The new GT5 DLC just fails to deliver

[finnracer]

This.

As has been said previously also, when we dont get DLC, there's complaining, when we do get DLC, there's complaining. Beginning to wonder why, with all this complaining, PD bother any more. If people cant be happy with what they do get, why bother getting anything at all..

This^

 

[ch3ng]

This.

As has been said previously also, when we dont get DLC, there's complaining, when we do get DLC, there's complaining. Beginning to wonder why, with all this complaining, PD bother any more. If people cant be happy with what they do get, why bother getting anything at all..

Because the people or fans want GT getting better and better.

Why Complain about the AI? Why complain about the sound? Why Complain about...?

Some Complain because they want PD to know that things Must and can improve.

If Nobody complains PD will not know what they can improve or what the Fans want.
And Sony will Charge more and more Money for the DLC. They are a company.

Next Time 7$ for 2 tracks?

 

[Nismo34]

Because the people or fans want GT getting better and better.

Why Complain about the AI? Why complain about the sound? Why Complain about...?

But why complain about getting something that we were complaining about not getting? Just seems pointless. If we cant be happy with PD giving us DLC, then why should they keep giving us DLC at all?

 

[ch3ng]

But why complain about getting something that we were complaining about not getting? Just seems pointless. If we cant be happy with PD giving us DLC, then why should they keep giving us DLC at all?

You know i don't complain about the DLC, because i know that not everybody will like the value the DLC offers.
But this is a Forum and we should accept that everyone has her/her own opinion.

constructive criticism makes a Game better.

 

[thelvynau]

You know i don't complain about the DLC, because i know that not everybody will like the value the DLC has.
But this is a Forum and we should accept that everyone has her/her own opinion.

See I'm not complaining about the dlc per se more the way that it was marked up in Australia after seeing videos of the track I would buy it if it was 5 bucks here.

 

[Samus]

But why complain about getting something that we were complaining about not getting? Just seems pointless. If we cant be happy with PD giving us DLC, then why should they keep giving us DLC at all?

Again, just because people want DLC of some sort it doesn't mean they have to be happy with the specific DLC they are given. Nobody was complaining about a lack of Motegi and a Scion.

 

[Lewis_Hamilton_]

If people are happy to pay that amount for one track, good for them, and I mean that genuinely.

However, I don't feel that such a long break between this and the last DLC, and also considering that each DLC is getting smaller and more expensive, I don't personally consider that as good value for money.

I understand that the whole PD team work incredily hard, but there's also no denying that things have been horribly disorganized at PD too, over the past few years especially. For the first time ever, I am beginning to consider Forza as being better than GT, mostly in regards to the extra content that is available (much much bigger DLC packs), as well as what the game already shipped with (car customization etc).

I have been feeling for a while now that the ball has been dropped. I will still buy the Motegi circuit as I want to race on it, but I'm not exactly buzzed about the price or the fact that's all we're getting after this long of a wait. I can't really count the GT Academy cars as new vehicles either, as they're pretty much already available in the game minus the sticker on the door.

Here's hoping to a surprise DLC or download of some sort in the near future, or announcement on the progress with GT6.

And the comments telling people to get a job is plain rude and ignorant. For one, unemployment is very high and not due to the everyday guy's fault. Secondly, and in my case, just because I have a job, it doesn't mean that I should go ahead and spend my money without regard. All people should appreciate value for money, no matter how rich or poor you are. If like the guy above said, you're happy to spend 100 dollars/quid/euros on a bottle of beer just because you can, then more fool you.

Also, telling people they are wrong for being upset with the DLC for expecting too much, like simonk said, what's is actually wrong with not being particularly happy with what's offered? If I sat in a restaurant and the waiter said I would receive a tasty filling meal in half an hours time, and previously paid 10 dollars/euros for it, then I'm sure you'd be a little unhappy if the meal actually took 2 hours to arrive, was nothing more than a basic microwave meal (no weather or time change) and then asked 20 dollars/euros for it.

 

[analog]

If we cant be happy with PD giving us DLC, then why should they keep giving us DLC at all?

Why? Short answer below.

