The GTP Unofficial 2020 US Elections Thread

[ROAD_DOGG33J]

Anti-corruption and Pro-2A is the exact opposite of Trump. Some of her stances on things make sense, but supporting Trump goes against things she says she supposedly stands for, so really she's probably just another blowhard politician...like all the other politicians out there.

Yeah, I think she needs to fill out her stance/strategy a bit more. She complains about corruption, but says to vote for DJT. For someone that's not a politician, she seems to have jumped into the political swamp pretty quickly. She could be using Trump to boost her campaign, but I'm getting mixed messages here.

 

[McLaren]

Joey wasn't kidding about the lineup for the GOP. 6 of the 12 key speakers are all Trump family members including himself.
https://www.businessinsider.com/don...onvention-report-2020-8?utm_source=reddit.com

According to the report, Trump plans to speak every night of the event because he "wants the opportunity to rebut charges made against him throughout the Democratic program, aides said, particularly on his handling of the coronavirus crisis."

Oh, this ought to be real good.

 

[UKMikey]

Joey wasn't kidding about the lineup for the GOP. 6 of the 12 key speakers are all Trump family members including himself.
https://www.businessinsider.com/don...onvention-report-2020-8?utm_source=reddit.com


Oh, this ought to be real good.

*Dynasty theme plays*

I bet they didn't invite Mary to speak.

 

[Eunos_Cosmo]

They couldn't even get Ben Carson? Rick Perry? Lindsey? The best they could do is Mccarthy? I'll stick by my initial comment.

 

[DesertPenguin]

I thought they'd have Ted Cruz, Lindsay Graham, or Mitch McConnell

 

[Adamgp]

Wish I could find a non sped up version of this. Explains why Biden was able to make it through his 2020 DNC speech, he gave almost the same speech before at the 2008 DNC.

Appears to be wearing the same blue tie as well.

 

[McLaren]

Wish ya'll would find legitimate sources to post from than the repeatedly obvious Twitter users who make their bias well known. Because those last 2 examples:

Our debt to our parents and our grandparents is too great. Our obligation to our children is too sacred. These are extraordinary times; this is an extraordinary election.

Is that the America you want for you, your family, your children?

 

[Swagger897]

Wish ya'll would find legitimate sources to post from than the repeatedly obvious Twitter users who make their bias well known. Because those last 2 examples:

Are we just going to ignore the rest of the clips and straw man our way out of that comparison? They had 8 years together to do it and now he needs another 4 to do the exact same thing?

 

[McLaren]

Are we just going to ignore the rest of the clips and straw man our way out of that comparison? They had 8 years together to do it and now he needs another 4 to do the exact same thing?

The only straw man argument here is that video.

 

[Eunos_Cosmo]

Lara Trump slams DNC's 'sad, dark, depressing depiction of America,' previews RNC

Hard to believe this critique comes from the American Carnage camp...

But for too many of our citizens, a different reality exists: Mothers and children trapped in poverty in our inner cities; rusted-out factories scattered like tombstones across the landscape of our nation; an education system, flush with cash, but which leaves our young and beautiful students deprived of knowledge; and the crime and gangs and drugs that have stolen too many lives and robbed our country of so much unrealized potential.

This American carnage stops right here and stops right now.

 

[McLaren]

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But John McCain doesn't seem to get it. Barack Obama gets it, though. Like many of us in this room, like many of us in this hall, Barack Obama has worked his way up. He is the great American story, you know?

I won’t have to do it alone. Because I will have a great Vice President at my side. Senator Kamala Harris. She is a powerful voice for this nation. Her story is the American story. She knows about all the obstacles thrown in the way of so many in our country. Women, Black women, Black Americans, South Asian Americans, immigrants, the left-out and left-behind.

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That's what you do when you're raised by a single mom who worked, went to school and raised two kids on her own. That's how you come to believe to the very core of your being that work is more than a paycheck. It's dignity. It's respect.

