The GTP Unofficial 2020 US Elections Thread

[Danoff]

I'm not sure I agree that it's a foregone conclusion that these people will get a pardon as soon as a republican wins the whitehouse. I think, I guess I hope, that what it will take for a republican to win the white house again is a candidate that refuses to condone january 6th.

 

[Blitz24]

I'm not sure I agree that it's a foregone conclusion that these people will get a pardon as soon as a republican wins the whitehouse. I think, I guess I hope, that what it will take for a republican to win the white house again is a candidate that refuses to condone january 6th.

I mean, if they refuse to condone it, doesn't that mean they should step aside and name Trump as their successor since they STILL believe he won in 2020 or will they ignore that too?

 

[Danoff]

I mean, if they refuse to condone it, doesn't that mean they should step aside and name Trump as their successor since they STILL believe he won in 2020 or will they ignore that too?

I think a reckoning is needed within the conservative camp that requires candidates that actually respect the institutions of the US. This means that the party line needs to be that Trump lost and committed crimes deserving of accountability. I think (I hope) that's the only real path forward. So if a republican manages to win the whitehouse, I'm hoping that what was needed to win the electoral vote was to break with Trump entirely.

 

[UKMikey]

I think a reckoning is needed within the conservative camp that requires candidates that actually respect the institutions of the US. This means that the party line needs to be that Trump lost and committed crimes deserving of accountability. I think (I hope) that's the only real path forward. So if a republican manages to win the whitehouse, I'm hoping that what was needed to win the electoral vote was to break with Trump entirely.

Like any politician worth their salt they're probably hungry for more votes and power and the red hatted peanut gallery may be difficult to ignore, especially given the inherent threat of violence if the peanuts don't get their way in everything.

 

[TexRex]

I'm not sure I agree that it's a foregone conclusion that these people will get a pardon as soon as a republican wins the whitehouse. I think, I guess I hope, that what it will take for a republican to win the white house again is a candidate that refuses to condone january 6th.

I appreciate this and I agree, but I should say that I don't think it was intended so much to assert a foregone conclusion as to say that this is what the Republican Party is now, which I absolutely think is accurate.

Anyway Rhodes or any of the other Sixers may end up in the prison infirmary with rectal trauma and not pull through, rendering the whole pardon thing moot, and the world's just gonna keep turning.

 

[UKMikey]

Also:

 

[TexRex]

DC Bar panel recommends Rudy Giuliani be disbarred over 2020 election efforts

The D.C. Board on Professional Responsibility has recommended that Rudy Giuliani be disbarred in the District of Columbia for his efforts to overturn the 2020 election.

abcnews.go.com

SAD!

 

[Jezza819]

Michigan charges 16 fake electors for Donald Trump with election law and forgery felonies

Dana Nessel, a Democrat, announced Tuesday that all 16 individuals would be charged with multiple felony counts, including two counts of forgery.

www.waff.com

 

[TexRex]

lol. lmao, even.

 

[UKMikey]

lol. lmao, even.

Switching one's support to Ron DeSantis is a hell of a drug. LOL at the screenshot filename btw.

 

[UKMikey]

I suspect Julius Fucik's Entry Of The Gladiators should be playing as a soundtrack to this video.

 

[Blitz24]

I suspect Julius Fucik's Entry Of The Gladiators should be playing as a soundtrack to this video.

She's been great at lying... to herself, that is.

 

[UKMikey]

She's been great at lying... to herself, that is.

Regrettably, her gullible fanbase and everyone else are privy to that conversation.

 

[Joey D]

https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/13/politics/coffee-county-georgia-voting-system-breach-trump

That's certainly some strong evidence that shows Trump and/or some people on his team are guilty.

 

[TB]

He's been saying the entire time that there was fraud in the last election. Because he was the one doing it.

 

[UKMikey]

He's been saying the entire time that there was fraud in the last election. Because he was the one doing it.

Every accusation...

Good luck trying to convince his supporters of that, however. I can hear his whiny voice crying "CNN FAKE NEWS!!!" as he waves his tiny hands about.

