Super Tuner Car Championship Season 4

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E46Envy
what time Sunday? Afternoon EST would work best for me. I'm not sure I could make a night race on Sunday.

What about 5pm ET? I'M OPEN for suggestions. anytime except for 9pm ET TO 9:30pm ET. I HAVE to drop off my daughter back to her moms at that time.
 
ncrthree
I'd rather do it sooner than later too. Going out of town this Thursday and Friday-it would be fine w/ me any night from tonight till Wednesday. We've had some fun sprints the last couple nights, looks like anything could happen in a long race.

Not sure about the ticket for the Merc JT.

Your missing Fiasco? Oh my!
 
djchon661
Wow bo i'm sorry you feel that way.

The reality of the matter is I would have had the race go on as planned except I didn't have anybody to host the race. I didn't plan for a backup.

As for showing respect, I think you are being out of line. When have I ever failed to show anybody respect.

Just stick to this rule. Find it all in all my OP's.

Regular league members please notify the league president when you know you may not attend a race. League members may also propose to have the race postposed until the next scheduled race day. If a proposal is made all of the league members may approve or disapprove with the majority vote to rule. It's more fun if everyone is around.
 
AllinWitJT
Just stick to this rule. Find it all in all my OP's.

Regular league members please notify the league president when you know you may not attend a race. League members may also propose to have the race postposed until the next scheduled race day. If a proposal is made all of the league members may approve or disapprove with the majority vote to rule. It's more fun if everyone is around.

Agreed. Unfortunately in my case yesterday, the outages were totally unexpected. I should of askEd for volunteers to host yesterdays race
 
Sorry that I couldn't host last night guys but I got tied up with work. I tried to let you guys know as soon as possible.

If the races are going to be run in an open lobby anyone can host the race

I won't be there tomorrow. Sunday aren't good for me
 
djchon661
Wow bo i'm sorry you feel that way.

The reality of the matter is I would have had the race go on as planned except I didn't have anybody to host the race. I didn't plan for a backup.

As for showing respect, I think you are being out of line. When have I ever failed to show anybody respect.

Well it seemed like you had kind of a "too bad for you" attitude when you changed the race from Thurs night to Fri and it was gonna screw Mike out of the race even though he put in a lot of work for the race too. And then keep putting everyone else on hold when you aren't available. Even the person who sets up a league should be treated like anyone else who just happens to not be able to make it, or doesn't show up on time.
 
What about 5pm ET? I'M OPEN for suggestions. anytime except for 9pm ET TO 9:30pm ET. I HAVE to drop off my daughter back to her moms at that time.

That works for me.

Yeah JT, I'm out for Fiasco this week. There's a fan day at VIR Friday so it's a great time to get some cheap track time in. Each 20 minute session is $50. Wish that track was in GT-it's awesome.
 
Well it seemed like you had kind of a "too bad for you" attitude when you changed the race from Thurs night to Fri and it was gonna screw Mike out of the race even though he put in a lot of work for the race too. And then keep putting everyone else on hold when you aren't available. Even the person who sets up a league should be treated like anyone else who just happens to not be able to make it, or doesn't show up on time.


That is not the case at all. I had given everybody, including you, prior notification on more than one occasion that races would be scheduled around my work schedule BEFORE the season started.

I had no disrespect intended for mike or anybody else. The fact is the race was never scheduled for Thursday night to begin with.

I agree that if I can't make a race the race shouldn't just be put on hold but as I have explained above, last night was an exception. I had no back ups in place. Roadrash gave plenty of notice and I planned on hosting the lounge and then I suffered a power and cable/internet outage.

Nobody volunteered to host and I felt wrong about asking anybody to host for me.

I fail to see how I disrespect anybody and am frankly getting upset with this negativity towards me.

I put in a ton of time and effort, working around my work and family, to have a good time and don't feel that you or Bo are being understanding of my view point at all.
 
djchon661
Agreed. Unfortunately in my case yesterday, the outages were totally unexpected. I should of askEd for volunteers to host yesterdays race

Oh I know. It just helps when weird situations come up. We could have just posted a quick vote in the thread and then it's the vote that rules so nobody can get upset with anyone else.
 
