Sciaru BRZFRS (BreezeFrees)

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At the 2013 Houston Auto Show last weekend, I picked up a booklet regarding the Scion FR-S. Its lineage in the pictures have the FR-S linked to the Toyota Sports 800, the Toyota 2000GT (one of my all-time favorite cars), and the Toyota AE86. I'm just pleased to see more affordable RWD sports cars available. It's quite fascinating reading about the Scion FR-S. It was also cool just seeing one of these in the flesh.
 
Jav
Yes sir! GT4 car, is it me or does it look a lot wider than the regular car?

Nice!!! Now what series will this guy be running in?

Kamuifanboy
I wouldn't say a lot but, a wider body sure makes a difference. Probably runs slightly wider wheels as well considering the wheels it comes with stock are as narrow as a pencil.

Looking at the car again, I have to say it may need a wider and better body for racing. The added downforce and thicker tires will do the car more justice in a race, especially against its rivals.
 
-> Here's my rant about the SubieYota Conv/Cabrio, isn't that there is a saying that "a car that is built an open-top in the first place is far better than a coupe converted into an open-top?" I think I got that quote from Top Gear UK when they tested the Audi TT, 350Z, & Crossfire Roadsters...since these coupe-based roadster doesn't bode well when the top is chopped off most of the time.

And I don't think this SubieYota can pull it through either, light as it is...weight & body flex will be a potential issue.

Yeah, it probably will have a bit of scuttle/cowl shake, but having a low COG (due to boxer engine), maybe that will help it a bit. Or maybe they'll add extra strength and reinforcement to the trans tunnel, which i imagine would also help. I'd definitely ditch the rear seats though.. (personally can't stand 4-seater convertibles, well unless they're old school American cars, Caddys, Lincolns etc.)
 
It would seem fairly likely that the FR-S would replace the tC in the long-standing Toyota Celebrity Grand Prix that they hold in Long Beach every year. You know, the one that used to have the Celicas, and real celebrities racing.

Looks like that you were right....
The Scion FR-S will be the official vehicle of the 2013 Toyota Pro/Celebrity Race held at this year’s Long Beach Grand Prix. The sports car replaces the Scion tC coupe, which has been used in the annual race since 2005, to become the first rear-drive celebrity race car in 27 years. The modified Scion FR-S racer debuts at the 2013 Chicago Auto Show.

The race cars will be identically prepared, tuned to 210 hp with help from 100-octane racing fuel and TRD upgrades like a performance intake and stainless steel exhaust system. Other modifications include coilover shocks, a big brake kit with Hawk Performance brake pads, Centerforce single-disc racing clutch, and 18-inch TRD alloy wheels wheels wrapped in 225/40R18-size Bridgestone Potenza RE11 summer tires.
MotorTrend

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For those of you who are worried about this car's structural intergrity as a convertible, Motor Trend has an answer. They tested a car Toyota calls a "development car" with Michelin Pilot Super Sport tyres, better exhaust yielding a nicer sound, new differential, some cosmetic bits, and this:

Paul Horrell-Motor Trend
Another trick part is a set of patented "door stabilizers." They introduce a sliding plate between the door and its aperture in the region of the latch, rigidly locking the door into the structure and making the body shell usefully more rigid. We ask Tada if they might be useful if Toyota were to decide to build an FR-S convertible. He smiled and said yes, they'd definitely be an enabler, but he wouldn't be drawn into whether a convertible will indeed happen.

Read more: Scion FR-S Sampler Platter
 
For those of you who are worried about this car's structural intergrity as a convertible, Motor Trend has an answer. They tested a car Toyota calls a "development car" with Michelin Pilot Super Sport tyres, better exhaust yielding a nicer sound, new differential, some cosmetic bits, and this:

That's an interesting concept, and one I haven't really thought about before. I would like to see the patent application to see how they are applying this technology.

However, I don't see how it could just be a plate at the door latch area. There has to be something at the front of the door also to make the entire assembly stiffer. I highly doubt one or two door hinges themselves are very stiff at all.
 
That part is already available for sale, we have them at my shop and I've seen them first hand. You can see them on our site here.

Yup. Was on Speedhunters the other day too, on the retro TRD 86:

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Does make me wonder if it puts any undue pressure on the hinges, though? As in, ten years down the line the door will sag or something as it's been squeezed against the hinge for years?
 
The FR-S as the new Toyota Pro Celebrity race cars? That's got to be fun! Rear-wheel drive and boxer/horizontally-opposed engines? Long Beach is going to hear some sweet engine music and see some awesome-looking cars. These cars could be plenty fun to see in action for when that race comes around.
 
Yup. Was on Speedhunters the other day too, on the retro TRD 86:

Does make me wonder if it puts any undue pressure on the hinges, though? As in, ten years down the line the door will sag or something as it's been squeezed against the hinge for years?

Oh, I see what the are doing. Using compression, clever. I had thought that they were somehow pulling on the doors instead.

The door shouldn't sag when after years being squeezed. It's not experiencing stress, shear or torsion, and I bet that any compressive force applied is well within the yield stress of the hinges.
 
Cabrio doesn't hold any appeal for me. If I wanted an open-top sports car, I'd buy an MX-5. If I wanted a coupe, that's what the 86 is for...

Plus, people can see the naff interior with the roof down :D
 
If it's a convertible people will see you driving it :S

I like this car but I couldn't drive one, already the ones I've seen on the road are driven by all the wrong people. A used Cayman is a far better prospect for me.
 
Having a convertible will open a new spectrum of prospective buyers to the 86, it actually makes a lot of sense to do it. I wonder if the factory has the capacity to keep up with demand and still do the cabrio, from what I've been reading, there are massive waiting lists to get one of the Toyobarus.
 
I can see Cali girls driving around these.

I don't know why but something about convertibles feminizes cars to me. Even convertible Ferrari's and Lambo's.
 
Wouldn't the Hennessey Venom and the NSX-T be targa tops?

Off topic: I'd totally buy either of those.

I still can't see how the roof will "deploy" :irked:
 
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I like convertibles, they make a car more fun on the road. And if girls like convertibles more, even better! :dopey:
 
Really not keen on how that convertible's looking. Maybe it's one of those things that look better in the flesh... and again, 4 seats. :yuck:
 
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