The Homosexuality Discussion Thread

[niky]

You made a conscious decision to be heterosexual, and you should celebrate it.

Do you honestly believe that?

I mean, do you stay up nights dreaming of Brad Pitt's exquisitely shaped buittocks?

If girls get you up, girls get you up.

If boys get you up, boys get you up.

If you can get it up for either, then you can choose.

But for the vast majority of us, there is no choice. Except for homosexuals who, for one reason or another, feel the need to lie about their sexuality and pretend to be straight.

Being gay in the wrong profession can get you fired, or abused.

Being gay in the wrong school can land you in the hospital.

Being gay in the wrong neighborhood can get you dead.

Despite appearances in media, "gay" isn't quite mainstream. Gays are still at where women's rights were in the 70's... we agree they have rights, but the idea of them having equal rights or standing to straight people hasn't sunk in, yet.

Hell... the same thing can be said of women in many professions. The main reason we left New York all those years ago is that vertical progression for women professionals, even in a place as hip as NY, was extremely limited at the time.

 

[arora]

Do you honestly believe that?

He was joking.

 

[NissanSkylineN1]

Not to mention the things it keeps simple often explode dramatically when someone in the family questions the conservative views. Which I see happen fairly often in religious families when their kids don't agree on the typically homophobic attitudes their parents hold.

That depends. That depends on your family and what kind of person they are. For example, my parents don't mind me questioning family values whatsoever, as they usually explain to me why we believe in something that may be questioned by others. Provide good reasoning, and they'll change their point of view on something.

And by the way, that picture cracked me up

 

[niky]

He was joking.

My sarcasm-meter batteries are out. Probably swapped them around with the ones in the gay-dar.

 

[Liquid]

gay-dar.

Gaydar.

Now there's an interesting topic.

Just how does it work?

 

[RCKakashi14]

Homosexuals are as human as you and me. Being one does not make them less of a person. I respect them as much as everybody else.

Those who judge them are narrow-minded. Period.

 

[counter345]

Whether it's a choice or not, as far as I'm concerned, is irrelevant when it comes to acceptance.

People should be respected for the choices they make if they do no harm, like you would respect someone's religion.

If it isn't a choice, it's fairly self-explanatory.

 

[Daniel]

Gaydar.

Now there's an interesting topic.

Just how does it work?

All I know is, my one's incredibly off. I swore that one of my friends were closeted until he says he's against gay marriage while we were in a group discussion .

 

[Danny]

Bobo (I'm sure you'll read this since you can't seem to stay away from this thread despite countless bans. Methinks the lady doth protest too much):

I'm honored you feel the need to spend so much time discussing me. It's particularly heartfelt since you have so much free time. And thanks for the frankly stellar visitor message that you've taken the time to write. Even politely beginning by asking me to read it, just in case I'd come to the conclusion that you are irrelevant. It was kind of you to also link me to more of your failed accounts.

Top bloke. 👍

Nowgrowuppls.

 

[Dennisch]

I think Bobo himself is in the closet. So deep.

 

[Liquid]

So repressed.

 

[Danny]

I think Bobo himself is in the closet. So deep.

He's pretty much in Narnia.

 

[PeterJB]

All I know is, my one's incredibly off. I swore that one of my friends were closeted until he says he's against gay marriage while we were in a group discussion .

Mine is average. With guys who aren't obvious about it they just have a 'quality' that you notice. This 'quality' is someone which is impossible to define but is intuitively known and understood by us.

 

[KTalloutdrags]

i have no problem with homosexuals what so ever. having a homosexual sister who i love so dearly, i can say they are normal people, yet normally have outstanding qualities. i will however start off by saying i am not a homosexual, but as i said, i have no issue with them. my sister being homosexual,i talk her girlfriend, and many of her gay guy and girl friends. i will say, she is so proud of being gay too. my sister being 10 years older than my self, i have learned much from her. she has taught me right and wrong well, and its always fun talking about girls with her . she can be the tough "big brother" figure when needed or the "loving sister". and her friends, lmao funnest people on earth. being homosexual for what ever reason i dont know, but they are just such fun happy people!

and about the "gaydar", its quite odd. my sister could tell if someones gay by talking to the for a few minutes normally. i can too growing up around a fair amount of homosexuals.

in the end, they just as happy and normal as the rest of us with a unique quality.

