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Nvm, tree'd by @Johnnypenso. đź‘Ť
The GT6 Epic Whining and Crying Thread
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Downhill Dino
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So basically every racing game that isn't GT. Or just every racing game's PR talk.
Disclaimer: I am in no way on the "PD defense team". For future reference.
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PR is releasing only brief trailers, with brief glimpses of only the best of the best visuals from replays and not direct gameplay, with dubbed sounds because the real sounds would turn people off. There are thousands of gameplay videos available for PCars in it's beta stage, with whatever graphics, lighting, sounds, physics etc. are already available. It's been out there for more than a year and subject to the scrutiny of the internet and held up very well. It's being funded and developed with direct input and feedback from the community. If you think those two things are equal I have no comeback to that. Either you get the difference or you don't.
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Gran Turismo: Earth shattering. Totally original and new. Too good to ignore. Best selling PS One game of all time.
Gran Turismo 2: A SUPERB sequel to the original. Many new manufacturers added along with more tracks. Racing bliss.
Gran Turismo 3: Loved by some, hated by others. The game sells very well and gives us a glimpse of what GT can be on new hardware.
Gran Turismo 4: A PS2 god. Some of the best graphics for its time, along with a solid career mode plus 750+ cars to drive! This is Gran Turismo at its best ever (arguably).
Gran Turismo 5: An extremely long wait for a very weak video game. GT5 feels rushed and incomplete for a game in development for that many years. It also becomes a marketing tool for Nissan, while its career mode is becoming too redundant. A lack of features requested for many years is still been ignored. Online is functional, but inconsistent.
Gran Turismo 6: Another struggling title. It sells poorly and still fails to add features that fans have been requesting for multiple years. Career mode is slightly less dull than GT5, but it's clear during the PS3 era that GT mode needs an ENTIRELY new approach. Online is tweaked, but GT6 turns away even more fans than GT5. While new tracks and cars are added via updates, it requires more than 6 months to add the course maker, and a sound update will only be ready for Gran Turismo 7.
Gran Turismo 7: Believe me, we'll fix most, if not all of your problems! Just wait for another update or two....or three. We're so sick of your incessant complaining, that we created a blog that will attempt to address your concerns, as we take multiple days, or even weeks to answer a single question. Fans want a livery editor? It's technically possible! Better engine sounds? We're trying new things some 16 years later! Industry leaders? Not anymore.
Gran Turismo 2: A SUPERB sequel to the original. Many new manufacturers added along with more tracks. Racing bliss.
Gran Turismo 3: Loved by some, hated by others. The game sells very well and gives us a glimpse of what GT can be on new hardware.
Gran Turismo 4: A PS2 god. Some of the best graphics for its time, along with a solid career mode plus 750+ cars to drive! This is Gran Turismo at its best ever (arguably).
Gran Turismo 5: An extremely long wait for a very weak video game. GT5 feels rushed and incomplete for a game in development for that many years. It also becomes a marketing tool for Nissan, while its career mode is becoming too redundant. A lack of features requested for many years is still been ignored. Online is functional, but inconsistent.
Gran Turismo 6: Another struggling title. It sells poorly and still fails to add features that fans have been requesting for multiple years. Career mode is slightly less dull than GT5, but it's clear during the PS3 era that GT mode needs an ENTIRELY new approach. Online is tweaked, but GT6 turns away even more fans than GT5. While new tracks and cars are added via updates, it requires more than 6 months to add the course maker, and a sound update will only be ready for Gran Turismo 7.
Gran Turismo 7: Believe me, we'll fix most, if not all of your problems! Just wait for another update or two....or three. We're so sick of your incessant complaining, that we created a blog that will attempt to address your concerns, as we take multiple days, or even weeks to answer a single question. Fans want a livery editor? It's technically possible! Better engine sounds? We're trying new things some 16 years later! Industry leaders? Not anymore.
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I see this all the time and I couldn't disagree more. We don't want a perfect game, no game is perfect in the sense that it would appeal to everyone and never have any issues. What we want is a game that works, a game that has real racing, not the fustercluck that is GT Career Mode. It has become a hotlapping game essentially. The AI are so bad you have to literally suspend belief to think you're having a race. Online is a mess no matter how you slice it.
Other games have shown you can create good, competitive AI, even on the PS3. I find the AI on Grid Autosport terrific, extremely fast if you want them to be, maybe a little on the agressive side but you can easily tone this down and add a slider to GT like many other games do. Or if you want, you can tone down the AI and start from the back and each and every car will be a challenge along the way. We don't want any lemons on the grid. Below is one example of how close it can be. Only a 3 lap sprint but look at the lap times and how close the pack is from front to back.
We just want our racing back. I guarantee that if they fixed that element in the game, most of the complaints would vanish.
