The "Euro Truck Simulator"-series Thread.

[knukken]

Are there any free demos of this on steam or something ? would be keen to give it a go just for something different.

Also does it have triple monitor support ?

http://www.eurotrucksimulator2.com/download.php

 

[LogiForce]

I haven't personally, my father and grandfather both have, I have driven a lot of Volvo coaches though and really, they are the same except for the obvious body and chassis, all the engine, gearbox, electrics etc etc are identical

Which would make them a lot easier to mass produce, but also to worm on as contact points for official accessoires are already embedded in the wiring loom.

Small question I am curious about though. As someone with trucking history, how well are the individual truck characteristics represented within ETS2? Like suspension, stability, torque curves... etc.
Or more simply put. From real life experience, can you recognize a Volvo, Man, Daf, Iveco, Mercedes by their in-game characteristics?

 

[P1K3Y_M1k3Y]

Which would make them a lot easier to mass produce, but also to worm on as contact points for official accessoires are already embedded in the wiring loom.

Small question I am curious about though. As someone with trucking history, how well are the individual truck characteristics represented within ETS2? Like suspension, stability, torque curves... etc.
Or more simply put. From real life experience, can you recognize a Volvo, Man, Daf, Iveco, Mercedes by their in-game characteristics?

As for Suspension, stability etc, it is hard to say as there is no real feeling in the game, can't feel how well it is accelerating, riding bumps, or how much lean there is in the corners, but what I see on screen does seem to look right, I.E. the cab will lean in a turn, and quite a lot if going too fast although, as you stated above, there is just too much police on the road (and more personal risk) IRL so never been in a truck being driven flat out like some do in the game
The look of the trucks, inside and out, is spot on to the real thing (although I think most know that).

 

[samurai8juice]

It's happening! (not Going North, though ). It's only a "High Power Cargo Pack" with 7 new types of loads. I hope they are heavier than the currently heaviest trailer at 25 tonnes, as that would give us a good reason to use the 700+ HP engines. If they aren't, that would make it quite a pointless add-on IMHO. Simply adding new load styles doesn't add much in the way of replayability. The new paintjob looks good, though. I wonder what the pricing is going to be.

The Yacht looks like it'd be fun to haul. Its so hoisted up in the air. Especially with the new stability option. I hope its a free DLC.

When I first saw trailer browser I was thinking trailer livery editor, but I don't think that's what it'll be.

http://www.eurotrucksimulator2.com/download.php

http://store.steampowered.com/app/227300/

 

[spinner]

Good to hear about the new features and content. The new cargo pack is a nice touch too , but with some excellent , free mods available that already provide challenging loads (up to 70t), I'm not as excited as scs would like me to be
The downside for us mod junkies is having to wait for patches so we can update to the current game version. I haven't even looked at 1.11 yet because Promods has such a firm grip on me

While I'm here , a recent pic from Portsmouth (Promods) . So much detail in the dockyards and container depots.

Portsmouth 2 by spinnerpics1, on Flickr

 

[LogiForce]

As for Suspension, stability etc, it is hard to say as there is no real feeling in the game, can't feel how well it is accelerating, riding bumps, or how much lean there is in the corners, but what I see on screen does seem to look right, I.E. the cab will lean in a turn, and quite a lot if going too fast although, as you stated above, there is just too much police on the road (and more personal risk) IRL so never been in a truck being driven flat out like some do in the game
The look of the trucks, inside and out, is spot on to the real thing (although I think most know that).

True, the game is missing some good FFB. FFB which should naturally roll out of the game's Physics engine. Also for the full experience of having a trailer attached I think you'd really need a good motion rig. Cause at least with a car and caravan, the rear of the car starts to 'hop' (for a lack of a better term) as the caravan starts to erratically swing left to right behind the car. I don't know how these limits feel with a trailer behind a truck though, but I'd imagine you'd miss a lot of info that would normally come in through your back and your butt.

 

[Awong124]

When are we supposed to be getting official Mercedes badging to replace Majestic? SCS said back in March that it was happening.

 

[Kamuifanboy]

When are we supposed to be getting official Mercedes badging to replace Majestic? SCS said back in March that it was happening.

Similarly they seem to be taking their sweet old time on the DAF XF Euro 6, Mercedes Actros MP4, and Renault T. I wonder if things fell through and that is why they haven't said anything about it.

 

[Dean]

Similarly they seem to be taking their sweet old time on the DAF XF Euro 6, Mercedes Actros MP4, and Renault T. I wonder if things fell through and that is why they haven't said anything about it.

I hope not, I really look forward to trying out the Actros...

 

[samurai8juice]

Majestic isn't real? Well, that's how much I pay attention, lol.

 

[LogiForce]

Similarly they seem to be taking their sweet old time on the DAF XF Euro 6, Mercedes Actros MP4, and Renault T. I wonder if things fell through and that is why they haven't said anything about it.

As a Dutch guy I'd really love to drive that new DAF once. Also if they could add the following livery...

yes, that's a real truck (in case you guys were wondering). This is actually at the back of TT Circuit Assen. They hold annual truck festivals there.