 

[FoolKiller]

All I know is, my one's incredibly off. I swore that one of my friends were closeted until he says he's against gay marriage while we were in a group discussion .

Me thinks he protests too much. Kind of like some of the most anti-gay politicians in the US.

 

[Johnnypenso]

All I know is, my one's incredibly off. I swore that one of my friends were closeted until he says he's against gay marriage while we were in a group discussion .

If he was in the closet, isn't that exactly what he'd say in a group discussion? That's kind of the point of being in the closet, avoid anything that might make you look gay, for example, agreeing with gay marriage.

 

[Daniel]

Me thinks he protests too much. Kind of like some of the most anti-gay politicians in the US.

It was only a short discussion before we moved onto something else, and it wasn't a huge protest. He just said he didn't support it.

If he was in the closet, isn't that exactly what he'd say in a group discussion? That's kind of the point of being in the closet, avoid anything that might make you look gay, for example, agreeing with gay marriage.

Like I said, he's not strongly against it, he just doesn't support it. If he was in complete denial or something then I'd suspect something 👍

 

[Minty]

I'd think more closeted guys would just say they didn't support it without really launching into a rant. If he's being smart about keeping it hidden he might know how to play it down. I know I was quick as hell to determine how other people would take my answers whenever I was talking about it, and the only person to catch on that I was probably gay was my mom.

Intolerance of the stuff is never a sure sign someone's gay, but just because he didn't launch into a massive rant doesn't really mean he isn't.

 

[niky]

You can't be gay! You're a Brony! Being gay would make you a... Gony?

Seriously though, stereotypes are really misleading. One of my (many) gay cousins is a big Geek. Had a big GI Joe and Transformers collection when we were kids and he's part of our local Nerd Herd.

 

[SagarisGTB]

The only problem that needs to be cured is homophobia and intolerance. But luckily, even in my short lifetime, strides have been made in terms of both rights and public tolerance. Far more needs to be done, but at the very least large portions of the truly secular world are moving in the right direction.

 

[PeterJB]

It was only a short discussion before we moved onto something else, and it wasn't a huge protest. He just said he didn't support it.
Like I said, he's not strongly against it, he just doesn't support it. If he was in complete denial or something then I'd suspect something 👍

You do get the odd gay guy here and there that opposes it. They like having civil partnerships all to themselves, but it's quite rare.

 

[Johnnypenso]

I'd think more closeted guys would just say they didn't support it without really launching into a rant. If he's being smart about keeping it hidden he might know how to play it down. I know I was quick as hell to determine how other people would take my answers whenever I was talking about it, and the only person to catch on that I was probably gay was my mom.

Intolerance of the stuff is never a sure sign someone's gay, but just because he didn't launch into a massive rant doesn't really mean he isn't.

Of course intolerance is not a sure sign of anything, in fact, it's more likely a sign of homophobia than anything else. But I do have some experience with men in the closet and more than a few of them were quite vehement in their opinions regarding homosexuality, thinking it made them not look gay. Others never said a word one way or the other. Not everyone is "smart" about keeping it hidden and it was a much bigger issue back in the day.

 

[Gonales]

Just shows that some people actually do care.

 

[Famine]

And that it was a hidden camera show where the waitress and the gay couples (and kids) were actors.

It also shows the power of free speech - and the fact that the opportunity to speak your mind is not a guarantee of freedom of consequence of doing so, as the waitress loses her employer money and would (were she not an actress) be fired.

It also shows the dangers of limiting it, as the guy in the pink shirt who high fives the waitress is clearly homophobic and afraid of expressing it when pinned down by reporters - he harbours ignorant resentment because he feels marginalised and unable to express his resentment, limiting himself from learning why his resentment is ignorant. Forceable repression of opinion does that, creating cesspools of stupidity.

