The 2012 Driver transfer discussion/speculation thread

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You could actually call the 2010 car good.

It wasn't shabby, wasn't good either. Mainly cause Ferrari are making good road cars at the moment. When they start to go bad Ferrari will be back in F1 :dopey:
 
The 2010 Ferrari very nearly won the drivers championship. It only lost because of Vitaly Petrov :lol: (GO PETROV :)). I would call that a good car.
 
Turun Sanomat gets in on teh Engrish:
Petrov believed that he would drive as Räikkönen's team mate

Turun Sanomat 25.1.2012 21:46:07

Kimi Räikkönen and Romain Grosjean are now in the team from which Russian Vitaly Petrov had to go. Petrov is however not bitter - at least not at Räikkönen.

– I believed that I would drive together with Kimi but then things turned upside down and now his team mate is a completely different driver, Petrov said on Wednesday.

– It's good for the team and good for F1 that Kimi is back again. I like him a lot because our personalities are quite similar. Afterall there was only about 200 km between us.

All and all Petrov lets bygones be bygones and concentrates on the future.

– The team made their decision and I have to accept that. Now there is a new season, a new life and I am here in the audience looking at what we can do.

Petrov worked as the first Russian pilot in F1 for Pirelli when they presented their tyres in Abu Dhabi. The negotiations proceed so that Petrov would start as Pirelli's test driver once they first get the test car -matters sorted out.

F1-racing has pressure to maintain their Russian representation because after two years Russia gets their first GP-race.

Another setback for Petrov is that just as the negotiations were critical his manager Oksana Kosatshenko broke his leg.

Petrov has been after Jarno Trulli's seat in Caterham but the Italian hasn't agreed to terminate his contract.

– At the moment I can't tell anything. Now I'm working for Pirelli and it's possible that we continue our co-work which might be interesting. Pirelli is important for F1 and also an important company for the car industry. I might return in 1-2 years so this combination could be good for me too, not just for Pirelli.

– Pirelli has made different tyres for this year so it's best to hang around and get to know them. I am not worried. There's still two weeks before the winter tests begin so there is still time to make a decision.

– We have been discussing about what I would do this year. My options are either a test- or a race driver. We are now thinking about the best option. The most important thing would be not to lose the experience I have gained during two years, because if I would do something else, then my touch for F1 would disappear.
 
Petrov reckons his future will be sorted out within a week:

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/97172

Pirelli invited him to attend the event in Abu Dhabi, which appears to have been their first contact with him.

I didn't see you put this up yet, but Pirelli have denied the rumors of a test role for Petrov

“Just to clarify Vitaly [Petrov] is here as a guest. We do not have a test car never mind talking test drivers. So no truth in rumours.”
Paul Hembery Twitter
 
Read a tweet this morning that suggests Barrichello will be trying out at IndyCar. Not reported elsewhere yet so take it with a pinch.
 
It wasn't shabby, wasn't good either. Mainly cause Ferrari are making good road cars at the moment. When they start to go bad Ferrari will be back in F1 :dopey:
Ferrari's road car operations and racing operations, despite being based under the same roof, do not share resources and personnel. So what Ferrari does with their road cars has no effect on what they do in Formula One. :)

Read a tweet this morning that suggests Barrichello will be trying out at IndyCar. Not reported elsewhere yet so take it with a pinch.

It's just a test. Tony Kanaan invited him.
Personally I wanted to see Rubens's wish of a twentieth season in Formula One fulfilled, unfortunately it failed to work out for him however. So despite being 'just a test', I do hope that something actually results from it; at least a part-time drive in IndyCar for 2012.

In my opinion Rubens has the potential to do well in IndyCar. Despite the fact he's raced only in Formula One since 1993, we are aware of his adaptability. In the wet, Formula One machines behave very differently from the way they perform on a dry track. And yet Rubens was more often than not, one of the fastest drivers in changing conditions. Although of course, testing a machine that compares so little to what he is used to will be a very different experience. So we won't know for definite until after the test is completed.
 