Edit:
We need all these new Euro 6 trucks! (for as far as we don't have them yet. We can skip the Iveco and Renault in my opinion)

 

[samurai8juice]

Why are Euro Trucks flat, and American Trucks curvy(or jutted) I guess you could call it..?

 

[Dan]

Probably a safety or size regulations thing. Remember, us 'Muricans have big roads for our big cars. Those puny Europeans drive their puny cars on puny roads.

 

[LogiForce]

Why are Euro Trucks flat, and American Trucks curvy(or jutted) I guess you could call it..?

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Probably a safety or size regulations thing. Remember, us 'Muricans have big roads for our big cars. Those puny Europeans drive their puny cars on puny roads.

Remember that most of our cities streets and roads were build or laid the foundations of during the Roman Empire's existence (so around 500 BC). So the streets were initially build for close combat protection and horse and carriage usage. Mostly until the early 90's I suppose. Than Hitler gave us the Autobahn/Highways and such during World War 2. Before that there were only 2 lane B-roads. Again still mostly populated by horse and carriage. A lot of the critical and direct (from town to town) B-roads were laid down by the Roman's so as to more easily transport their legions of troops at great speed over great distances. After the initial infrastructure was laid out by the Romans, each European country simply and basically improved upon them until this day. Sometimes adding a road left or right to divert traffic as to counter any existing traffic congestion spots. One of those means being ring roads around cities and such.

Also the Japanese towns have even smaller streets, especially the villages. These is because their war tactics were even more focused on close combat than the European countries were.

These little pieces of history is what's missing in the rather by comparison young existing Canada and USA.

Here's the Roman infrastructure.
Wikipedia says: "The Roman empire in the time of Hadrian (ruled 117–38), showing the network of main Roman roads."
Or to be more exact (if you click the map) than this is from the year 125.

Edit:
These are buses, but it's the same in all cities in the Netherlands... the streets can be very tight sometimes.




The explanation on Wikipedia is this...


Link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cab_over
"This truck configuration is currently common among European and Japanese truck manufacturers, because the laws governing overall vehicle lengths are strict and the body style allows longer trailers (in the case of a tractor-trailer truck) or a longer cargo area (in the case of a "straight" truck, a truck with a single rigid frame supporting all components and the load) for the same overall length.

Although popular among United States heavy truckers and trucking companies during the 1970s because of strict length laws in many states, when those length laws were repealed, most heavy-truck makers moved to other body styles. It is, however, still very popular in the light- and medium-duty truck segment, with models such as the Isuzu NPR series or the Mitsubishi Fuso FE and FK/FM series."

 

[Kamuifanboy]

I hope not, I really look forward to trying out the Actros...

Me too! It certainly looks better than the previous model!

As a Dutch guy I'd really love to drive that new DAF once.

Edit:
We need all these new Euro 6 trucks! (for as far as we don't have them yet. We can skip the Iveco and Renault in my opinion)

The DAF XF Euro 6 has been my favourite truck that I've seen in real life. Getting a bit impatient waiting for it!

Is it just me, or is the Scania looking a bit outdated? I think it's time for a facelift (*cough* R1000 *cough*)

Why are Euro Trucks flat, and American Trucks curvy(or jutted) I guess you could call it..?

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Like @LogiForce said, it mainly has to do with the road structures. In America, most of our roads were made less than 200 years ago. Even the ones in small towns. So, the roads in the US are designed for cars be able to pass through quite easily. In Europe and much of Asia, everything was designed for walking or horses.

I'm personally more of a fan of the overtop cab. Looks really clean and modern. You won't find any of the Euro 6 elegance in America!

Hopefully SCS are just keeping it a secret so that they can release them all at the same time and surprise us all!

 

[michrulejj]

Everyone talking about how they have favorite trucks based on what they saw in reality... And I'm just chilling over here in the states never seeing one in person. And sticking to my Peterbilts Lol

But honestly this is why I love traveling and going to different places and am planning to study abroad next fall. To see how another culture is so different from yours yet so similar.

 

[Leggy1]

The new cargo DLC looks good, although I was hoping for some new trailers too, 4 or 5 axle ones. Those big loads need some heavy duty trailers.

Nice to see a heavy duty paint job though, I've been looking for one of those.

@samurai8juice It seems weird that the european trucks have more powerful engine options, even though they are smaller and probably haul lighter loads most of the time.

 

[P1K3Y_M1k3Y]

Why are Euro Trucks flat, and American Trucks curvy(or jutted) I guess you could call it..?

View attachment 200892

If you want an answer that is a little less than a history lesson to what @LogiForce wrote:

Remember that most of our cities streets and roads were build or laid the foundations of during the Roman Empire's existence (so around 500 BC). So the streets were initially build for close combat protection and horse and carriage usage. Mostly until the early 90's I suppose. Than Hitler gave us the Autobahn/Highways and such during World War 2. Before that there were only 2 lane B-roads. Again still mostly populated by horse and carriage. A lot of the critical and direct (from town to town) B-roads were laid down by the Roman's so as to more easily transport their legions of troops at great speed over great distances. After the initial infrastructure was laid out by the Romans, each European country simply and basically improved upon them until this day. Sometimes adding a road left or right to divert traffic as to counter any existing traffic congestion spots. One of those means being ring roads around cities and such.