 

[Ranman20]

Did you guys hear about the kid(6 year old I believe) who dresses like a girl and has his hair like a girl. It was on the news a couple weeks back. Do you guys think his parents did it to him. Or his owns actions? I'm chill now. I am not the old guy who would lash out on this thread awhile back.

And I just had a deep thought moment

What if parents have kids for experiments. I know it sounds psycho but anything is possible. What if parents have boys to test to see them turn gay. Say where-ever the area the parents live in and say that area hasn't passed gay marriage. And say in that particular area people dislike gay people. And say the parents feel that's not fair. But here is the twist or whatever way you want to twist it. What happens if they have a boy and they dress him in girl clothes. Just for the attention and in their minds they think everybody has their free rights.

Just my thought. I'm not here for arguing anymore just logics. I have many thoughts for the above. I could had thought of alternate thought but I go with plan A.

 

[Famine]

I don't follow - what are you asking?

Are you asking if it's okay for parents to try and bring their boy up as a girl to make him gay? If you are, you don't really understand what being gay actually is.

 

[Scaff]

Did you guys hear about the kid(6 year old I believe) who dresses like a girl and has his hair like a girl. It was on the news a couple weeks back. Do you guys think his parents did it to him. Or his owns actions? I'm chill now. I am not the old guy who would lash out on this thread awhile back.

And I just had a deep thought moment

What if parents have kids for experiments. I know it sounds psycho but anything is possible. What if parents have boys to test to see them turn gay. Say where-ever the area the parents live in and say that area hasn't passed gay marriage. And say in that particular area people dislike gay people. And say the parents feel that's not fair. But here is the twist or whatever way you want to twist it. What happens if they have a boy and they dress him in girl clothes. Just for the attention and in their minds they think everybody has their free rights.

Just my thought. I'm not here for arguing anymore just logics. I have many thoughts for the above. I could had thought of alternate thought but I go with plan A.

No that's not a deep thought. Its a rambling pile of nonsense.

 

[Ranman20]

I don't follow - what are you asking?

Are you asking if it's okay for parents to try and bring their boy up as a girl to make him gay? If you are, you don't really understand what being gay actually is.

No not asking that. I'm saying are parents forcing their kids to be gay at a young age. Honestly when I think of what I said, I'm like what am I saying. But some gay person told me when he was a kid he liked to be the pink ranger and kids were alright with that. But now he says everybody is against him. Do you think kids were his influence to be gay? See my main point is when kids are born and when they grow up at about 6 do they say ok I wanna be a girl. Like the people who become gay later in life. I know some people say being gay isn't a choice. But I heard of people growing up strait and then want to be gay later.

 

[Danny]

No not asking that. I'm saying are parents forcing their kids to be gay at a young age.

No.

Honestly when I think of what I said, I'm like what am I saying.

Yes.

But some gay person told me when he was a kid he liked to be the pink ranger and kids were alright with that.

So he made the conscious decision that he wanted to be the Pink Ranger.

But now he says everybody is against him.

Maybe that's because people say things like

Your making satan happy. All the people who become gay/ are gay.

Do you think kids were his influence to be gay?

I'd say considering it's not a choice, probably not.

See my main point is when kids are born and when they grow up at about 6 do they say ok I wanna be a girl.

Be under no illusion. Gay ≠ Transgendered.

Like the people who become gay later in life.

Again with it not being a conscious decision, it's about realising what these unfamiliar feelings are and acting on it, not choosing. Or alternatively, lying. Some people do that.

I know some people say being gay isn't a choice.

Yes, some people do say that. Gay people, for instance.

But I heard of people growing up strait and then want to be gay later.

At the risk of repeating myself...

 

[Famine]

No not asking that. I'm saying are parents forcing their kids to be gay at a young age.

Then you don't know what being gay is.

Do you think kids were his influence to be gay? See my main point is when kids are born and when they grow up at about 6 do they say ok I wanna be a girl. Like the people who become gay later in life. I know some people say being gay isn't a choice. But I heard of people growing up strait and then want to be gay later.

Being gay is not the same thing as being (for boys) girly.