The fact that the league was my number one concern during the power outage should help to show everybody how much I care about this league and I apologized more than once. My family and many others around me were without proper heating (on a cold rainy afternoon) and in the dark most of the time.

Forgive me for not handling the situation properly but things are difficult to do on my phone (which I was also trying to use sparingly to conserve its power in case of emergency).
 
Allow me to remind everybody what the idea behind the STC was and why I founded it:

Have you wanted to join one of the many GTP leagues, but are worried that you might not be good enough to compete? Or that your schedule doesn't always permit being online at the right time?


Are you tired of searching the open lobby for a good race?

Is digging through the endless lists of PSN ID's more trouble than it's worth to find a good race?

Do you want something more organized than simply signing on and racing at random for 2 laps?

Well welcome to...
The Super Tuner Car Championship!



Objectives

• Have Flexible Race Schedules. Discuss the date and time of the next event to ensure participation.
• Be Laid Back. If you can't make it, it's okay.
• Be Organized. It's not just randomly showing up to race, we already do that, with varying success.
• Provide a Fun Racing Environment

The above was in the OP of the first STC thread and is still on the homepage of the STC website.

Flexible scheduling was always a focus as was being laid back. Mike's attitude was great when he found out he couldn't make the race and I applaud him for that. Bo and dangit, your attitudes are coming off angry and hostile and I don't understand why.

If i'm sounding defensive its because I feel like I have invested so much time and money and effort and to be accused of lacking respect for you guys is really, REALLY upsetting me.
 
Where was this original post? I don't see it.

Originally Posted by boshuter

"I don't understand why the race was cancelled anyway, everyone was ready and had put in a LOT of time practicing. There was no reason the race couldn't have been ran last night. I know it sucks your internet was down, but cancelling the race because one person couldn't make it just isn't right. We have one or two every week that have to miss the race for various reasons, we don't cancel every time that happens. If you want respect, you have to show a little respect."
 
AllinWitJT
Where was this original post? I don't see it.

Originally Posted by boshuter

"I don't understand why the race was cancelled anyway, everyone was ready and had put in a LOT of time practicing. There was no reason the race couldn't have been ran last night. I know it sucks your internet was down, but cancelling the race because one person couldn't make it just isn't right. We have one or two every week that have to miss the race for various reasons, we don't cancel every time that happens. If you want respect, you have to show a little respect."

Exactly what I wondered. Thought maybe a pm was aired for all to see.
 
djchon661
If i'm sounding defensive its because I feel like I have invested so much time and money and effort and to be accused of lacking respect for you guys is really, REALLY upsetting me.
I didn't accuse the lack of respect. All I did was point out what I personally found to be an example. Because I find this flexibility to only go one way.
 
I didn't accuse the lack of respect. All I did was point out what I personally found to be an example. Because I find this flexibility to only go one way.

And you chose to not race in the series which is fine.
 
I got a bunch to say about this, but don't feel like typing it out on my phone. I'll do so later. Your all a bunch of cry baby's over a f'n game. This league was meant to be a laid back league, you guys are turning it into something it was never meant to be. Some of you guys race in more "official" leagues and then bring your negative attitudes here. We've branched out to include RR and JT in their leagues and they seem to fill the role of more structured event. DJ puts in the work and try's to accommodate everyone, then here comes the comments I don't like the track, car, tires, etc., whatever. I can't race the integra (JT had 2 other cars that were matching the times) boo-f'n-hoo. I'd quit the whole f'n thing, I suck balls and come in last place every race, but if I quit somebody else will come in last, park their car, cry about lag, etc, so I'll keep my position thank you. Most of you guys have good skills and are really fast, probably too fast for this league, especially with the drama that gets brought up.
 
Brett is correct. This isn't the place to argue. I apologize and if anybody wants they can always PM me. Lets leave the thread to fun and constructive posts.

Oh Brett is wrong about one thing. You don't come in last all the time, I came in last last week!
 
