The FIFA Bribe Scandal...
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Wasn't Blatter's predecessor also bent? Joao Havelange was in charge of FIFA for 24 years (1974-1998) but the statute of limitations on bribes before 1995 is now over and because the old git is close to 100 now, they're not investigating. But they should have done so at the time...
FIFA is an awful organisation.
FIFA is an awful organisation.
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Meanwhile, Scotland play Qatar next week in a friendly - fortunately it's a home game.
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It's still funny to see that the FIFA PR staff are essentially playing dumb with the "We don't know about this and we never knew this happened" approach. I'm pretty sure that they certainly knew that corruption was happening for years because it's almost impossible to not have a clue that corruption in an organization has been going on for 20+ years.
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What would you expect for the PR team to say? They obviously aren't going to go out and say "Yup, we're corrupt."
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What would you expect for the PR team to say? They obviously aren't going to go out and say "Yup, we're corrupt."
If they want to save the last bit of dignity they might have, most of the top ranking members should step down, and drag that Swiss wannabe mobster with them.
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Reading some of the latest stuff coming out of the US... Justice Department are saying 'This is just the beginning', so looks like they are deadly serious. No surprise that 6 of the 7 arrested this morning intend to fight extradition.
And the Swiss Government have banned any FIFA employee who is a Swiss National from leaving the country (which will include Blatter).
This is going to get very, very interesting
Personally, I'm looking forward to seeing how FIFA's key sponsors (eg; Adidas) react over the coming days.
And the Swiss Government have banned any FIFA employee who is a Swiss National from leaving the country (which will include Blatter).
This is going to get very, very interesting
Personally, I'm looking forward to seeing how FIFA's key sponsors (eg; Adidas) react over the coming days.
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That and:
Reading some of the latest stuff coming out of the US... Justice Department are saying 'This is just the beginning', so looks like they are deadly serious. No surprise that 6 of the 7 arrested this morning intend to fight extradition.
And the Swiss Government have banned any FIFA employee who is a Swiss National from leaving the country (which will include Blatter).
This is going to get very, very interesting
Personally, I'm looking forward to seeing how FIFA's key sponsors (eg; Adidas) react over the coming days.
The DOJ does not mess around when it comes to these type of things. Their conviction rate is very high.
EDIT: I just read this line:
From Richard Weber, chief of the IRS criminal investigation, "This really is the World Cup of Fraud, and today we are issuing FIFA a red card."
Fantastic line!
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Hopefully that'll give us a chance to clear our throats.
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Always get amazed when rich powerful people get caught doing bribes, don't these people watch movies?
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I think they never stay for the ending.
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Regardless though, the only way that they could charge Havelange(provided that he is alive) with bribery today is if new evidence comes to light that a crime has been committed during his tenure with FIFA. That, gents, is what we call the new evidence exception in the statute of limitations.
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I understand, but the point is that he never had anything to do with football before ruling. It makes me extremely nervous, even though I am a brazilian, too.
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Slightly off topic, but that makes me think about how my dad always says this: "If you want to be a good criminal, make sure that you wear a suit and tie everyday." In this case, everyone who got arrested will probably take pleas to get less jail time (if convicted) and will probably be welcomed back to FIFA with open arms after their time is up if Blatter is still in charge. In fact, I'm almost willing to call that right now- they'll return and we'll have this discussion again several years down the road.
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Except that these corruption allegations relate to the conduct of officials in Latin and South America while organising matches there. The Qatar World Cup is an entirely separate issue, so if there is no evidence of wrongdoing by these men with regards to Qatar, then how can you reasonably say that the Qatar bid process was corrupted by their actions?
Say there are two by-elections on seats at the opposite ends of the country. One party wins both; however, one candidate is found to be corrupt. How can you then argue that the second candidate should lose his seat because of the actions of the first when the only thing they have in common is their party affiliation?
Reassessing the Qatar bid on the back of these allegations might be the popular thing to do - but that doesn't make it the proper thing to do.
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One question, did you read the thread at all? All of the corruption allegations that have stemmed up over the last couple of days do indeed have a root cause, and it is not over the fact that Qatar won the hosting rights for 2022 itself. It is because of the fact that you have someone, banned from FIFA activities, actively campaigning with bribes and money for a World Cup spot. The fact that the country of Qatar was the one he was doing the campaigning for compounds the issue.
It could be entirely possible that Michael Garcia's report, an unedited one, found its way to the Department of Justice.
It could be entirely possible that Michael Garcia's report, an unedited one, found its way to the Department of Justice.
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