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- N24_VANTAGE
Tried this today in the McLaren... usually my go to. Lost loads of time in S1 for some reason, just doesn't have any front end on it... bags of understeer which is not ideal. Anyway, finished 5th...
The Human Comedy 8 - Gr.3 Lake Maggiore
- Thread starter breeminator
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- 138
- Germany
I know, i know!
Had the same issue with the WTC 900 in Suzuka. First run i was way to slow, made lots of mistakes and finished only 6th. Two races later it somehow "clicked" and i won easy with the same car!
But at Lago Maggiore the way the BMW passed me was quite shocking! Outbreaked me in turn 1 and then pulled away so fast. Didn't had much hope to match that pace with the RSR. I think i'll do some timed laps for getting used to the track with the RSR as preparation.
- 26
- United Kingdom
After many failed attempts, and a lot of practise I managed to get 1st place today. I tried many cars, BMW Endurance, Merc AMG, Aston Martin, but felt best with a good tune on my Porsche 991 RSR.
I think the tune was from this forum, I just made it slightly softer on the front and took some rear downforce off. This helped keep the car turning on the first stint between laps 7-10, which are the most tricky to keep fast without mistakes.
And to stay consistant and preserve tyres more, use TC1.
I managed to do mostly 1.57.xx and some 1.56/57/58/59 laps. I pitted L10 and L20 for 78% fuel each time. RM tyres.
I won by about 14 seconds from N Rubilar.
I was slower in the first stint, because you have extra fuel compared to stint 2 and 3. At my first pit stop, I was 2nd place with the AI about 4sec ahead. But after my pit stop, and some laps later, I found myself in P1, and from there I led to the end.
So make sure you aren’t over pushing in the first stint, you should be faster later. If you can get a 1.57 in the first stint, you should dip into 1.56 on the later stints and take the win.
I think the tune was from this forum, I just made it slightly softer on the front and took some rear downforce off. This helped keep the car turning on the first stint between laps 7-10, which are the most tricky to keep fast without mistakes.
And to stay consistant and preserve tyres more, use TC1.
I managed to do mostly 1.57.xx and some 1.56/57/58/59 laps. I pitted L10 and L20 for 78% fuel each time. RM tyres.
I won by about 14 seconds from N Rubilar.
I was slower in the first stint, because you have extra fuel compared to stint 2 and 3. At my first pit stop, I was 2nd place with the AI about 4sec ahead. But after my pit stop, and some laps later, I found myself in P1, and from there I led to the end.
So make sure you aren’t over pushing in the first stint, you should be faster later. If you can get a 1.57 in the first stint, you should dip into 1.56 on the later stints and take the win.
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- Fezzik-GT
- Fezzik1983
Yes this is currently affected by the settings glitch. When you enter the event it reverts your car to the BoP but you can access detailed settings. Initially everything is still locked but by exiting and reentering the screen you can unlock suspension, diff and downforce adjustments.
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- Germany
Honestly I think the current situation should be the "normal" one.
Some cars have a default setup that compared to others is outright unstable.
But also in my opinion it shouldnt be that free, just a 3 step slider for "grip" "speed" "compromise" for the aero in which case PD would have all tools to make these settings comparatively the same, while allowing each driver to select the option that is either better suited to each individually as a player or the track.
Im not so sure about that though.
I guess it is easier, when you have found the exact sweet spot for the car of speed and traction (that is more speed than it has, but without losing too much of its traction).
Currently not having enough time to put my "thesis" to the test.
Yet I think the BRZ with lower general aero settings will be a monster on this track.
Or the Audis with a tad higher back aero setting.
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- United Kingdom
- 2,296
- Germany
Missions are not supposed to be affected by the difficulty setting, and though there are players saying they are actually reversed (easy= difficult, hard = easy) I cant be convinced by this after having done human comedy for many hundred times.
AI times simply are not consistenst enough to really conclude any total time difference as part of a difficulty bug.
- 2,296
- Germany
I dont understand what you are trying to point out with 4 races?
Over the course of ~40 races I did during patch 1.31
AI fastest lap 1:56,917 with a total race time of 1:00:52,653
AI slowest alp1:57,784 with a total race time of 1:01:07,193
This is 0.8second per lap for the fastest time, the difference of them finishing is only 14.5seconds
If the AI was consistent the faster one should have finished 24seconds faster.
Also just saying wind direction plays a huge factor.
Good wind makes me run 1:56,3**, bad wind slowes me by ~0,5seconds
Factoring in total time independent on the fastest AI lap, it gets spred even further.
AI slowest total time was 1:01:19,383
AI fastest total time was 1:00:40,221
that is 39seconds, or 1.3seconds per lap diffence
Or having a look at Tokyo WTC600
AI finishes with 27m + xs (where x is one of the following) over the course of 156 recorded races (but in this the difficulty is not known)
05 - 1
10 - 2
12 - 2
15 - 2
16 - 1
17 - 1
18 - 2
19 - 2
20 - 4
21 - 4
22 - 1
23 - 2
24 - 2
25 - 7
26 - 4
27 - 9
28 - 8
29 - 5
30 - 4
31 - 9
32 - 6
33 - 12
34 - 5
35 - 8
36 - 8
37 - 5
38 - 6
39 - 7
40 - 4
41 - 3
42 - 2
43 - 3
46 - 2
48 - 1
49 - 1
53 - 1
that is 48seconds over 12 laps, or 4 seconds per lap
- 26
- Canada
Due to glitch ( now ypu can tune suspension and aero) i believe this would be the best time for me complete this challenge. Anyone have a suggestion for a car and tune?
