown:
 
Yes, new_soul, you CAN pass somebody during the 2nd lap of qualifying. The reason I set the 5 second gap is because, unless somebody makes a mistake, it should be enough time that cars don't overlap (except maybe at Spa or Riviera--particuarly long tracks). And I find racing with collisions off and having cars pass through one another is very distracting. And even though Eutechnyx claims otherwise, some really odd behavior can result from driving 'through' another car. But by all means, if on your qualifying lap, if somebody makes a mistake or is just too slow, simply go through them.

On the 'formation' lap, people should maintain grid position. On your second lap, fair game.

Sorry my question was not so acurate, i did mean lap 1.... ...lap2 i understand ( even the horse understands it :dunce: ) :)

So keep position in lap 1...
 
Yes, that's a mistake that I made the first weekend at Homestead that I won't make again. My setup was perfect for a dry track, but was totally treacherous in the rain...

Yes, that's exactly what I meant. I made the same mistake last year during one of the first 'classic series' races. I think it was at Hockenheim. I was fighting for a podium spot the race before. And then in the wet...I was lapped. :dunce:


Hmmmm look out for Lassi(vompatti) I saw this movie before in SSV8NC:)

And never forget mhm66 and Sarrinen:bowdown:

Trust me, I'm already nervous. Alas, Henrik won't be joining us at Mont Tremblant as I believe he has other plans. You know how it is with Aliens--they come and visit out of nowhere, terrorize the general public and then leave again for their home world. :lol:


Sorry my question was not so acurate, i did mean lap 1.... ...lap2 i understand ( even the horse understands it :dunce: ) :)

So keep position in lap 1...

Ahh! :sly: Sorry. Yes, everybody should keep station during lap one or it will be chaos. But I'll make another announcement before the race. The person in front should set off at a quick pace and set precedence for the rest of the field. It makes no sense to have the field crawling along at 50 kmh for most of the lap as it's unfair to the people at the back.
 
Trust me, I'm already nervous. Alas, Henrik won't be joining us at Mont Tremblant as I believe he has other plans. You know how it is with Aliens--they come and visit out of nowhere, terrorize the general public and then leave again for their home world. :lol:

:lol::lol::lol:
Where are the Men in Black when you need them... :lol:


Ahh! :sly: Sorry. Yes, everybody should keep station during lap one or it will be chaos. But I'll make another announcement before the race. The person in front should set off at a quick pace and set precedence for the rest of the field. It makes no sense to have the field crawling along at 50 kmh for most of the lap as it's unfair to the people at the back

Um... yes Jeff, although I'm sure you've forgotten the incident :ouch::embarrassed: I actually ran through your car on the 1st lap last week when things didn't get rolling as quickly as I expected them to.

arvore: Hmmmm look out for Lassi(vompatti) I saw this movie before in SSV8NC:)

And never forget mhm66 and Sarrinen:bowdown:

:lol::lol:
 
Nice to know you're all getting lots of time to practice. :grumpy:

Mont Tremblant's a great track, but I've never been very fast on it. That first corner sequence has to be the most nail-biting corner in SCC - fast, tight, bumpy, off-camber, decreasing radius, nasty curbs - there are a whole lot of things that can go wrong. I would say that in a race you would be well-advised to err on the side of caution, since going off here once, is going to lose you a whole mess of time ...
 
It's a holiday in here and I'm not at home for the entire weekend, so not that much practice for me either. And then there is this Finnish league we are running in SSV8NC. The race is on thursday, so on wednesday I have to forget everything I've learned in SCC and adjust to SSV8NC. Then after the race on thursday I have to forget everything I've learned in SSV8NC and learn SCC again before saturday :ill:

It would be actually nice to know what kind of times you guys drive in both conditions with some setup. Personally I haven't tried Mont Tremblant at wet with that setup at all (which is a setup that I picked from this topic) and I don't think I have the skill or time to understand the setup system and test different kind of setups so that they would suit nicely to both conditions. So times with the same setup in dry and wet would be much appreciated, so that I would know a bit where to aim for. And if you want to be really friendly, you can even tell the setup :sly:
 
:lol::lol::lol:
Um... yes Jeff, although I'm sure you've forgotten the incident :ouch::embarrassed: I actually ran through your car on the 1st lap last week when things didn't get rolling as quickly as I expected them to.

No, I remember. :dopey: And don't feel bad. Kemp did the same. It's a little tricky without knowing how quickly the people in front will take off. No worries.


I would say that in a race you would be well-advised to err on the side of caution, since going off here once, is going to lose you a whole mess of time ...