And then he would say: “Joey, a job is about a lot more than a paycheck. It’s about your dignity. It’s about respect. It’s about your place in your community. It’s about looking your kids in the eye and say, honey, it’s going to be okay.”

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My dad, who fell on hard times, always told me, though, "Champ, when you get knocked down, get up. Get up." I was taught that by my dad. And, God, I wish my dad was here tonight.

You know, my Dad was an honorable, decent man.

He got knocked down a few times pretty hard, but always got up.

He worked hard and built a great middle-class life for our family.

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Barack Obama knows that any country that out-teaches us today will out-compete us tomorrow. That's why he'll invest in the next generation of teachers and why he'll make college more affordable. That's the change we need.

With an education system that trains our people for the best jobs of the 21st century, where cost doesn’t prevent young people from going to college, and student debt doesn’t crush them when they get out.

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Barack Obama will transform the economy by making alternative energy a national priority and in the process creating 5 million new jobs and finally, finally freeing us from the grip of foreign oil. That's the change we need.

We can, and we will, deal with climate change. It’s not only a crisis, it’s an enormous opportunity. An opportunity for America to lead the world in clean energy and create millions of new good-paying jobs in the process.

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Barack will put more cops on the street, put security back in Social Security, and he'll never, ever, ever give up until we achieve equal pay for women.

For our seniors, Social Security is a sacred obligation, a sacred promise made. The current president is threatening to break that promise. He’s proposing to eliminate the tax that pays for almost half of Social Security without any way of making up for that lost revenue.

I will not let it happen. If I’m your president, we’re going to protect Social Security and Medicare. You have my word.

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Barack Obama will bring down health care costs by $2,500 for the average family and, at long last, deliver affordable, accessible health care for every American.

With a health care system that lowers premiums, deductibles, and drug prices by building on the Affordable Care Act he’s trying to rip away.

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Barack Obama's going to deliver that change, because, I want to tell you, Barack Obama will reform our tax code. He will cut taxes for 95 percent of the American people who draw a paycheck. That's the change we need.

Because we don’t need a tax code that rewards wealth more than it rewards work. I’m not looking to punish anyone. Far from it. But it’s long past time the wealthiest people and the biggest corporations in this country paid their fair share.

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Folks, remember when the world used to trust us, when they looked to us for leadership? With Barack Obama as our president, they'll look at us again, they'll trust us again, and we'll be able to lead again.

I will be a president who will stand with our allies and friends. I will make it clear to our adversaries the days of cozying up to dictators are over.

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Ladies and gentlemen, in recent years and in recent days, we've once again seen the consequences of the neglect -- of this neglect, with Russia challenging the very freedom of a new democratic country of Georgia. Barack and I will end that neglect. We will hold Russia accountable for its actions, and we will help the people of Georgia rebuild.

Under President Biden, America will not turn a blind eye to Russian bounties on the heads of American soldiers. Nor will I put up with foreign interference in our most sacred democratic exercise – voting.

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The American people are ready. I am ready. Barack is ready. This is his time; this is our time; this is America's time.

The most compelling call for racial justice since the 60’s. And the undeniable realities and accelerating threats of climate change.

So, the question for us is simple: Are we ready?

I believe we are.

We must be.

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Millions of Americans have been knocked down. And this is the time as Americans together we get back up, back up together.

With passion and purpose, let us begin – you and I together, one nation, under God – united in our love for America and united in our love for each other.

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The American people are ready. I am ready. Barack is ready. This is his time; this is our time; this is America's time.

The Irish poet Seamus Heaney once wrote:

“History says,

Don’t hope on this side of the grave,

But then, once in a lifetime

The longed-for tidal wave

Of justice can rise up,

And hope and history rhyme”

This is our moment to make hope and history rhyme.

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And, folks, these are not isolated discussions among families down on their luck. These are common stories among middle-class people who worked hard their whole life, played by the rules, on the promise that their tomorrows would be better than their yesterdays.

That promise is the promise of America. It defines who we are as a people. And now it's in jeopardy. I know it. You know it.

All elections are important. But we know in our bones this one is more consequential.

