Tesla Model 3 General Discussion

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I would be surprised if the giant tablet is present on the production model, that poses too many safety hazards. All Tesla had to do was put the Model S interior in the shrink ray and use cheaper materials for the Model 3...
 
[Nor]MclarenF1
I hope they'll embed the display into the dashboard. The floating mount style on the reveal cars looked too intrusive and in your face. Then there's the risk of it breaking off and being thrown around the cabin in a collision.
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I think the floating screen can work well, if applied well:

i3-Interior-Passenger-Inside.jpg


In other words, it can look like it's actually floating, rather than giving off the effect that someone has just screwed it into place.

The trouble with a fully integrated screen is that you have to build up a dedicated dashboard around it, and really that's just a bit of a waste of both space and resources.
 
@homeforsummer I agree. I just don't know if it can be done effectively in the Model 3 without drastic changes to the dashboard design. I think the changes needed for an embedded display would be less than to make the floating screen one work. Unless you do a drastic downsize of the screen perhaps.

That being said - when you look at the Tesla homepage, you don't see any renders of the Model 3s interior. This to my mind further confirms the suspicion that what we where shown was pretty much a mock up interior.
 
Yup, I think the mock-up is the case. And it probably will have an embedded screen, as other production Teslas do. But it'd be nice if they found an inventive way of making the floating screen work, rather than going for the same dull dashboard as other Teslas.
 
Talked a lot about the car with my co-worker today and we definitely agreed that we like it, a lot, but we're still not 100% sold on the lack of some kind of grille. Not necessarily out of function, but, as something to break up the front, style wise. Maybe this is the new future and we just haven't seen it yet, but, it just doesn't feel quite right. The interior seems to be even more divisive, and I think overall, it isn't that bad. There are a lot of people who crave a minimal style like that, and I don't think it'd be that great of a shock to average folks if that tablet is highly functional.

What does bother me about the Model 3, though, is the process to get one. There are still far too many variables at play to assume that this thing is A) Going to come out on time (see Model X launch), and B) have the production capacity ready to meet potential demand. Yes, it seems like at $35k with a 200 mile range, they've hit the sweet spot, but if you're going to be on a list that's probably not going to get you the car for another 3-4 years... Well. I'm not sure what that'll do.

I'm really looking forward to the day that both Tesla and GM go head-to-head with the Model 3 and Bolt. Two completely different answers to the same question. If it were my $35k, the answer is pretty obvious in the Model 3. But if GM has a 2 year lead for most buyers going forward, that's a huge advantage for them.


EDIT: Had a thought

Those $7500 federal tax incentives are going to start disappearing soon for both GM and Tesla. The Bolt is planned to start at $37,500 before incentives, while the Model 3 is targeted at $35,000 before incentives. Assuming the GM tax credits are completely eaten away by the time the Model 3 shows up in 2018 - what's GM to do? For that matter, how long do we really think Tesla's credits will last once production is able to ramp up on the Model 3?
 
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homeforsummer
Yup, I think the mock-up is the case. And it probably will have an embedded screen, as other production Teslas do. But it'd be nice if they found an inventive way of making the floating screen work, rather than going for the same dull dashboard as other Teslas.
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Totally. If they did something similar to the i3 interior you posted, only on steroids. Make a big recess in the dashboard and make the screen look like it's floating within that space.
 
YSSMAN
Talked a lot about the car with my co-worker today and we definitely agreed that we like it, a lot, but we're still not 100% sold on the lack of some kind of grille. Not necessarily out of function, but, as something to break up the front, style wise. Maybe this is the new future and we just haven't seen it yet, but, it just doesn't feel quite right.
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Someone photoshop a Model S grille onto this thing stat.
 
YSSMAN
EDIT: Had a thought

Those $7500 federal tax incentives are going to start disappearing soon for both GM and Tesla. The Bolt is planned to start at $37,500 before incentives, while the Model 3 is targeted at $35,000 before incentives. Assuming the GM tax credits are completely eaten away by the time the Model 3 shows up in 2018 - what's GM to do? For that matter, how long do we really think Tesla's credits will last once production is able to ramp up on the Model 3?
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I've read that after 200,000 electric vehicles have been sold (for each company), the tax credit program will end. For Tesla this actually might happen before the first Model 3 even ships. For GM, that margin should last quite a while.

The problem with the grill is not that it doesn't have one, but rather that it looks like it was designed *for* one that has been deleted in the design process.

A few examples of cars without aesthetic grills (despite having hidden cooling apertures otherwise)

C4 & C5 Corvette
Porsche 911 up until 993 or 996 generation (arguable)
Fiat 500
VW Beetle
Chevy Corvair
Citroen DS

None of these look like they are missing anything despite not having obvious grills.
 
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The problem is that a "non-grille" look is only really possibly with an mid or rear engine mounted car with a lower profile nose. Doesn't really work on a sedan front engine style nose.
 
catamount39
The problem is that a "non-grille" look is only really possibly with an mid or rear engine mounted car with a lower profile nose. Doesn't really work on a sedan front engine style nose.
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The problem with this car is that they put a ridge along the top making it look like a grille should be there. If they had just sloped the hood down we probably wouldn't be having this conversation. ;)
 
You guys getting mad about the no grill thing: It's there; it's just really low. When you see that as it's "mouth", then the look really works. It's the same way Porsche does their thing.
 
Omnis
You guys getting mad about the no grill thing: It's there; it's just really low. When you see that as it's "mouth", then the look really works. It's the same way Porsche does their thing.
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The problem is, the Porsche's hood slope starts much lower than the Model 3's. This causes the front of the Model 3 to have a large vertical slab on the front where a conventional gasoline car would have its "mouth". If the front of the Model 3 had more of a sports car profile (GT86 for example), then there wouldn't be a problem. But because it keeps the sedan profile, the front looks ill proportioned if you see the lower intake as a "mouth"
 
After letting it digest and simmer in my head throughout the day. The lack of a big faux grille doesn't bother me nearly as much as when I first saw the car. I've probably started to look at the car as a whole, while in the beginning all I could focus on was the awkward blank space in the middle of the nose.
 
Well that works for me. Didn't even have to fire up PS when I got home. :P

Edit: Someone upload that to Instagram and tag Elon Musk, he needs to see it.
 
Someone needs to photoshop a model s type grill on this car. It just looks like an unfinished car model to me without any grill.
 

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