Nice try Biggles. :sly: But you're just going to have to push and keep up, Grandma. ;)



It's a holiday in here and I'm not at home for the entire weekend, so not that much practice for me either. And then there is this Finnish league we are running in SSV8NC. The race is on thursday, so on wednesday I have to forget everything I've learned in SCC and adjust to SSV8NC. Then after the race on thursday I have to forget everything I've learned in SSV8NC and learn SCC again before saturday :ill:

It would be actually nice to know what kind of times you guys drive in both conditions with some setup. Personally I haven't tried Mont Tremblant at wet with that setup at all (which is a setup that I picked from this topic) and I don't think I have the skill or time to understand the setup system and test different kind of setups so that they would suit nicely to both conditions. So times with the same setup in dry and wet would be much appreciated, so that I would know a bit where to aim for. And if you want to be really friendly, you can even tell the setup :sly:

So let me see if I understand this. :mischievous: You show up here and with only a few days of practice, manage to put in the 3rd or 4th fastest time on the leaderboards, right up there with the best of the best, leaving 6 month veterans of this game looking extremely ordinary and bashful. :embarrassed::embarrassed: And to top it off, you're now asking for advise for your wet setup? I could be wrong but I hardly think you'll need the help. :lol: At any rate, one unfortunate limitation of this game is that there's no way to adjust your setup without leaving the lobby. So you'll have to use one setup for both wet and dry. And the key is choosing a setup that you're comfortable with in both conditions. If you're satisfied with your dry setup, just test it in the wet. If it doesn't work for you, you'll maybe need to scale it back. The fact that the leaderboard doesn't distinguish between wet or dry laps makes knowing how competitive you are in the wet a bit of guesswork. Honestly, I have yet to do any wet running myself at this track.

It's really a shame you didn't have this game earlier and couldn't take part in Mario's Pentathlon. Although it suffered a lot of problems, the event was really a lot of fun, if somewhat daunting, trying to switch immediately from one game to the other and quickly adapting to the different physics.
 
Nice try Biggles. :sly: But you're just going to have to push and keep up, Grandma. ;)

:lol::lol::lol:

So let me see if I understand this. :mischievous: You show up here and with only a few days of practice, manage to put in the 3rd or 4th fastest time on the leaderboards, right up there with the best of the best, leaving 6 month veterans of this game looking extremely ordinary and bashful. :embarrassed::embarrassed: And to top it off, you're now asking for advise for your wet setup? I could be wrong but I hardly think you'll need the help. :lol: At any rate, one unfortunate limitation of this game is that there's no way to adjust your setup without leaving the lobby. So you'll have to use one setup for both wet and dry. And the key is choosing a setup that you're comfortable with in both conditions. If you're satisfied with your dry setup, just test it in the wet. If it doesn't work for you, you'll maybe need to scale it back. The fact that the leaderboard doesn't distinguish between wet or dry laps makes knowing how competitive you are in the wet a bit of guesswork. Honestly, I have yet to do any wet running myself at this track.

:lol:

I didn't try it in the wet either,why bother if I didn't mastered on the dry tarmac yet:indiff:
And I agree with Jeff,Vompatti, you hardly need help with the setups with that lap times:)
But for the wet the less extreme camber and toe settings seem to pay off briging more stability and less oversteering...💡
 
Hi guys
Did numurous races yesterday with new_soul,manny,kux and some other guys in the 348.
After this I have to say consistensy will be your ticket to the podium.It's one thing to set a fast time,but to do it over and over again at a 20 lap race is what will be the hardest.

We only did one wet race and the pace was around 1:45 to 1:47
 
Hi guys
Did numurous races yesterday with new_soul,manny,kux and some other guys in the 348.
After this I have to say consistensy will be your ticket to the podium.It's one thing to set a fast time,but to do it over and over again at a 20 lap race is what will be the hardest.

We only did one wet race and the pace was around 1:45 to 1:47

Yes, thanks for bringing my attention to the fact that you guys were racing. :)👍

I'll second what Henrik mentioned above about the importance of consistancy at MT and add a word of caution.

There are a couple of sections on MT that you really shouldn't try to force a pass on because the downside potential if you screw it up is huge. For one of the races at MT a guy I didn't know joined the lobby (Spanish guy I think), and on the first lap of the race he tried to pass me on the decreasing-radius right hander complex at the beginning of the lap. As you've probably guessed, he lost it and hit me and someone else and we all ended up taking the slow slide to the wall. :banghead: In that first section you've really got to be patient.

As expected Henrik and new_soul were dominant at Mount Tremblant, although I was pleased that for a while I was able to keep pace and actually exchange passes with both of them. It showed that at least the setup I'm using is competitive, but eventually I made enough mistakes that they pulled away and I often ended up battling with KUX for the third spot.