America is at an inflection point. A time of real peril, but of extraordinary possibilities.

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Our debt to our parents and our grandparents is too great. Our obligation to our children is too sacred. These are extraordinary times; this is an extraordinary election.

No generation ever knows what history will ask of it. All we can ever know is whether we’ll be ready when that moment arrives.

And now history has delivered us to one of the most difficult moments America has ever faced.

Four historic crises. All at the same time. A perfect storm.

16.

Should Mom move in with us now that Dad's gone? Fifty, sixty, seventy dollars just to fill up the gas tank? How in God's name, with winter coming, how are we going to heat the home? Another year, no raise. Did you hear they may be cutting our health care at the company? Now we owe more money on our home than our home is worth. How in God's name are we going to send the kids to college? How are we going to retire, Joe?

You know, folks, that's the America that George Bush has left us. And that's the America we'll continue to get if George -- excuse me, if John McCain is elected president of the United States of America. Freudian slip. Freudian slip.

Thank you, Mr. President. You were a great president. A president our children could – and did – look up to.

No one will say that about the current occupant of the office.

What we know about this president is if he’s given four more years he will be what he’s been the last four years.

A president who takes no responsibility, refuses to lead, blames others, cozies up to dictators, and fans the flames of hate and division.

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Our debt to our parents and our grandparents is too great. Our obligation to our children is too sacred. These are extraordinary times; this is an extraordinary election.

Is that the America you want for you, your family, your children?

Take your "straw man" argument & stick it up Trump's ass. Context clearly doesn't matter, only trigger words b/c some people are truly as gullible to the point using the words "time" & "rhyme" must be the same phrase.

 

[UKMikey]

Lara Trump slams DNC's 'sad, dark, depressing depiction of America,' previews RNC

Hard to believe this critique comes from the American Carnage camp...

"Ours will be a convention of and for the American people. So you'll hear stories from people this coming week, many of whom did not vote for Donald Trump in 2016, who are now voting for him because they have felt the positive impact of Donald Trump as our president," Trump said. "We'll have people who have lived through socialism and are going to warn against the Democrats, because, as we well know, this is the most far-left, radical, socialist ticket in the history of American politics with Joe Biden and Kamala Harris now."

 

[DesertPenguin]

Nothing has changed. In the past if you didn't like someone you said they were a communist. Now you say socialist. All that's changed is the word.

 

[Swagger897]

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Take your "straw man" argument & stick it up Trump's ass. Context clearly doesn't matter, only trigger words b/c some people are truly as gullible to the point using the words "time" & "rhyme" must be the same phrase.

Are you quoting off of the comparison clip and just cherry picking still? Your ignorance is astounding if so and it's obvious because you failed to quote the first one...

I couldn't be bothered myself to go through and type out each and every one of them back-to-back because I don't shill for Biden or Trump, D or R, or anything in-between. The principle is what matters regardless of age, race, or sex and if they share the same as I why wouldn't I vote for them?

 

[McLaren]

Are you quoting off of the comparison clip and just cherry picking still?

Are you blind? I shared the entire quote of each clip that video played. If anyone was cherry picking, it was a video using 2 Biden quotes about Russia as being the same, when one is talking about Georgia & one is talking about the Russian hits ordered.

Your ignorance is astounding if so and it's obvious because you failed to quote the first one...

You are blind. The very first clipped phrase is about Barack being an American story. Re-read my post.

But John McCain doesn't seem to get it. Barack Obama gets it, though. Like many of us in this room, like many of us in this hall, Barack Obama has worked his way up. He is the great American story, you know?

I couldn't be bothered myself to go through and type out each and every one of them back-to-back because I don't shill for Biden or Trump, D or R, or anything in-between.

Nah, you couldn't be bothered because you are the ignorant, clear-as-day Republican defender you repeatedly showcase yourself as.

 

[Eunos_Cosmo]

Wish I could find a non sped up version of this. Explains why Biden was able to make it through his 2020 DNC speech, he gave almost the same speech before at the 2008 DNC.

