The 2020 George Floyd/BLM/Police Brutality Protests Discussion Thread

Danoff
Lots. There were so many bad decisions by so many people. It is the kind of cluster you'd expect when you have untrained morons playing captain america with a semi-auto rifle. It's bad enough with just the police, who are actually trained to handle riots (and sometimes drive their cars into protestors). When you have someone who has no idea how to handle that situation, people are going to get shot.

Would you agree that Rittenhouse should have stayed home, and that all he did was put people in danger? What would you say Rittenhouse should have done differently? 🤔
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They all should have stayed home. But at the same time this fact doesn't take away Kyle's right to self defence. I think we all saw the video and it was quite clear who is attacking whom.
Chrunch Houston
Not Guilty!!!
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Not guilty on all charges 👍.
 
Sprite
Well, the jury has given its verdict. While I think this certainly sets a deadly precedent, I hope young teens with guns in the US don’t take away the bad in this and use it to think before they leap.
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No I think the gun nuts of all ages now have been given the green light they've so desperately wanted for a long time now. Conservatives have already legalized vehicular homicide now you will see roaming bands of vigilantes looking to hunt down and kill anyone that might have a difference of opinion and have taken to the streets to voice that opinion.

They've been itching to use all of these guns they have and now the courts have granted their wish. Of course this idiot kid was found innocent. Do you want to be the judge or jury members that convict him? You and your family would probably all be tracked down and shot before sundown if not sooner.

No, America has now been rolled back to the days of the old west in the 1870's. Where each gun nut can now be just like their hero John Wesley Hardin who was so mean he shot a guy just for snoring. Except now you can just shoot someone if their dog poops on your lawn, or their shopping cart bumps into their vehicle....BAM!!!! shoot them. All you have to say is it was self defense. "They were coming right for us Ned".
 
Not that I feel there's any point in asking this question, but...
lancia delta hf
Then later he chased Kyle and Kyle shot the dirty pardo that raped 5 children.
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Did Hero With a Gun Kyle Rittenhouse know in advance that he was extrajudicially executing someone who had already served their time for a crime they had committed before Rittenhouse was even born?




Because I cannot imagine any other context where this qualifier could possibly mean anything for this "conversation".
 
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novcze
They all should have stayed home
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Protesting is deeply American. Bungling your way through poorly conceived police work because of a lack of training and getting people shot is unfortunately deeply American as well, but it's not supposed to be a protected right.

The American legal system errs on the side of letting people get away with some things. Sometimes it delivers us OJ, Casey Anthony, and Rittenhouse.
 
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Scaff
Rather glad to be European right now
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Well, looks like this recent discussion was about a European dependent though. Just saying.

One of the reasons why I left the USA, was I couldn’t make it work for me. It’s a beautiful country. For those that can make the place work and are enjoying their life, that’s all good. Most of my family friends and relatives remain there. My ancestors came from Africa to the Caribbean and a set of my great grandparents left the Caribbean for the USA. Other set of great grandparents were born in the south.
For all the joys I had growing up, never felt I belonged in the states. Knew I wanted to leave, due to the politics, moreso than the Color of my skin.

For the USA to claim, at times when I grew up, they are the peace keepers of the world and placing their hands in countries across the globe, the place still can’t sort things on home soil. There might not be out n out battle zones like other countries, where it’s rocks versus missiles, but the states are just as bad. Having lived it from The Bronx down to Orlando, I really see it looking from the outside. It’s embarrassing.
The America with the 50-52 states only come together, seemingly, when the place is attacked from again, seemingly, outside forces. However, the place remains separated, clearly, when the people still can’t get passed skin tones. Conspiracy theory or not, it been designed this way since indigenous populations were cut down.
Living there, I used to be proud I wasn’t somewhere else. 14 years later and speaking with other ex-pats from the USA, it’s unanimous, we’re glad to have made the choice to leave and be where we are.

Many countries still have this problem, but for the USA to not even be a leader in squashing the color beef and gun laws, it seems more like a (such a bad derogatory term)third world country, than a third world country.
 
Da ****?
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“Just kill them all, if they don’t, this will just end up becoming like The Division.”

Touch grass please. There are ways of handling riots properly without having to resort to mass genocide of violent protestors.
 
There's going to be 3-4 random gangs evolving for control over Kenosha that includes a rogue military group & hidden CIA-like operatives amongst the civilian population to contain it?

That person either never played the game or took a completely weird message from it.
 
The acquittal definitely sets a precedent doesn't it? There'll be a lot more vigilantes crossing state lines and carry guns to "solve" an issue that had nothing to do with them. The streets will become warzones and far more dangerous than they have any right to be from now on. What a joke. I can't understand the justice system in the US.
 
CLowndes888
The acquittal definitely sets a precedent doesn't it?
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No more than George Zimmerman, Casey Anthony, OJ Simpson and countless other obviously guilty parties that walked did.

I specifically bring up those three cases as well and not just because of their high profile but because they share one common trait with Rittenhouse, insanely incompetent prosecution.
 
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I'm kind of curious about what's going to happen in the civil case against Rittenhouse. I'm guessing he won't be as fortunate since, in theory at least, there won't be incompetent prosecution...much like what happened with OJ.

