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Maybe I'm alone in this, but I wasn't that impressed with KMag in 2014. He had some speed, but his racecraft was rather atrocious, specifically at Spa and Monza. His late moves on the front straight at Monza were video game-esque, and to me, showed supreme arrogance (or boneheadedness). I think his incidents at those two races with Alonso and Button are what sealed his fate at McLaren.

My prediction for him in 2016 is that he will be too aggressive, and either rack up a lot of penalties, or will fall into very poor standing with many of the drivers on the grid.
 
twitcher
Maybe I'm alone in this, but I wasn't that impressed with KMag in 2014. He had some speed, but his racecraft was rather atrocious, specifically at Spa and Monza. His late moves on the front straight at Monza were video game-esque, and to me, showed supreme arrogance (or boneheadedness). I think his incidents at those two races with Alonso and Button are what sealed his fate at McLaren.

My prediction for him in 2016 is that he will be too aggressive, and either rack up a lot of penalties, or will fall into very poor standing with many of the drivers on the grid.
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Eh, he was only aggressive in those situations due to Ron's pushing him to do so and not be so fearful. I really feel that it has more to do with Ron and his selection of young drivers than anything else. He had a great opener as we can all remember, then had a few tough races, didn't do too bad for most of the European arm of the season and towards the end did decent. The car wasn't great, and Jenson did do better, but K-Mag wasn't that bad. And I think it was a maturing factor that was needed to help him go further, but Ron saw it differently.

As for Lynn and Williams, they did say they hadn't decided who would be their support driver(s) and they've just announced Paffet (former McLaren test driver) as their new test driver. So I'm curious as to if they'll drop Lynn, or they're doing this to give him full focus on GP2 for a chance to win that and then join F1 2017.
 
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mustafur
Paffet has been signed as a Simulator tester.
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Simulator drivers are considered support drivers, and that still leaves what they plan to do with Lynn in the air. Williams said it themselves at the time when talking about Lynn over-exceeding on his role and how they have yet to pick any support drivers, then soon after Paffet was announced.
 
LMSCorvetteGT2
Williams said it themselves at the time when talking about Lynn over-exceeding on his role and how they have yet to pick any support drivers, then soon after Paffet was announced.
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They may be planning on standing him down so that he can focus on GP2 - he might have over-delivered in the simulator, but his 2015 season left a lot to be desired.
 
LMSCorvetteGT2
I've already said this in a prior post to the one you quoted.
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I see. I think I was too busy giggling at the Maldonado comic to read the whole discussion.

DAMS is a curious choice for Lynn, since Renault have announced that they are providing support to Oliver Rowland, and Rowland is going to MP Motorsport. DAMS has the better GP2 record, but Rowland had the better 2015 season. Meanwhile, Mercedes are banking on Pascal Wehrlein, while Renault are looking to Esteban Ocon (and arguably Wehrlein and Ocon are more exciting prospects than Lynn and Rowland), so I get the feeling that Lynn and Rowland will be battling one another first and foremost in GP2 - but where would they end up in 2017? I'm guessing Renault will want to replace Palmer with Ocon, Mercedes place Wehrlein at Williams, and I suspect that the title fight will be between Sirotkin and probably Gasly.
 
The Renault Duo will be under pressure as Ocon will be very likely to take one of the seats next year.

GP2 will be a hard adaption but if he gets in the Top 5 he will basically have it.
 
mustafur
The Renault Duo will be under pressure as Ocon will be very likely to take one of the seats next year.
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I suspect that it will be Palmer who is under threat before Magnussen. Magnussen has more experience of Formula One, especially under race conditions. Palmer is a pay driver.

mustafur
GP2 will be a hard adaption but if he gets in the Top 5 he will basically have it.
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It's unlikely that Ocon will do GP2. Popular opinion puts him in a DTM car so that his race duties don't distract from his role in the team.
 
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I suspect that it will be Palmer who is under threat before Magnussen. Magnussen has more experience of Formula One, especially under race conditions. Palmer is a pay driver.


It's unlikely that Ocon will do GP2. Popular opinion puts him in a DTM car so that his race duties don't distract from his role in the team.
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I would agree however he would have less expectation being a Rookie, I would still be surprised if he matches or beats Kevin.

Ocon is Basically the best Case Scenario for Renault, he has an elite level track record so far and he is French.
 
mustafur
I would agree however he would have less expectation being a Rookie
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Don't forget that he made regular FP1 appearances last year, so he's not going in completely cold - but he was only really on par with Maldonado. He never drove at the same time as Grosjean, but Grosjean was consistently better than Maldonado. I'm curious as to how things would have played out had Lotus' finances been in better shape; I can't help but feel that Palmer would not have been Renault's first choice and that they only kept him because his sponsors kept Lotus afloat while the purchase was finalised. I don't think anyone expects much of Palmer unless he pulls off a blinder, but his junior track record doesn't inspire much confidence. He's a glorified pay driver, just like Maldonado.
 