If my passion for this game comes across as crying, then so be it. I make no apologies. These are the only 3 leagues I have ever raced with, so I have no official league to take any reference from. So when I see something that I feel is taking away from the experience, or needs to be brought to light then I am damn well going to do so even if one might take it the wrong way. I never set out to offend anyone, but I sure as **** don't avoid it either.
 
Nope it was edited by Bo. I would not make a private conversation public.

I edited it because I didn't want it to turn into a big deal, I'm sorry you chose to repost it.

I apologize for expressing my opinion, but I don't apologize for having that opinion. It's your series, if you feel it's right to cancel a race because you have to miss it, but not cancel a race when anyone else has to miss, then that is up to you.
 
If my passion for this game comes across as crying, then so be it. I make no apologies. These are the only 3 leagues I have ever raced with, so I have no official league to take any reference from. So when I see something that I feel is taking away from the experience, or needs to be brought to light then I am damn well going to do so even if one might take it the wrong way. I never set out to offend anyone, but I sure as **** don't avoid it either.

Exactly, you and I don't always agree, but I respect your right to voice your opinion.

I've been in a lot of series and I've never seen one cancel a race because one person can't make it, even if it is the series starter.
 
I edited it because I didn't want it to turn into a big deal, I'm sorry you chose to repost it.

I apologize for expressing my opinion, but I don't apologize for having that opinion. It's your series, if you feel it's right to cancel a race because you have to miss it, but not cancel a race when anyone else has to miss, then that is up to you.

You're missing the point.

I didn't cancel because I couldn't make it. I cancelled the race because I couldn't host it and I had no back ups in place.

Bo, Dangit, you guys are welcome to your opinions. But you know what they say about that. The way you choose to voice your opinion matters.

I feel that you took things to far by saying I should show respect when all I have ever tried to do was insure the fun and well being of the league is wrong. I believe you think so as well and thats why you removed it.

As for you dangit, you have the right to not give a damn but the way you voice your opinion is harsh and the fact that you don't care about any end result regarding feelings shows a very selfish and immature attitude. You have disrupted my threads before with this behavior and it isn't right.

I was inclined to respond to you both in private but as you continue to post on this thread, so will I.

At this point you two are causing me more trouble and grief than any of the other drivers that we booted out of the league.

If you cannot understand that my decision, in my league, to hold the race was not due to selfishness but due to extenuating circumstances that I hadn't prepared for (which I take the blame and have apologized repeatedly) than I have no more to say to you two regarding it.

Race somewhere else where you both will be happy and so will I.
 
Wow your actually going to kick them for voicing their opinions??? Damn. What the hell??
 
Wow your actually going to kick them for voicing their opinions??? Damn. What the hell??

If they are not happy racing in this league then they are free to go race where they will be happy. I do not need to deal with this much drama when all I want to do is have fun.

Further more, their refusal to try to understand why I cancelled the event is disappointing to say the least. Accusing me of not respecting people is not only harsh and unfair, it is wrong.

And technically Dangit had already quit the series over reasons I do not know. Whether it was because I didn't accommodate the league to him enough I do not know. I can only speculate. I can also speculate that the two races you will miss are races that I didn't try harder to accommodate for you.

That is just my (probably wrong) speculation but I didn't question your decisions and wished you guys the best.

If they would like to keep racing in this league I would recommend they air out their opinions in a more constructive manner.
 
Oh well. I had already backed out of the season anyway. I guess opinions are only ok if you are expressing them against anyone other than the host. Not one time did I ever get asked to tame down when I was going off on any one of the guys that ended up getting booted out. Always raced as clean as possible as well. Thicker skin is needed for some from what I can tell.

I'll just wait patiently for Rash or JT's series.
 
I am very resentful of the fact that Bo and Dangit are insinuating or accusing me of placing my needs above the league. I've missed STC races before. In no way was I trying to show favoritism to myself. If somebody had stepped up and said, "Hey I can host the race and take care of the work/results" i would have been greatly appreciative of that and took them up on the offer.
 
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