And looking more into all the charges that were filed against Rittenhouse, this is just another case of going for something that was way too difficult to prove. With first degree, you need to prove intent and I don't think there was ever going to be enough evidence to do that, even if I personally think he had intended to kill people that night.

Seems like manslaughter would have been a charge that would've stuck and been fairly easy to prove since all they'd need to prove is negligence. Even third-degree murder would've been much easier to prove.

I'm also confused as to why Count 6, which dealt with the possession of a firearm by someone under 18, and Count 7, which dealt with the failure to comply with an emergency order were thrown out. I know with Count 6 the judge said the weapon was a long barrel, but if it's a long barrel, then why are AR-style rifles subjected to handgun laws? I know it's model dependant though and I'm not sure what model Rittenhouse had. It seems like it's a fault in the law more than anything though.

With Count 7, the judge said there wasn't enough evidence, which seems like a load of crap. I know this charge was minor, but he was guilty of it since they could very easily pin him to a location at a certain time.
 
05XR8
Well, looks like this recent discussion was about a European dependent though. Just saying.

One of the reasons why I left the USA, was I couldn’t make it work for me. It’s a beautiful country. For those that can make the place work and are enjoying their life, that’s all good. Most of my family friends and relatives remain there. My ancestors came from Africa to the Caribbean and a set of my great grandparents left the Caribbean for the USA. Other set of great grandparents were born in the south.
For all the joys I had growing up, never felt I belonged in the states. Knew I wanted to leave, due to the politics, moreso than the Color of my skin.

For the USA to claim, at times when I grew up, they are the peace keepers of the world and placing their hands in countries across the globe, the place still can’t sort things on home soil. There might not be out n out battle zones like other countries, where it’s rocks versus missiles, but the states are just as bad. Having lived it from The Bronx down to Orlando, I really see it looking from the outside. It’s embarrassing.
The America with the 50-52 states only come together, seemingly, when the place is attacked from again, seemingly, outside forces. However, the place remains separated, clearly, when the people still can’t get passed skin tones. Conspiracy theory or not, it been designed this way since indigenous populations were cut down.
Living there, I used to be proud I wasn’t somewhere else. 14 years later and speaking with other ex-pats from the USA, it’s unanimous, we’re glad to have made the choice to leave and be where we are.

Many countries still have this problem, but for the USA to not even be a leader in squashing the color beef and gun laws, it seems more like a (such a bad derogatory term)third world country, than a third world country.
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Is there any room down there for me? :nervous:
 
Once again, the media lies and libs just lap it up.

For four years Trump was a Russian pawn. lap lap
The walls are closing in... lap lap
Bombshell report... lap lap lap

A kid from Covington wearing a MAGA hat got in the face of an Indian elder veteran... lap lap lap
White supremacist smirking at the man of color... lap lap lap
Tried to intimidate... lap lap lap

Rittenhouse grabbed his gun and crosses state lines... lap lap lap
White supremacist went to hunt black people... lap lap lap lap
Listen to us, don't believe the videos, and your lying eyes... lap lap lap lap lap

I find it amazing how many people fall for this crap over and over again.

I hope Rittenhouse was paying attention to the Nick Sandmann situation. He should sue the crap out of everyone that defamed him.
 
Sprite
You also don't seem to be getting this either. Its super simple really.

I understand he worked in the area, I understand he had family in the area, I understand he's allowed a gun and to openly carry said weapon. That I have no issue with.

I also understand he feared for his safety.

What is wrong with all that Rittenhouse did...?

He shouldn't have been there. It's not really hard to understand.

He had a choice to make

1. Riots in the area where I work and my family lives. I'll get an automatic rifle, designed for killing people and I'll head to where these riots are and put myself in harms way. If I then get into bother with someone I'll just shoot them.

2. Riots in the area where I work and my family lives. I'll get an automatic rifle, designed for killing people but I'll stay with my family and keep them safe and their property safe.

3. Riots in the area where I work and my family lives. I'll leave work and the area and stay home. I may even ask my family if they wish to come over to mine to stay safe.

Basically there is only one reason to choose option one, that's so he could kill people in the name of keeping the peace. If he chose option one he knew people rioting were dangerous, he knew openly carrying would possibly make him a target of others who wanted to be confrontational. He knew at some point he would have to pull the trigger. What is really sad is, he took lives so easily and people are defending his actions.

Also quoting someone and then overtypeing your own rubbish into the quote & effectively putting words in my mouth isn't a great show. To be honest its a little offensive and doing so really speaks volumes of your intentions.
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I don't agree with your opinion, but I don't have a negative opinion of you as a person, nor do I assume that your opinions reflect your intentions, or are representative of you as a person. 🤘😎
 
... I think the prosecution over-charged to start with ... & then conducted an inept prosecution. Kyle Rittenhouse's crime was injecting himself & his gun into a situation where bad outcomes were very likely. But I don't think he did it out of malicious intent & had no desire or expectation that he would end up shooting anyone. That things spiralled out of control was predictable, but I guess not to a naive 17 year old. I think the prosecution should have opted for lesser charges to start with & presented a case that focused on those.

On to the Arbery case. :indiff:
 

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