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Also, talk H.O.T.D now! I want to hear what you all thought of it.
I enjoyed it. Just don't expect much of it, it's mostly just otaku bait. Though it has it's moments.
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I enjoyed it. Just don't expect much of it, it's mostly just otaku bait. Though it has it's moments.
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You say that just because you dodged one trap? Have you forgotten how many you've gotten caught into?
Clearly I must have, because IIRC, I've been watching better shows lately (anyway)
13331st/6371st post.
edit: Just watched Persona 6...
Why do you guys even like this show?
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How about this; say there are two copies of the exact same product sitting next to each other. One costs $75, the other costs $375. Which one would you get?
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I kind of stopped reading after that.
TC, Have you not realized you've been telling us to think of anime from the producers' POV this whole time?
Do you like being told what to do? No? Then why are you doing it to us? Why are you, of all people here, telling us, who have an income, how we should choose to spend our money?
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Yes, but I'm a consumer who is aware of how much of the anime business works. I've started to find anime underpriced here in North America. I'm not saying we should charge as much as Japan as over there, they're trying to recoup the costs of the entire show.
Here, they don't need to recoup as much money as licensing a show, and putting it out here costs way less money, especially now when licensing costs have dropped dramatically.
Here, they don't need to recoup as much money as licensing a show, and putting it out here costs way less money, especially now when licensing costs have dropped dramatically.
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Well I'm not looking to get into another pointless debate about anime and money with TC. So I'ma stay out of this one. Try to keep your sanity intact, guys.
Persona 22 made me sad face.
Persona 22 made me sad face.
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A consumer with a one-sided view of how anime business works you mean.
A disc and disc case doesn't take a lot of money to make. The problem is that there aren't enough people willing to support it... and IN that "article" you posted, the author even said merchandise are sold to make up for the loss. If we're going to be one-sided anyway, I'd rather pay $400 for a nice-ass figurine than a not-so-Limited Edition Blu Ray box set; the companies making it will have to pay license to the original creators as well.
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Solution to making anime cheaper both here and Japan (Where lower prices can make them a profit.): Make it several times more popular (Basically near-mainstream.), and make production costs/costs to bring it over here several times cheaper.
Now as for how...
Now as for how...
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I find that lots of people don't like anime because of typical things associated with it, generally referred to as "otaku bait". So to pander to the masses, they'd have to cut otaku bait and give anime a better image. There's lots of great shows out there, but anime has a very poor image because of the not so great ones.
I'd be very happy with less ecchi in my shows.
I'd be very happy with less ecchi in my shows.
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Such as Naruto. I heard one Naruto fan died by burying himself in sand because some character managed to do it.
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The argument presented in the article says Japanese residents live in smaller homes so having a collection is not ideal to them. Then in that case, they should make anime that tailors to people outside of Japan. Maybe THEN they can start making more money since the people they're trying to appeal too will actually want it. You forget the most fundamental thing about business; if the user doesn't want it, they aren't going to buy it. North Americans don't like moe, so why would they want it? Why would tacking on a bigger price help in any way? The moe shows producers keep falling back on are tailored towards people in Japan, but they don't buy discs, so they're doing something wrong, not us.
13337 post right here.
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you care way to much about post count aos
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Yes, but just be aware that the Blu-ray and DVD sales are the most important part for late-night anime. For stuff like Gundam that's mainstream, and airs during the day, most money is made from merchandise and other things, but that's not the case for late-night (Niche) anime like High School DxD.
Merchandising helps, but for the vast majority of anime which airs late at night, it can't make enough money to cover a very big chunk of the production costs they have to recoup.
Too bad that if they cut down on what panders to the otaku (The only people who really have any interest in anime in general in the first place.), companies would go under before they could bring in a bunch of non-otaku bait every season. K-On! sells way better than the non-otaku bait shows.
Uh, no. If they make more stuff aimed at us (Stuff like Trigun which didn't really do well in Japan, and probably lost money in Japan.), they'd have problems. Gonzo as I've heard tried to make many shows aimed at us, but all it did was cause problems for them (If you didn't hear, they've been having money problems.).The argument presented in the article says Japanese residents live in smaller homes so having a collection is not ideal to them. Then in that case, they should make anime that tailors to people outside of Japan. Maybe THEN they can start making more money since the people they're trying to appeal too will actually want it. You forget the most fundamental thing about business; if the user doesn't want it, they aren't going to buy it. North Americans don't like moe, so why would they want it? Why would tacking on a bigger price help in any way? The moe shows producers keep falling back on are tailored towards people in Japan, but they don't buy discs, so they're doing something wrong, not us.
13337 post right here.
Right now, domestic sales come first, especially since non-domestic sales are just gravy, due to so many people not having any interest in buying any anime, whether it be moe or not ("Why buy Trigun for $23 on Amazon when I can download it for free?"). The only really reliable markets outside of Japan are some in Europe like France which as I've heard has a really healthy anime market, and some companies have bigger libraries than FUNimation (The company that has the most licenses here-200+).
Also, the moe shows do sell (Go look at sales in this thread.). The otaku do buy the discs. They're the only ones really concerned with having a collection, and watching anime in general in the first place. Normal people in Japan don't really have any interest in anime in general (Stuff that isn't Ghibli, DBZ, Gundam, Naruto, etc.) to begin with.
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This doesn't make sense to me. Is it another one of those stupid as 🤬 old fashioned sayings that you've picked up?
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No, your brain is just mash potatoes right now.
I'm all for e-fame. I haven't made a single thread about my post count. I just spam in Michael's, and then he's all "shut up AOS" when he lost the race.
I'm all for e-fame. I haven't made a single thread about my post count. I just spam in Michael's, and then he's all "shut up AOS" when he lost the race.
wrong you know how i made that post sound l33t so i showed it off by pointing at the coinicidence and how it happened to be 3 times more let with the extra 3
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I only lost the race because... you know why I lost it, why am I even explaining it?
Shut. Your face.
Shut. Your face.
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No, it isn't a stupid as 🤬 old fashioned saying. Other people who are into how the anime business works here also use it.
The gravy in this is just extra money from sales in places other than Japan (The non-domestic sales.). It's not enough to support the production of an entire new 13 episode show. The Japanese used to rely more on licensing costs here, but as they plummeted along with anime sales here, it's no longer another mashed potato, it's gravy.
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