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GTPlanet Exit Poll - Which Presidential Ticket Did You Vote For?

  • Trump/Pence

    Votes: 16 27.1%

  • Biden/Harris

    Votes: 20 33.9%

  • Jorgensen/Cohen

    Votes: 7 11.9%

  • Hawkins/Walker

    Votes: 1 1.7%

  • La Riva/Freeman

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • De La Fuente/Richardson

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Blankenship/Mohr

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Carroll/Patel

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Simmons/Roze

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Charles/Wallace

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Other

    Votes: 15 25.4%
  • Total voters
    59
  • Poll closed .
Liquid
Make Argentina Germanic Again
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Sometimes these people are so stupid I can't tell if they're trolling or not. Why don't they just admit that everything they're doing is straight out of the Nazi playbook? They've gotta be joshing us.
 
Keef
Sometimes these people are so stupid I can't tell if they're trolling or not. Why don't they just admit that everything they're doing is straight out of the Nazi playbook? They've gotta be joshing us.
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Be careful though. "Jewish Space Lasers" reached Argentina in the 1950s and 60s and could probably do so again.
 
State lawmaker pushes removal of Nashville judge over absentee voting ruling

Tennessee Rep. Tim Rudd, R-Murfreesboro, has filed a resolution calling for the legislature to form a committee and remove Davidson County Chancellor Ellen Hobbs Lyle from the bench.

Rudd, who chairs the House subcommittee on elections and campaign finance, said he filed the bill in response to Lyle’s ruling last year that expanded absentee voting — an action he deemed as judicial overreach.

“What Chancellor Lyle did was illegally interfering our election process by trying to suspend state law and implement her own policies, which is blatantly against the law,” he told The Tennessean on Friday.

The judge handled a lawsuit filed last year in Davidson County Chancery Court asking the court to confirm COVID-19 concerns were a valid excuse for not voting in person under existing Tennessee law.

Rudd argues Lyle overstepped her authority in ordering the state to interpret the law that way.

The case, one of a handful filed over the state's by-mail voting policies, pushed the state to confirm that people with special vulnerabilities to COVID-19 could be eligible to vote by mail in both the August primary and the November general election.

Tennessee's elections officials, acting under advice in an order from the attorney general, said early in the year that fear of contracting the virus would not create an eligibility.

Lyle granted a preliminary injunction in June, ruling the state needed to allow people worried about their risk of contracting COVID-19 to vote by mail under the pre-existing framework, kicking off months of back and forth between her and the state over interpreting her order into the wording presented to voters.

When the state updated absentee forms with wording other than what she wrote, to translate the ruling to voters, they said, Lyle shamed the state in open court, threatening the attorneys and election officials with criminal contempt for their actions.

The state appealed her decision as a record number of absentee ballot applications flooded every county. But in arguments before Tennessee's highest court, the state's attorneys changed course and admitted those with underlying conditions were eligible to vote by mail under the "ill or hospitalized" excuse.

In August, partially on the basis of the state's new claims that vulnerable Tennesseans were already able to vote absentee, rendering Lyle's order to allow such a definition redundant, the Tennessee Supreme Court overturned Lyle's injunction. They also ordered the state to continue with that interpretation of the law going forward.

Rudd said Lyle could either declare the existing state elections law unconstitutional or rule to uphold the law. But he said she did neither.

“She can only throw out a law and declare it unconstitutional. She cannot replace it,” he said. “She just superseded state law.”

But judges do have the power to find that a law is being applied unconstitutionally, according to Nashville attorney Daniel Horwitz.

The case asked the court to review both statutory questions regarding absentee ballot eligibility and constitutional questions regarding the burden that in-person voting requirements imposed on the right to vote — given the unexpected circumstances of an ongoing deadly pandemic.

"The claim that Chancellor Lyle violated any law is not a serious one. She adjudicated a legal dispute that was brought to her, which is what judges do," Horwitz said in an emailed comment on the dispute.

When state attorneys changed course on their interpretation of the eligibility requirements in the middle of the legal dispute, he said, they "outright conceded" to a portion of Lyle's ruling.

It was at that point the high court issued an order stating, "We hold that injunctive relief is not necessary with respect to such plaintiffs and persons."