I don't know whether Twin Ring Motegi is just a port (upgraded or not) or newly modelled again (I hear conflicting info on this forum and haven't yet bought it myself) but if it's just a port I can understand people questioning it costing as much as it does, it's perhaps not the amount of money itself (5 Euro/Dollar) but how it compares with previous tracks being added (costing roughly 1 Euro/Dollar less), and perhaps more a principle than a monetary issue if I understand most correctly.

If it's remodelled I believe it's fair to charge as much as Spa or RouteX (I certainly know I'll use it much more than I do RouteX) even though it includes more variations.
If it would cost as much as the Spa/Kart Space pack (2 tracks including several variations) and we all could establish it's indeed a newly modelled version I doubt many would complain at all (aside form the usual suspects).
I think it's mostly that people question why there's an increased price and not necessarily the relative small amount it's increased by, and the implications this might have for future DLC pricing.

 

[DuskTrooper]

I don't know whether Twin Ring Motegi is just a port (upgraded or not) or newly modelled again

It's a port. You can clearly tell by some of the low-resolution textures on certain areas of the track. PD did improve some of the textures, but the only major difference between GT4 and GT5 versions besides some upgraded textures, is that the GT5 version has that "Gran Turismo Cafe" building modeled and placed on the track(s).

 

[lebes14]

If people are happy to pay that amount for one track, good for them, and I mean that genuinely.

However, I don't feel that such a long break between this and the last DLC, and also considering that each DLC is getting smaller and more expensive, I don't personally consider that as good value for money.

I understand that the whole PD team work incredily hard, but there's also no denying that things have been horribly disorganized at PD too, over the past few years especially. For the first time ever, I am beginning to consider Forza as being better than GT, mostly in regards to the extra content that is available (much much bigger DLC packs), as well as what the game already shipped with (car customization etc).

I have been feeling for a while now that the ball has been dropped. I will still buy the Motegi circuit as I want to race on it, but I'm not exactly buzzed about the price or the fact that's all we're getting after this long of a wait. I can't really count the GT Academy cars as new vehicles either, as they're pretty much already available in the game minus the sticker on the door.

Here's hoping to a surprise DLC or download of some sort in the near future, or announcement on the progress with GT6.

And the comments telling people to get a job is plain rude and ignorant. For one, unemployment is very high and not due to the everyday guy's fault. Secondly, and in my case, just because I have a job, it doesn't mean that I should go ahead and spend my money without regard. All people should appreciate value for money, no matter how rich or poor you are. If like the guy above said, you're happy to spend 100 dollars/quid/euros on a bottle of beer just because you can, then more fool you.

Also, telling people they are wrong for being upset with the DLC for expecting too much, like simonk said, what's is actually wrong with not being particularly happy with what's offered? If I sat in a restaurant and the waiter said I would receive a tasty filling meal in half an hours time, and previously paid 10 dollars/euros for it, then I'm sure you'd be a little unhappy if the meal actually took 2 hours to arrive, was nothing more than a basic microwave meal (no weather or time change) and then asked 20 dollars/euros for it.

+1, I agree with everything you said. Me and my friends judge something's worth by how many mcchickens you can get instead of it, and 5 mcchickens sound a bit better then a gt4 port to me right now. Lol

 

[ch3ng]

If people are happy to pay that amount for one track, good for them, and I mean that genuinely.

However, I don't feel that such a long break between this and the last DLC, and also considering that each DLC is getting smaller and more expensive, I don't personally consider that as good value for money.

I understand that the whole PD team work incredily hard, but there's also no denying that things have been horribly disorganized at PD too, over the past few years especially. For the first time ever, I am beginning to consider Forza as being better than GT, mostly in regards to the extra content that is available (much much bigger DLC packs), as well as what the game already shipped with (car customization etc).

I have been feeling for a while now that the ball has been dropped. I will still buy the Motegi circuit as I want to race on it, but I'm not exactly buzzed about the price or the fact that's all we're getting after this long of a wait. I can't really count the GT Academy cars as new vehicles either, as they're pretty much already available in the game minus the sticker on the door.

Here's hoping to a surprise DLC or download of some sort in the near future, or announcement on the progress with GT6.