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- United Kingdom
I just entered my 991, restarted, went to setup and put the setup from here:
www.gtplanet.net
I did L2:1.57, L3:1.56, pretty easily, but I’ve now practised over 100laps and my lines are pretty optimised.
PRAIANO'S TUNES : SETTINGS FOR GT7
Curious if you somehow managed to fine tune GR3 911? Any tips appreciated, can buy cofee donate or smtg. Coming back to racing games with competitive mindset and GT is so far great! Even tho very few tracks/layouts for this AAA game?
www.gtplanet.net
I did L2:1.57, L3:1.56, pretty easily, but I’ve now practised over 100laps and my lines are pretty optimised.
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- Canada
Thanks for suggesting. Tried the mazda with piano's tune, won with 5 seconds lead.I just entered my 991, restarted, went to setup and put the setup from here:
PRAIANO'S TUNES : SETTINGS FOR GT7
Curious if you somehow managed to fine tune GR3 911? Any tips appreciated, can buy cofee donate or smtg. Coming back to racing games with competitive mindset and GT is so far great! Even tho very few tracks/layouts for this AAA game?
I did L2:1.57, L3:1.56, pretty easily, but I’ve now practised over 100laps and my lines are pretty optimised.
- 912
- United States
Tried three different cars today with various tunes on them. I was consistently getting spun out by the idiot AI cars and no amount of grip would stop it. I also noticed that around lap five or so several of them would just flat take off.
There has got to be a way to get custom parts on the car here and just absolutely dust the AI. That's the only way to win because if you're racing them in a pack, they WILL punt you off the track.
By the way I'm no beginner here either with over a thousand hours each on several racing games, GT7 included.
My lap times are dropping into the 1:59's even on hard tires, which with a single pit stop should be more than fast enough to edge out a win in this race, but due to careless AI, it isn't.
The AI here just flat cheats.
There has got to be a way to get custom parts on the car here and just absolutely dust the AI. That's the only way to win because if you're racing them in a pack, they WILL punt you off the track.
By the way I'm no beginner here either with over a thousand hours each on several racing games, GT7 included.
My lap times are dropping into the 1:59's even on hard tires, which with a single pit stop should be more than fast enough to edge out a win in this race, but due to careless AI, it isn't.
The AI here just flat cheats.
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- 2,296
- Germany
Thats no point of quality if you cant beat this event.
This mornings victory with a BOP Subaru BRZ (not tuning glitched) before coffee in pictures, just because!
Results:
Lap 5: already won at this point
Lap 17: after every AI pitted once
End of Lap 20: leaving pit for second time
Catching a +1.5s penalty
Self inflicted +8s spin because Im not an early bird and still needed 2more hours of sleep
Not difficult, not challenging, same story as always.
- 912
- United States
Maybe so but the 1:59 lap times and single stop strategy should still be enough to either win or at least get silver. Those are my times and strategy and I'm not even close. I'm getting knocked around by AI like a cue ball.
This last update unlocked a little tuning, which is my strong suit. I'm a better technician than I am a driver, but I have to be able to drive decent to test what I've built or tuned. Having tuning enabled made a five second difference, just long enough for me to cross the line after lap 29.
Just because people are winning this race doesn't mean the AI doesn't cheat. If I'd saved my replays you'd see that it does. If I could move out of the pack it wouldn't matter, and that's how I've won every other race in the game even on the highest difficulty.
Difficult is good until it becomes aggravating, then it's too much. Cheating should never be a part of it, either.
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- Germany
It doesnt, it is not faster than players.
It just drives better than in other races.
And on RH its not any different in total:
End of Lap 11: fastest AI pits, victory assured
Beginning of Lap 16: all AI in front still need to pit (again)
Beginning Lap 23: fastest AI pits again
Also, tuning is not enabled but glitched.
This event is supposed to be driven with a car untuned, and its absolutely doable.
Just practice, or dont.
My first attempt on this track was a similar experience, finishing on P14 I was "wtf, this is not possible, I cant be that bad, there is something wrong!", and now coming back every once in a while I cant comprehend how to not win.
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Wise up, this race is what it is, it's the same for everyone. If you didn't win, you weren't quick enough, so practice until you are. And maybe channel this 'technical' ability of yours into great tactics such as avoiding the AI drivers: you know what they're like, anticipate it.
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- Croydon L,A
- Kenno205GTi6
On the 3rd attempt today I did it! it has been the only one left to do. Have tried many times before over the last few years but has not really bothered me. Nice to get done & dusted. Good luck to all that are struggling, just keep on Trying & i will fall into place.
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