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Ferrari's road car operations and racing operations, despite being based under the same roof, do not share resources and personnel. So what Ferrari does with their road cars has no effect on what they do in Formula One. :)

Look back trough history and you'd be surprised at the relationship between goo ferrari road cars and F1 cars.
 
Look back trough history and you'd be surprised at the relationship between goo ferrari road cars and F1 cars.


One can only imagine that by pushing the envelope in their F1 cars, Ferrari takes that experience to road cars. I would say that even nowadays whatever they gain of experience with their engines will be valuable for their road cars engines too.
(don't forget Ferrari makes their own engines and therefore is not to be compared to most of the UK teams, running engines they buy, unless they are themselves bought by car making companies from Germany, France, Japan, etc. So, the know how from building their own race engines I suspect has a great influence on the development of their road engines)

Aerodynamics also, even a "peaceful" 599 GTB has a diffuser at the back.

But that does not invalidate what csmeteora9 wrote. These operations have dedicated and separated people working on them. It's way up in the Ferrari structure that road and race cars get connected.

Think also about this ... di Montezemolo has been saying fora few years now that the way F1 is going, nothing being developed there is useful for making road cars (I think he was talking about the focus on cutting edge aerodynamics with disregard for everything else). Anyway, Ferrari also has a very successful GT lineup of race cars, also separated from the road and F1 ones, so I guess it's all the pieces fitting together that makes them be as good as they are, even when they are bad for their own standards :D
 
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Look back trough history and you'd be surprised at the relationship between goo ferrari road cars and F1 cars.
To be fair I am unable to see much of a relationship. Seems to me that until recent years, regardless of the Scuderia performing well or not, their road cars had always been a mixed bag. Some cars had their problems while others were near perfection. Still, I could be wrong. :) If you wish to continue this discussion then do so on my profile. We're going too far off topic here. :eek:
 
The Ferrari 599XX Evo has DRS. http://www.topgear.com/uk/car-news/ferrari-599xx-evolution-package-2011-12-01

Pretty good relationship with the F1 car.
Indeed. However may I point out that we were referring to a possible relationship between Ferrari building great road cars and their Formula One effort suffering as a result. Personally I don't believe there is a link however that is what we were debating.

In a vague attempt to return this thread to subject of which it was created for; is it just me or does Petrov keep delaying the announcement on his future?
 
Indeed Ferrari & Ducuti are both claiming to be working around the clock on their 2012 machines this passing off season (plus keeping up with their marketing parties), so they will be on my radar this year, and I will be watching to see if they finally made the right improvements. Its really on the factory shoulders now, because in my opinion they have top notch drivers from the likes of Fernando Alonso & Valentino Rossi.
 
It wasn't shabby, wasn't good either. Mainly cause Ferrari are making good road cars at the moment. When they start to go bad Ferrari will be back in F1 :dopey:

As far as I know this is something Top Gear said. In other words, it's most likely wrong :lol:
 
Can you blame him? He was about six seconds behind the rest of the grid in the HRT.
Well, up until now it's felt like he's been in a bit of denial about it. HRT have openly said some time ago that whoever wants the second seat is going to need six million Euros - at least - to their name before being considered.
 
f1engima is reporting that a test seat could be announced this afternoon. He calls it a "good Friday seat", so I'm guessing it will be a third driver for McLaren (if the Alguersuari rumours are true), Mercedes or possibly Force India.
 
So we just need Bottas at Williams and Algersuari.....somewhere and frankly I'd be more then happy with this years line-up. Looking pretty good.
 
It was announced some time ago that Bottas would be the reserve driver for Williams, and indeed would be taking Senna's seat during 15 Friday practice sessions in 2012. As far as I'm aware of, there's no need for speculation regarding this matter.
 
It was announced some time ago that Bottas would be the reserve driver for Williams, and indeed would be taking Senna's seat during 15 Friday practice sessions in 2012. As far as I'm aware of, there's no need for speculation regarding this matter.

Source? I see no official announcements anywhere.
 
No wonder when its hidden away in a paragraph! Man, the motorsport media fails on that one as even Autosport doesn't seem to have an article on it!
 
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