Also the Japanese towns have even smaller streets, especially the villages. These is because their war tactics were even more focused on close combat than the European countries were.

These little pieces of history is what's missing in the rather by comparison young existing Canada and USA.

Here's the Roman infrastructure.
Wikipedia says: "The Roman empire in the time of Hadrian (ruled 117–38), showing the network of main Roman roads."
Or to be more exact (if you click the map) than this is from the year 125.

Edit:
These are buses, but it's the same in all cities in the Netherlands... the streets can be very tight sometimes.




The explanation on Wikipedia is this...


Link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cab_over
"This truck configuration is currently common among European and Japanese truck manufacturers, because the laws governing overall vehicle lengths are strict and the body style allows longer trailers (in the case of a tractor-trailer truck) or a longer cargo area (in the case of a "straight" truck, a truck with a single rigid frame supporting all components and the load) for the same overall length.

Although popular among United States heavy truckers and trucking companies during the 1970s because of strict length laws in many states, when those length laws were repealed, most heavy-truck makers moved to other body styles. It is, however, still very popular in the light- and medium-duty truck segment, with models such as the Isuzu NPR series or the Mitsubishi Fuso FE and FK/FM series."

Due to the different way's our roads have been built for the above reasons, EU law states that a truck including trailer must not exceed more than 60 feet (18.2m) unless it is an abnormal load, then it must carry a STGO category and abide by separate law's, speed limits, driving times etc etc to match it's category.
I believe in the states the length law's apply only to each trailer rather than the whole vehicle as a whole (maybe if someone from the US could confirm this), so US truck manufacturers can build a truck cab as long as they like, whereas EU manufacturers need to keep in mind the length of the trailer and paying load space.

 

[fatkrakr]

In the USA they mostly focus on width and weight of the vehicle. There is a limit for the trailer as well but its like 57 feet or something like that, after that you need a permit.

 

[P1K3Y_M1k3Y]

In the USA they mostly focus on width and weight of the vehicle. There is a limit for the trailer as well but its like 57 feet or something like that, after that you need a permit.

But there is no limit of the total vehicle length, if I understand right?

 

[fatkrakr]

But there is no limit of the total vehicle length, if I understand right?

Yes and no. There is also a limit to the trucks length, but again that depends on weight and number of axles. You can also haul tandem trailers, with the same limits. With enough axles though technically any length can be hauled.

 

[Kamuifanboy]

Yes and no. There is also a limit to the trucks length, but again that depends on weight and number of axles. You can also haul tandem trailers, with the same limits. With enough axles though technically any length can be hauled.

So, who is going to have the pair to create and try a 1 Mile long mod

Update on my Multiplayer Profile. Haven't been playing Multiplayer because I'm upgraded to 1.11 on my laptop but, still been trucking in Singleplayer mode and now my MAN is looking a lot better. Can't wait for the 6x4 to be unlocked

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[fatkrakr]

So, who is going to have the pair to create and try a 1 Mile long mod

Australia is trying to for real.

 

[Dan]

Australia is trying to for real.

So, basically... Australians are nuts.

 

[Leggy1]

Update on my Multiplayer Profile. Haven't been playing Multiplayer because I'm upgraded to 1.11 on my laptop but, still been trucking in Singleplayer mode and now my MAN is looking a lot better. Can't wait for the 6x4 to be unlocked

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Sadly the 6x2/4 and 6x4 chassis' don't have side skirts (except the Merc 6x4). You can get mods that add them though.

Also, you have a very nice truck there. I'm a Scania guy but that MAN looks great, tastefully done 👍

 

[Davidies]

I have a 6x4 Renault Magnum. #6x4forlife #hashtagsaretotallynotcoolbuttheyouthusesitsoihavetotooforsomereason

 

[samurai8juice]

I should take a picture of my Black n Red racing striped DAF and post it up. It looks really weird with carrying a colored trailer though. Just doesn't blend.

 

[LogiForce]

I have a 6x4 Renault Magnum. #6x4forlife #hashtagsaretotallynotcoolbuttheyouthusesitsoihavetotooforsomereason

Thank god for me being an old fart that pre-dates the twatter generation.

Do you know what's more annoying than reading hashtags? Having a **** act like they are twattering in real life to you, and suddenly going all hashtag nuts on you at the end of a sentence.
At least it made me frown more than once.

 

[samurai8juice]

I should take a picture of my Black n Red racing striped DAF and post it up. It looks really weird with carrying a colored trailer though. Just doesn't blend.

I chose a trailer that's color went with the truck's color. I didn't really realize it until I took the snapshot.

 

[Kamuifanboy]

Sadly the 6x2/4 and 6x4 chassis' don't have side skirts (except the Merc 6x4). You can get mods that add them though.

Also, you have a very nice truck there. I'm a Scania guy but that MAN looks great, tastefully done 👍

I can do without the side skirts, I rarely saw them in Italy. Similarly I never saw any of the massive front bullbars that are offered in the game in real life.