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I think all members on gtplanet know that GT6 should have never came out on PS3 and that was the problem for PD for releasing it and because they released it on this console that they develop a lot of problems for this game. The poor old PS3 and you got PD pushing it to the limit with GT6 caused the problem that we got for this game and that the way I see it anyway.
I still believe GT7 on PS4 will be excellent but you are always going to have people complaining that something is not right with the game but unfortunately you are never going to please everyone that plays the game.
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I'd settle for a fun game that isn't completely schizophrenic in its design long before I'd settle for a perfect one. GT2 wasn't perfect by any stretch, GT3 had its own problems (mostly regarding how "small" it seemed even though it didn't need to be), and I outright hated aspects of GT4 (mostly the AI, which is still the worst the series ever had). There seemed to be a clear goal when designing those titles, and it came through in how they played. And I don't think it's fair to say that the way Sony/Kaz seemed more intent on announcing new features for GT5 and GT6 than PD actually had on including them properly has anything to do with the system they were designed for.
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Am I the only person that's pissed off for not getting the "Apex 2.0" book?
... went to the shop to pick up my pre-ordered 15 anniversary collector's edition, they gave me the blu-ray box, nothing else. Any way I thought the store girl had made a mistake but she assured me that that was it. She was right, PD had scammed us on day one!
Went online, they had removed everything that mentioned the book. They later said it would be made available to everyone via digital download (which sort of kills one of the major benefits of getting the collector's edition). Any way GFYS PD
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... went to the shop to pick up my pre-ordered 15 anniversary collector's edition, they gave me the blu-ray box, nothing else. Any way I thought the store girl had made a mistake but she assured me that that was it. She was right, PD had scammed us on day one!
Went online, they had removed everything that mentioned the book. They later said it would be made available to everyone via digital download (which sort of kills one of the major benefits of getting the collector's edition). Any way GFYS PD
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*Kaz confirms standard cars are returning in GT7. T10 releases new car pack that contains the Lamborghini Veneno and other "premium quality" cars*
Take note Kaz and PD!
Take note Kaz and PD!
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Stunning. A beautiful eclectic mix of cars. Probably all outsourced too. When you see what we're getting for DLC in GT and what they are getting in Forza, it makes perfect sense why it's free here and they have to pay for most of it. Because it's worth paying for!!
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Excatly. đź‘Ť And it's funny that one person from the status updates said "Oh well at least we get free cars in GT6 and not pay for any that should have been there from the start."... Ugh.
I rather Forza anytime and anyday when it comes to making DLC that's actually, as you said Johnny, worth your money.
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It's so very apparent that Kazunori and PD are the type of developers that will proudly sink with their ship before they are dictated what to do next. Yes, they've created a blog that will give us a more friendly, more personal take on what PD partakes in....and hopefully they take all the criticisms with open arms. They ought to be embracing them and praising the easy accessibility of their fans' thoughts and ideas...also known as: the Internet.
The staff is SO small that PD are only currently able to shuffle out the Vision GT cars (which are impressive, I admit). But as far as paid DLC goes, or the induction of new manufacturers or current trending cars, we see nothing.
PD's integrity to itself and its employees is truly a double edged sword: we observe moments of brilliance, rays of light flickering in the darkness. And then we have the ominous darkness itself. If PD's integrity remains a double edged sword, I think they'll end up cutting themselves with the sharper edge and bleed out a slow (already having begun, in my opinion) death. *cue dramatic music*
The staff is SO small that PD are only currently able to shuffle out the Vision GT cars (which are impressive, I admit). But as far as paid DLC goes, or the induction of new manufacturers or current trending cars, we see nothing.
PD's integrity to itself and its employees is truly a double edged sword: we observe moments of brilliance, rays of light flickering in the darkness. And then we have the ominous darkness itself. If PD's integrity remains a double edged sword, I think they'll end up cutting themselves with the sharper edge and bleed out a slow (already having begun, in my opinion) death. *cue dramatic music*
Downhill Dino
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Aren't a good portion of them just upscaled Forza 4 models? That's not worth the money.
That's an honest question, I do believe that's how it was for a majority of the Forza DLC packs but feel free to correct me.
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I have no idea nor do I care. If they were upgraded Matchbox models I still wouldn't care. What I care is, how do they look now, do I want to drive them, and how much do they cost? Same goes for GT. I am happier to pay for a superior quality DLC, than to receive average DLC for free. Add in a bunch of GT1-2 iconic cars as premiums to GT6 and I'd be happy to pay for them. Take standards from 5 and 6 and upgrade to premium and I'd pay for them too.
As with everything else, you get what you pay for. Saving pocket change just to get free stuff isn't my idea of good economics nor do I believe it leads to the best game.
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I like the Standard cars. That way I can race the AI "race" cars and make it a challenge. A 450-500PP Standard car is so much fun against the 600-650PP AI cars. It makes tuning them a challenge. I love my matte brown (rusty) '68 Karmann Ghia with white-wall tires. That's the only time the replays are worth watching.
I never forget: It is a just a Video Game. So have fun!