Umm, Magnussen is a pay driver too (Jack Jones).

I don't rate Palmer all that highly either, but I give him a chance against Magnussen. Kevin has to fix his aggressive driving issues concurrently with shaking off the rust and adjusting to the team. As the incumbent of sorts, Julie is in the best position possible for a rookie, so I could see him edge the Dane in a similar manner to how Di Resta had success against the more talented Hulkenburg.
 
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Umm, Magnussen is a pay driver too (Jack Jones).
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True, but he had the benefit of being in a driver development programme.

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As the incumbent of sorts, Julie is in the best position possible for a rookie, so I could see him edge the Dane in a similar manner to how Di Resta had success against the more talented Hulkenburg.
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Interesting comparison, since I see Palmer as the next di Resta - someone whose opinion of himself far outweighs his actual performance. Sure, every driver has to believe that they are the best, because the minute they stop believing is the minute they slip down the grid. But that also needs to be balanced against an awareness of how good you actually are; you need to know where your limitations are in order to be able to overcome them and improve as a driver. It's like Senna said - you think you have a limit, but once you start to explore beyond it, you start to realise what is possible. I get the impression that Palmer, like di Resta, has all of the confidence and none of the awareness that he needs.
 
SagarisGTB
Umm, Magnussen is a pay driver too (Jack Jones).

I don't rate Palmer all that highly either, but I give him a chance against Magnussen. Kevin has to fix his aggressive driving issues concurrently with shaking off the rust and adjusting to the team. As the incumbent of sorts, Julie is in the best position possible for a rookie, so I could see him edge the Dane in a similar manner to how Di Resta had success against the more talented Hulkenburg.
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Didn't Hulk blow him out of the water after mid season?
 
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twitcher
SMP vs Haas would be interesting ;)
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Well, Petrov seems to think that it's a long-term thing, but I wouldn't be too surprised if it happens sooner rather than later. SMP put their name to a lot of teams in GT racing, LMPs and junior open-wheel categories, so they'll probably put their name to a team rather than starting up from scratch.

The real challenge comes in the way they primarily support Russian drivers, so I can't see them backing a team without at least one Russian. The most likely scenario would be for them to buy into an existing team and partner Daniil Kvyat with Sergey Sirotkin - it's just matter of finding a team.
 
Lance Stroll has left the Ferrari development program for Williams
http://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/stroll-williams-better-bet-for-my-f1-future-than-ferrari-671166/

Hard to not see it as daddy's money buying him more seat time at Williams whereas the money is not as much of an influence at Ferrari. That said, he does have a better chance of getting in an F1 car with Williams, what with the backlog of guys trying to get Ferrari seats along with their habit of hiring experienced guys.

As much as the whole money side does bother me on a certain level, the silver lining is that in the short term, the money he brings could help the current Williams F1 effort.
 
prisonermonkeys
Only a very small handful of drivers do not bring sponsorship to a team as a condition of their seat.
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True, but I think with all drivers, there's a scale of skill vs money. In the specific case of Stroll, I think it's too early to tell what he brings more of, but going off of many others who have come before him, my gut tells me at this point the money is the main reason. That said, I don't think someone like Ganassi is hard up for money, and he isn't exactly know for handing out race seats willy-nilly, as far as I know.
 
twitcher
True, but I think with all drivers, there's a scale of skill vs money. In the specific case of Stroll, I think it's too early to tell what he brings more of, but going off of many others who have come before him, my gut tells me at this point the money is the main reason. That said, I don't think someone like Ganassi is hard up for money, and he isn't exactly know for handing out race seats willy-nilly, as far as I know.
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Well you only need to look at Indycar to realise he does take money.
 
twitcher
True, but I think with all drivers, there's a scale of skill vs money. In the specific case of Stroll, I think it's too early to tell what he brings more of, but going off of many others who have come before him, my gut tells me at this point the money is the main reason. That said, I don't think someone like Ganassi is hard up for money, and he isn't exactly know for handing out race seats willy-nilly, as far as I know.
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But Ganassi just signed Chilton...
 
Ferrari obviously saw the potential to refine him; they're not hard up for cash. And the decision to leave the Ferrari Driver Academy appears to have been a conscious one on Stroll's part rather than Ferrari cutting him loose. The FDA is pretty competitive; there's a Chinese teenager racing in the Toyota Development Series who looks pretty racy and more refined and consistent than Stroll. Stroll appears to have done exactly the sane thing as Alex Lynn and choose to walk away from a junior development programme of his own volition.
 
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