And the comments telling people to get a job is plain rude and ignorant. For one, unemployment is very high and not due to the everyday guy's fault. Secondly, and in my case, just because I have a job, it doesn't mean that I should go ahead and spend my money without regard. All people should appreciate value for money, no matter how rich or poor you are. If like the guy above said, you're happy to spend 100 dollars/quid/euros on a bottle of beer just because you can, then more fool you.

Also, telling people they are wrong for being upset with the DLC for expecting too much, like simonk said, what's is actually wrong with not being particularly happy with what's offered? If I sat in a restaurant and the waiter said I would receive a tasty filling meal in half an hours time, and previously paid 10 dollars/euros for it, then I'm sure you'd be a little unhappy if the meal actually took 2 hours to arrive, was nothing more than a basic microwave meal (no weather or time change) and then asked 20 dollars/euros for it.

Best post in this Thread. I agree with you, but i still play much more GT than other Racing games.

 

[TheDabbinDave]

+1, I agree with everything you said. Me and my friends judge something's worth by how many mcchickens you can get instead of it, and 5 mcchickens sound a bit better then a gt4 port to me right now. Lol

Unless they are cold and not fresh out of the grease. However, long after those 5
McChickens or a 20 piece nugget have long been passed from my body and room clearing farts have faded away, I'll still have Motegi.

 

[Griffith500]

It's a port. You can clearly tell by some of the low-resolution textures on certain areas of the track. PD did improve some of the textures, but the only major difference between GT4 and GT5 versions besides some upgraded textures, is that the GT5 version has that "Gran Turismo Cafe" building modeled and placed on the track(s).

The texture "quality" is generally the same as other tracks. Aesthetically, though, the contents of those textures is a bit boring. But then how do you make well-kept grass banks interesting?

What other differences / changes since GT4 should there be?

 

[analog]

But then how do you make well-kept grass banks interesting?

Litter, tons of discarded litter (beer cans, food wrappings, some flyers and the occasional hat or cap), although this being a Japanese track would perhaps make that a bit unconvincing.

 

[C_Raccoon23]

If people are happy to pay that amount for one track, good for them, and I mean that genuinely.

However, I don't feel that such a long break between this and the last DLC, and also considering that each DLC is getting smaller and more expensive, I don't personally consider that as good value for money.

I understand that the whole PD team work incredily hard, but there's also no denying that things have been horribly disorganized at PD too, over the past few years especially. For the first time ever, I am beginning to consider Forza as being better than GT, mostly in regards to the extra content that is available (much much bigger DLC packs), as well as what the game already shipped with (car customization etc).

I have been feeling for a while now that the ball has been dropped. I will still buy the Motegi circuit as I want to race on it, but I'm not exactly buzzed about the price or the fact that's all we're getting after this long of a wait. I can't really count the GT Academy cars as new vehicles either, as they're pretty much already available in the game minus the sticker on the door.

Here's hoping to a surprise DLC or download of some sort in the near future, or announcement on the progress with GT6.

And the comments telling people to get a job is plain rude and ignorant. For one, unemployment is very high and not due to the everyday guy's fault. Secondly, and in my case, just because I have a job, it doesn't mean that I should go ahead and spend my money without regard. All people should appreciate value for money, no matter how rich or poor you are. If like the guy above said, you're happy to spend 100 dollars/quid/euros on a bottle of beer just because you can, then more fool you.

Also, telling people they are wrong for being upset with the DLC for expecting too much, like simonk said, what's is actually wrong with not being particularly happy with what's offered? If I sat in a restaurant and the waiter said I would receive a tasty filling meal in half an hours time, and previously paid 10 dollars/euros for it, then I'm sure you'd be a little unhappy if the meal actually took 2 hours to arrive, was nothing more than a basic microwave meal (no weather or time change) and then asked 20 dollars/euros for it.

Thank you! I agree with everything you said, especially with the last part. With some here, it's either say something good about the content PD provides or say nothing at all. It's ridiculous.

I hate to sound like a broken record if you don't like complaints don't come into a thread that is all about complaints.

👍 This was the point I was trying to make with my question earlier. Seriously, do people not have the will to not click on threads on something they won't like?

Game released: November 2, 2010


Still complaining about consistently added content: June 2012

Consistent?

 

[USARMYCOMBATVET]

People aren't really debating the DLC anymore. Now we've switched to philosophy and culture. This is getting interesting. Wait. Let me get my popcorn...