"The Tennessee Supreme Court issued a split decision reversing her ruling on another aspect of the case," he said. "Up until the moment of reversal, Chancellor Lyle's orders were indisputably valid, and the parties in the case were obligated to follow them."

Rudd said he has gathered 64 co-sponsors and expects to bring it to a House vote within the next two weeks. If both legislative chambers vote in favor, an ad hoc joint committee will be formed to discuss Lyle’s removal, he said.

The state constitution allows the removal of judges or state's attorneys "for cause" with a two-thirds majority vote in both houses.

Removing a judge requires having a good reason, University of Memphis Law School professor Steve Mulroy said. Mulroy represented plaintiffs in the suit before Lyle.

"For causes is a term of art, which means misconduct," he said. It doesn't just mean we disagree with one particular decision. It would mean, you know, dereliction of duty or corruption, gross incompetence, a sustained pattern of lawless decision making.

"It doesn't mean we disagree with one decision so you're out. And if, you know, that becomes the new standard then you can you can kiss an independent judiciary goodbye."

Higher courts often overturn lower court rulings. When the Tennessee Supreme Court ruled Lyle's June injunction was unnecessary and vacated it, the case returned to her jurisdiction.

But for a rushed timeline ahead of the November general election, Lyle may have decided to review the case on its merits.

Mulroy said he cannot recall a previous attempt to remove a judge through the General Assembly for a single decision.

Singling out Lyle for her decision is also an unusual step, both attorneys said.

"It is without question limited and very, very infrequently exercised. There is a good reason for that," Horwitz said. "What the General Assembly is attempting to do here is a direct assault on the separation of powers and the independence of Tennessee's judiciary."

He argued using the constitutional provision to remove Lyle because she found a piece of legislation unconstitutional would be an illegal act itself.

Dozens of states revised their voting procedures, including often relaxing eligibility rules on absentee and by-mail balloting, as the pandemic continued throughout the election season. Among them were a flurry of suits filed at the state and federal level aimed at shifting Tennessee law.

"There were all kinds of lawsuits around the time of the pandemic...and hers was not the only decision that changed voting procedures," Mulroy said Friday. "So what Chancellor Lyle did is not some sort of freakish outlier in how judges reacted to the pandemic. Quite the contrary."

The resolution drew criticism from Nashville’s Democratic lawmakers. Senate Minority Leader Jeff Yarbro, D-Nashville, said Rudd’s attempt to remove Lyle is “dangerous.”

“In America, we don’t remove judges based on disagreements with their decisions,” Yarbro said in a Thursday tweet. “This effort is dangerous to the independence of the judiciary and the credibility of the State of Tennessee.”

Sen. Heidi Campbell, D-Nashville, said the resolution would “attack democracy through voter suppression.”

“If the strategy is to attack democracy through voter suppression, this does the trick,” she tweeted Thursday.

Lyle was appointed to the bench in 1996.
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TexRex
State lawmaker pushes removal of Nashville judge over absentee voting ruling
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This type of crap is spreading across the country like a disease. Conservatives in many states are trying to eliminate anything that makes it easier for people to vote and to punish those they think were responsible for allowing it in 2020. It's a trial run for 2022 but their main objective is to ensure a very low turnout for 2024. "If these people aren't going to vote for us, then we can't allow them to vote at all". Classic conservative voter suppression.
 
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Scott Jennings, one of the regular conservative commentators on CNN on the prospects for the GOP with Trump leadership:

"...there was Sen. Ted Cruz at CPAC a couple of days before Trump, trying to excommunicate people he derided as "country club Republicans" -- Republicans who, I guess, Cruz finds distasteful for their incessant golfing and love of private dining. Is he unaware that Trump currently lives at a country club and owns a bunch of them?

"Cruz copied Rep. Jim Jordan with these statements, who the other day declared that the Republican Party no longer tolerates people who drink wine and eat cheese and accepts only those who wear blue jeans and drink beer. How much wine and cheese do you think the good people of Mar-a-Lago consume on a daily basis?"

"As a practical matter, the GOP is currently capable of winning majorities in the 2022 midterms because of geographic, jurisdictional, and redistricting advantages ..."