In any case they were all very enjoyable races and thank you again for including me. 👍:)


EDIT: I raced Henrik and new_soul again a couple times at Mt. Tremblanc this morning.... :ill: I think they both must've been sleepy or possibly intoxicated for last night's races, because this morning I was thoroughly spanked. Both have very similar fast-lap times, but Henrik is almost like an automoton out there with no mistakes that I was able to detect. Being slower by two seconds/lap makes them both disappear disturbingly fast into the distance. You guys are both very talented. 👍
 
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Good to se you racing Manny 👍


This morning we did a cople of 7 lap runs to try to change the set up, i had no luck, despite improving the balance of the car and leaving enough overstear for the 1st turn, i was going slower and slower, but more consistant...

In the afternoon i changed the reid height and made the car soft to drive.. ..within 5laps i was abel to equal my PB time with a room for improvement, and was abel to do consistent lap times...
Now i only play with the rear camber to fine tune the overstear effect in turn 1

Im happy with my set up :):sly:👍
 
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Good to se you racing Manny 👍


This morning we did a cople of 7 lap runs to try to change the set up, i had no luck, despite improving the balance of the car and leaving enough overstear for the 1st turn, i was going slower and slower, but more consistant...

In the afternoon i changed the reid height and made the car soft to drive.. ..within 5laps i was abel to equal my PB time with a room for improvement, and was abel to do consistent lap times...
Now i only play with the rear camber to fine tune the overstear effect in turn 1

Im happy with my set up :):sly:👍

Err... good news... uh... so you'll be faster and more consistant... how nice for you... just joking :lol:

I think I came to the same conclusion you did with regard to the setup after our race this morning. Having a twitchy setup may pay off on tracks like Redwood Park where there is very little run-off and lots of walls, but lose control at MT and it's game over.

But I have to admit that I like Jeff the other night, seem to have reached my own personal wall with regard to lap times. I can't seem to break into the 1:40's no matter what I do. I think part of my problem is the itch to just adjust this setting and tweak that setting and pretty soon I have no idea what the car is going to do.
I think it's time to settle on the tuning and just get used to it...
 
I dont belive in ''personal wall'' for a better result you need to do something differently...

Yes, this is probably true. Of course being able to figure out what to do is the tough part. You get to a point where you're not getting faster and in fact, you're struggling to even match your PB. When it happens, the best thing is to take a break.

Yesterday afternoon, I was able to narrow down a better approach to 2 different corners and shave a few tenths--if I get it just right. And in doing so I was abel to improve my leaderboard spot (now 5th ahead of Alan) to a 1:40.59. And my PB (a red lap) is now a 1:40.43. So I know there may be a 'bit' more if I really nail it. But for the life of me, I just can't figure out how you and Henrik are into the low 1:39s. :crazy: It's really daunting to be more than a full second off. Very impressive.
 
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A little bit of track talk to compare..

So turn 1 and 2 are full, a litle bit of lifting may be required somtimes,

now it is important to hit the apex on turn 3 to not go wide in the braking area on to the less gripier tarmack,

turn 4 is werry trickery, you need to go fast in but you have to hit the apex just right for the direction change to turn 5 around 110 km/h its werry difficult to judge the speed there, as there is no time to lock at the speedometer.. I think thats the hardest part to get a good lap time.

turn 7 155-160km/h at the apex

Turn 8 i brake at around 100m - 80m (go figure) [ if in 3rd gear at 60m] that leeds to the car go a litle wide, if not to wide, from that point the car must have a werry stabel set up that allows good acceleration out of the turn and on to the back straight, any sideways, power skid movements can cost up to 0.3 at the end of the straight. fast in slow down and fast out.

turn 10, i brake there at 105 - 110m and turn in just at ,before 50m to hit the apex, the curb with 2 wheels almoust over the curb or on the grass, 150- 160 km/h there,

then the next turn11, with slight tap on the brakes hit the curb with 2 wheels almoust over the curb or on the grass, i use a litle bit of e-brake to make the directoion change there, it is important to keep the car balanced to not lose speed.

turn 12
its trickery, i brake at 50m ore slightly after go a litle straight and then turn in, can lose time esasy there.

braking for turn 14 at 100- 95m apex spees around 70 km/h fast and easy on the power.
 
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I dont belive in ''personal wall'' for a better result you need to do something differently...

Yes, I basically agree with that statement. 👍


EDIT: new_soul, thanks for the very good advice. 👍 Following your instruction I was able to chop off almost a full second from my best time and break well into the 1:40's. I'm not sure if it'll show up on the leaderboards, because I forgot to log into PSN until I had already started the time trial. (Not sure how that works) But it doesn't matter as I'm sure I'll be able to do it again. :)
 
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