 

[Dragonwhisky]

People aren't really debating the DLC anymore. Now we've switched to philosphy and culture. This is getting interesting. Wait. Let me get my popcorn...

LOL.

But isn't that the way of normally occurring BS sessions?

 

[4everdelayed]

If you guys think five dollars is way too much money, get a job.

It still boggles my mind that people don't understand what this whole DLC deal actually does...

Even if it was $1, if PD knows that people are willing to buy the DLC, can you imagine what GT6 will be like? Or any other game for that matter. If not, let me give you a hint: the will make you pay to unlock content that's already on the $60 dollar game you bought. But it's still less expensive than a BigMac, right? I mean, who wouldn't love to get his intelligence insulted like that for a mere $5?

I honestly could go on and talk about how Sony created this monopoly, how that leads to higher prices and lower quality, or how they will continue to play with your emotions. But it's futile, really.

When's the next DLC coming?

 

[Pilitev]

It still boggles my mind that people don't understand what this whole DLC deal actually does...

Even if it was $1, if PD knows that people are willing to buy the DLC, can you imagine what GT6 will be like? Or any other game for that matter. If not, let me give you a hint: the will make you pay to unlock content that's already on the $60 dollar game you bought. But it's still less expensive than a BigMac, right? I mean, who wouldn't love to get his intelligence insulted like that for a mere $5?

I honestly could go on and talk about how Sony created this monopoly, how that leads to higher prices and lower quality, or how they will continue to play with your emotions. But it's futile, really.

When's the next DLC coming?

Well I bought all the DLCs up till Car pack 3. If this would go on I'll ultimately spend almost double the price of the game and that is not what I want.
And if GT6 is not really better in terms of more tracks/events/interesting new cars I simply won't buy it. So if this is indeed their strategy they're losing me as a customer. Not that they would bother, as there are probably enough people who still buy it.

 

[CJSpencer77]

Whatever anyone says it is odd that most people are asking for more DLC and PD simply dont seem to want to milk GT5 at all, surely PD want profit?

 

[USARMYCOMBATVET]

Whatever anyone says it is odd that most people are asking for more DLC and PD simply dont seem to want to milk GT5 at all, surely PD want profit?

It could be they have a touch of the Ethics-itis...

 

[twitcher]

I'll throw in my two cents, just for fun.

Overall, I'm pretty pleased with the Motegi DLC. I am a bit biased towards the track, as it has always been one of my favorites, despite being a tad bland. Weather effects would have been killer, but I can live without them (perhaps another update will add weather?).

As someone who primarily drifts in GT5, one thing I have wanted for a long long time, and am extremely disappointed with, especially with Motegi, is PD's reluctance to add a true "free roam" or "open area" version of the suitable tracks. What I mean by this is a version of tracks that have multiple configs, that opens up all versions at once.

I think this would be very easy for PD to implement, and shouldn't really cost them that much. That said, I would still pay 5-10 bucks to get all open versions of all multi-config tracks. I realize that most "racers" probably wouldn't find this too interesting, but I think it adds tons of possibilities for drifters, touge racers, and free roamers.

Imagine the possibilities at Motegi, Suzuka (with the west loop connection), Tsukuba, Nubergring!, Daytona, Indy, GVS, A-Ring, SSR5........sry, I was dreaming there for a second. Keeping in line with that same theme, having an open layout that would allow players to fully drive through the pits under their own control would be fantastic (Eiger short course anyone?!?!?).

As far as these people complaining about the Scion...really, you're complaining about something free? Of course not everyone is going to love it, and yes, it's basically a copy of an existing car, but it's still free!

No car (or track for that matter) offered as DLC is going to satisfy everyone. There are a lot of people asking for "insert rich guy's name here + some random alphabet/number combo" supercars, but personally, those cars add nothing to the game for me. I'm much happier with another low powered RWD sports car than I would be with some flashy supercar. I'm sure my ideal DLC car pack would probably piss of a lot of people lol (mostly JDM RWD from the 80's and 90's)...can't please everyone though.

Saying no one likes the Cappchino really shows your ignorance. That little Suzuki is one of the most popular cars in the game...how many other cars have incredibly involved racig series dedicated to them...not many.