"But there's no evidence the GOP can win the 2024 presidential campaign unless it embraces a more elastic brand, which welcomes country clubbers, white and blue collar workers, young and old, White and non-White."

"But who can lead the party to that broad coalition? There is direct empirical evidence that putting Trump at the center of our party in 2024 is a probable loser, as Trump twice got a smaller percentage of the vote than Mitt Romney. And that was before the failed insurrection wherein Trump violated his oath of office to preserve, protect and defend the Constitution."

https://www.cnn.com/2021/02/28/opinions/trump-cpac-gop-jennings/index.html
 
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TexRex
Back the blue...

...unless they don't back you.
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That's not the only one. These following videos have violence so don't watch them if you don't want to.

The FBI needs our help identifying these ten terrorists:









 










Fire extinguisher shmire shmeshingshmesher, how about the guy who is trying to taze the cops?
 
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Perhaps the Kraken is hoping Dominion's lawyers will be too busy laughing to concentrate on suing her. What's next? Dinky blood-stained gloves? The Chewbacca Defense?
 
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UKMikey
Perhaps the Kraken is hoping Dominion's lawyers will be too busy laughing to concentrate on suing her. What's next? Dinky blood-stained gloves? The Chewbacca Defense?
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So she's pushing for her own insanity? Sounds like a bold move.
 
I read this particular case in Ohio where Dominion's machines were rejected (after pressure from Trump supporters to not use them) could be used by Dominion's lawyers to prove damages to the company's reputation as a result of Powell and others.
The three person Board of Stark County Commissioners in Ohio rejected the purchase of more than 1,400 new Dominion voting machines. The county's Board of Elections had recommended the purchase, but the three members voted to withhold the money for the purchase following pressure from supporters of former President Trump, who falsely accused the machines of manipulating vote tallies in President Biden's favor.
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https://www.npr.org/2021/03/11/9759...on-voting-systems-after-trump-supporters-balk
 
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I read this particular case in Ohio where Dominion's machines were rejected (after pressure from Trump supporters to not use them) could be used by Dominion's lawyers to prove damages to the company's reputation as a result of Powell and others.


https://www.npr.org/2021/03/11/9759...on-voting-systems-after-trump-supporters-balk
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It's sadly inevitable. Any association with Dominion is easy fodder for the ready-to-believe masses and, through public opinion osmosis, bad for appearances of integrity. Then it'll be the next system and so it will go on and on.
 
Fox News Faces Second Defamation Suit Over Election Coverage
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“The truth matters,” Dominion’s lawyers wrote in Friday’s complaint against Fox. “Lies have consequences. Fox sold a false story of election fraud in order to serve its own commercial purposes, severely injuring Dominion in the process. If this case does not rise to the level of defamation by a broadcaster, then nothing does.”

In a statement on Friday, Fox said its 2020 election coverage “stands in the highest tradition of American journalism” and pledged to “vigorously defend against this baseless lawsuit in court.”
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If a self-proclaimed "entertainment channel" adheres to the "highest tradition of American journalism", then I hesitate to imagine what they'd consider the lowest.
 
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$1,600,000,000.

Do you suppose Fox News is covering it? A shallow dive yields nothing from them, but then it's tough to narrow the search for stories given they are the story.
 
TexRex
$1,600,000,000.

Do you suppose Fox News is covering it? A shallow dive yields nothing from them, but then it's tough to narrow the search for stories given they are the story.
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You're right about the heavily localised one-news-channel embargo on this story but their press statement makes it clear they think or are pretending to think that they are the innocent victim and Dominion’s claims are invalid or even malicious.

No doubt any stories run by the "fair and balanced™" news provider would follow a similar editorial line. (Meanwhile, their competitors seem to be having a field day.)

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If a self-proclaimed "entertainment channel" adheres to the "highest tradition of American journalism", then I hesitate to imagine what they'd consider the lowest.
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If you go to the circus to get your news, don’t be surprised if a clown tells you the news.

Meanwhile in Georgia.



While Kemp was signing new Jim Crow voting laws into effect (under a painting of a plantation for that extra dash of Deep South Racism), this was happening outside:



 

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