I never forget: It is a just a Video Game. So have fun!
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Yeah, I had no idea what happened to the book either. I was certainly disappointed.Am I the only person that's pissed off for not getting the "Apex 2.0" book?
... went to the shop to pick up my pre-ordered 15 anniversary collector's edition, they gave me the blu-ray box, nothing else. Any way I thought the store girl had made a mistake but she assured me that that was it. She was right, PD had scammed us on day one!
Went online, they had removed everything that mentioned the book. They later said it would be made available to everyone via digital download (which sort of kills one of the major benefits of getting the collector's edition). Any way GFYS PD
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Wasn't there mentioned of some download? Well I've never been formally informed by PD on it. Was too the reason I purchased the collectors edition!
I also don't think we will see paid for DLC - they'll be free. I recall Kaz himself saying free downloadable content will be the way of the future in terms of innovation (can't remember where he stated that, think it may have been the documentary he made?)
Well I think he's right these DLC are all the new greed-rage of game developers these days. Remember about 5 - 10 years ago game developers continually made free updates to extra inclusions for games that were free unless it was a full on expansion pack! I myself believe so called DLC (marketing gimmick/greed generator) should ever be charged for - whoopie do, I pay what $8 for 3 additional cars when the actual game costs $60.
If you lived in Adelaide I would have taking you out to the best restaurant in town
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The Vandura, the XB Falcon, and the F100 were in previous Forza games. The other 7 cars are new to the series.
And to be fair, all 3 returning cars now feature the full ForzaVista treatment, which not all FM5 cars have. In addition, the F100 is sort of a debut, since it was only previously available in the alternate universe of Horizon.
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Excatly. đź‘Ť And it's funny that one person from the status updates said "Oh well at least we get free cars in GT6 and not pay for any that should have been there from the start."... Ugh.
So what exactly is holding you back from experiencing unprecedented next gen game-play and being happy happy happy ?
Got no money for XO or what ?
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I'm saving up money for a XB1, obviously. Didn't had it at the time.
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Man, I'm so wishing I had just held off for the XBone release....
Instead, stupid me went and purchased another PS3 (first one died just prior to GT6 release...), then stupidly/blindly purchased GT6 as well.
Live and learn by your own mistakes they say......
I won't be buying a PS4 solely for GT7. đź‘Ž , nor will I even bother with GT7.
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I know right? I won't be bothering with GT7 either if it doesn't get a major overhaul, which I doubt because standard cars are coming back, making GT7 a GT5.6....Man, I'm so wishing I had just held off for the XBone release....
Instead, stupid me went and purchased another PS3 (first one died just prior to GT6 release...), then stupidly/blindly purchased GT6 as well.
Live and learn by your own mistakes they say......
I won't be buying a PS4 solely for GT7. đź‘Ž , nor will I even bother with GT7.
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About two or three years have passed since I started accepting Gran Turismo wasn't entertaining me anymore. At that time I had rage surges when someone speaked badly about it and would reply them furiously about how bad other games were. Today, there's simply no way to even think about defending or agreeing with PD's decisions anymore, they've turned the "king of the racing genre" into a common and stagnated "don't-wanna-be-game". Now there's simply no way for me to get GT7 over Forza 6. As a car enthusiast, I cannot live without a great racing game on consoles, but being a Playstation "fanboy", it's really gonna hurt to buy a XBONE to play Forza.
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McKiernan
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Buy PCars on PS4 instead, problem solved simples
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If you go XBone, get Forza and PCars and you'll have the best of all worlds. Your soft sim and your hardcore sim, and both will be stunning to look at. PCars has everything anyone ever wanted for GT, but without the car count, and the track library is second to none, it's just stunning. Can't lose!
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Couldn't agree more. GT is dead to me, has been since GT5 (I didn't bother with GT6). I'm hugely excited for PCars, despite not being one to normally get excited by previews of a game yet to be completed (I learned from pre GT5). One of the things that makes me so excited is that in the PCars forum, I see a lot of members of GTplanet who I've seen and respected their reasoned points of views, who have access to WMD and the title, and their assessments of how the title is coming along is very promising indeed. Its not the usual marketing spin, as it is coming from the mouths of other members of this community
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I must admit I had a shred of optimism not too long ago with GT6. I setup my wheel, cracked a beer and decided to check out these new updates for myself.
I didn't even finish my beer before turning off GT out of pure boredom. I finished the intermediate "challenge" on apricot hill and turned it off. In that race I was also rammed by a Lexus from behind on the last lap. Good to see the AI still know you are on the track with them.
Bring on PCars. What a console racing SIM should be.
I didn't even finish my beer before turning off GT out of pure boredom. I finished the intermediate "challenge" on apricot hill and turned it off. In that race I was also rammed by a Lexus from behind on the last lap. Good to see the AI still know you are on the track with them.
Bring on PCars. What a console racing SIM should be.
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