Appears to be wearing the same blue tie as well.

I watched this. Made me think of this

That twitter user has a very loose understanding of the word exact. When I watch, it's plain to me that he is using recycled themes...but come on, it's a political speech, and a personal one at that. Did you expect him to say something wildly different about his father? Donald Trump can't even finish a sentence without getting lost in some irrelevant, meandering nonsense about how much of a victim he is. It's borderline absurd, to me, to see Trump surrogates criticize other people's speeches without any apparent irony. The straw grasping is a clear as day acknowledgement that Biden gave a compelling speech, otherwise they would be assailing it's content. (See: Strawman)

Yeah, definitely the same blue tie. I guess Donald Trump only has 1 tie also.

 

[UKMikey]

Yeah, definitely the same blue tie. I guess Donald Trump only has 1 tie also.

At least he wasn't wearing a tan suit.

 

[Eunos_Cosmo]

At least he wasn't wearing a tan suit.

Also known as The Day the Earth Stood Still

 

[Chrunch Houston]

I guess Donald Trump only has 1 tie also.

You're thinking of the wrong billionaire.

 

[Eunos_Cosmo]

You're thinking of the wrong billionaire.

This is a good tie.

 

[huskeR32]

When I watch, it's plain to me that he is using recycled themes

Which is what happens when a party doesn't completely abandon its platform and principles in the space of four years. Perhaps Republicans have forgotten what that's like?

 

[mustafur]

Really surprised they couldn't purchase Ideolog for hire Candice Owens to the GoP Convention.

 

[Chrunch Houston]

If Biden hadn't been outed as a plagiarist so many times in the past, this would not even be an issue. I don't think it is possible to plagiarize yourself.

 

[Liquid]

What's wrong with repeating yourself if it is what you believe to be the right things to say?

I'm sure all great civil rights activists repeated themselves at one time or another. Change the record, puh-lease.

Recycling similar themes with new context and nuances is a weird thing to take umbridge with. It's better than lying each time you're in front of a different audience.

 

[jjaisli]

Joey wasn't kidding about the lineup for the GOP. 6 of the 12 key speakers are all Trump family members including himself.
https://www.businessinsider.com/don...onvention-report-2020-8?utm_source=reddit.com


Oh, this ought to be real good.

What I also find somewhat telling is the lack of any health processionals or any member of his Coronavirus taskforce (unless you include Pence). We're in the middle of a Pandemic, a disease which has killed more than 175,000 Americans in less than 6 months and it's is only growing worse and it's a situation for which the President has been heavily criticized, even by members of his own party for lack of leadership. So I guess instead of confronting it, the strategy will be to, what, deny it? Pretend it doesn't exist. Or claim we've 'beaten it'? But it doesn't look like there will be any experts up there to talk about it or squirm uncomfortably while he makes false claims. If he even brings it up at all.

But I'm guessing the Donald is pleased with this line up. He finally got what he really wanted, his own reality TV show playing out on the world stage where he really calls out all the shots.

 

[TheCracker]

But I'm guessing the Donald is pleased with this line up. He finally got what he really wanted, his own reality TV show playing out on the world stage where he really calls out all the shots.

Pretty sure he's using the The Osbournes as a reference.

 

[ROAD_DOGG33J]

While there may not be any health professionals, we get the McCloskeys. I'm sure we'll find out how important it is to be able to walk around freely pointing guns at other people.

I think they're on today.

edit: Here's the list of speakers:


Ben Carson and some of the others are on there.

 

[DesertPenguin]

The Honorable Ivanka Trump? The Honorable Mike Pompeo? What grants these people any special title other than "they want to feel big and strong"?

 

[UKMikey]

The Honorable Ivanka Trump? The Honorable Mike Pompeo? What grants these people any special title other than "they want to feel big and strong"?

I don't know whether Ivanka has been confirmed by the Senate or not.

 

[Joey D]

Dana White? Like UFC President Dana White?

Also, I can't wait to see the rambling of crazy man Giuliani.