 

[Joey D]

He's been saying the entire time that there was fraud in the last election. Because he was the one doing it.

 

[Danoff]

Details.

 

[UKMikey]

Details.

I always like this guy. This video is almost too laugh-out-loud-funny and entertaining to be as in-depth, informative and incisive as it is.



Thanks for the share.

 

[Eunos_Cosmo]

I always like this guy. This video is almost too laugh-out-loud-funny and entertaining to be as in-depth, informative and incisive as it is.

View attachment 1280105

Thanks for the share.

His marketing strategy is brilliant, that's for sure.

 

[UKMikey]

His marketing strategy is brilliant, that's for sure.

Seamlessly inserted.

This is probably my favourite comment below one of the related videos:

 

[Joey D]

It's supposedly inaccurate, but Reuters posted the charges:

Georgia court website briefly publishes, removes document about potential Trump charges

The court's website briefly posted a document listing criminal charges against Donald Trump that appeared related to his attempts to overturn his 2020 election defeat in the state, before taking the document down without explanation.

www.reuters.com

The two-page document cites the "Violation Of The Georgia Rico (Racketeer Influenced And Corrupt Organizations) Act," "Solicitation Of Violation Of Oath By Public Officer," "Conspiracy To Commit False Statements and Writings" and "Conspiracy To Commit Forgery in the First Degree," among other charges listed.

 

[Eunos_Cosmo]

In before the "but we were so incompetent that we couldn't actually commit the crime" defense.

 

[UKMikey]

In before the "but we were so incompetent that we couldn't actually commit the crime" defense.

They could plead inanity.

 

[TB]

 

[Joey D]

And the sad part is, this won't even remotely affect his standing in the polls:

National : President: Republican primary : 2024 Polls

The latest political polls and polling averages from FiveThirtyEight.

projects.fivethirtyeight.com

 

[UKMikey]

And the sad part is, this won't even remotely affect his standing in the polls:

It's like a monkey trap. Republicans are too greedy for votes to let go of the nut.



Let's hope the minority in his thrall isn't finessed into a fake majority by their dirty tricks brigade.

 

[Joey D]

Let's hope the minority in his thrall isn't finessed into a fake majority by their dirty tricks brigade.

Unfortunately, it's not looking like that:

Americans are divided along party lines over Trump’s actions in election cases, AP-NORC poll shows

A new poll shows Americans are deeply divided along party lines in their views of President Donald Trump’s actions in the most recent criminal charges brought against him.

apnews.com

 

[UKMikey]

Unfortunately, it's not looking like that:

Americans are divided along party lines over Trump’s actions in election cases, AP-NORC poll shows

A new poll shows Americans are deeply divided along party lines in their views of President Donald Trump’s actions in the most recent criminal charges brought against him.

apnews.com

They may have Republicans believing this is all fake news but it looks like they only represent around a third of the electorate if I'm reading that article correctly. I can't see how they'll get independents on their side but perhaps I'm missing something. No wonder they're hellbent on cheating.

 

[Joey D]

They may have Republicans believing this is all fake news but it looks like they only represent around a third of the electorate if I'm reading that article correctly. I can't see how they'll get independents on their side but perhaps I'm missing something. No wonder they're hellbent on cheating.

Looking at the chart, 23% either think it was unethical, but not illegal, or the he did nothing wrong full stop when looking at Georgia. 34% said they didn't know enough, which seems weird considering it's pretty much plastered everywhere. Also, Trump is on tape doing what they said he did.

What's more worrying is that 38% believe that Trump's role in January 6th was either unethical, but not illegal, or that he did nothing wrong. I don't know how anyone can consider themselves an independent and look at what happened and say "nah Trump's innocent here". He told people to march to the Capital to contest the election results on national TV.

Even then, 48% of all the people surveyed either think Trump's innocent or that they don't know enough about the case. However it breaks down though, there's still a staggering number of people who have bought into Trump's BS even if they aren't a declared Republican, which is why I still think the trials won't hurt Trump's chances at winning the nomination.