I'm just glad we're still getting support from PD 2.5 years after release. How many other console games can boast that? I think people compaining that GT5 is "over" or that there isn't enough DLC speaks volumes to the attention span of the current gaming generation. I played some of the old school Mario games for years...no updates, no new versions every 8 months.

I don't think GT is perfect, and there are a lot of changes I would make if I could, but st the end of the day, I'm happy with what we have, and the support we get. I guess this is the interwebz, so people complaining over anything and everything is inevitable, but I think PD deserves more credit than they get.

 

[R34EVO9]

To continue to trot that out as a legitimate argument is weak. If you are still playing GT5 enough now to actually be reading this thread, your own actions betray your argument. There's what is and what should be. The "what is" of GT5 is a lot better than many of it's peers regardless of how much you wish it was one of Plato's Forms.

What you just said should end trolling forever

 

[thelvynau]

What you just said should end trolling forever

There are alot of people who stopped playing and post here.

 

[FishHunters]

I appreciate the new track (not the oval). At this point we have plenty of cars. Just need new challenging tracks to race them on.

 

[CorvetteConquer]

I appreciate the new track (not the oval). At this point we have plenty of cars. Just need new challenging tracks to race them on.

Until the standard cars are eliminated.

Then we'll begin to see where PD struggles: efficiency in car modeling. Maybe they've expanded staff (or outsourced), but the DLC is not demonstrative of that just yet.

 

[ajns73]

There are alot of people who stopped playing and post here.

While that is no doubt true, it reminds me of that one girlfriend/boyfriend we have all had that we just could not get over. The late night phone calls, the hang ups, the "accidentally" bumping into them, the not so accidentally bumping into them. It was pathetic when I did it, it is just as pathetic when others do it. Understandable, human, but pathetic.

If you really have given up on the game and have chosen to not play it, why seek out a topic in a forum such as this and throw in your two cents? Professional complainer? Like piling on? I mean, free country and all, but why bother? Just like our jilted lover, actions speak louder than words. Not to mention that rendering an opinion on a game or a piece of it that you no longer play (and thus one would assume having neither purchased nor interacted with the DLC) seems a bit ridiculous to me.

What do you think of the new DLC?
It stinks.
Have you raced the car or the track?
No.
None of the configurations?
No.
Have you even bought the DLC?
No.
Do you even still play the game?
No.
But you know the DLC stinks?
Yes.
Got it.

 

[Bye Ya]

What do you think of the new DLC?
It stinks.
Have you raced the car or the track?
No.
None of the configurations?
No.
Have you even bought the DLC?
No.
Do you even still play the game?
No.
But you know the DLC stinks?
Yes.
Got it.

Haha.

 

[thelvynau]

While that is no doubt true, it reminds me of that one girlfriend/boyfriend we have all had that we just could not get over. The late night phone calls, the hang ups, the "accidentally" bumping into them, the not so accidentally bumping into them. It was pathetic when I did it, it is just as pathetic when others do it. Understandable, human, but pathetic.

If you really have given up on the game and have chosen to not play it, why seek out a topic in a forum such as this and throw in your two cents? Professional complainer? Like piling on? I mean, free country and all, but why bother? Just like our jilted lover, actions speak louder than words. Not to mention that rendering an opinion on a game or a piece of it that you no longer play (and thus one would assume having neither purchased nor interacted with the DLC) seems a bit ridiculous to me.

What do you think of the new DLC?
It stinks.
Have you raced the car or the track?
No.
None of the configurations?
No.
Have you even bought the DLC?
No.
Do you even still play the game?
No.
But you know the DLC stinks?
Yes.
Got it.

Interesting way of putting it but another point is perhaps they have stopped playing and still want to contribute here.

Or maybe they have stopped until the next dlc arrives either way it doesnt matter its not unusual to continue to want to post and there is nothing wrong with it.

 

[ajns73]

Interesting way of putting it but another point is perhaps they have stopped playing and still want to contribute here.

Or maybe they have stopped until the next dlc arrives either way it doesnt matter its not unusual to continue to want to post and there is nothing wrong with it.

Wrong, no. Useful...... There are many areas here in which to contribute. Someone who no longer plays the game or hasn't played the DLC rendering an opinion on said items, just seems a bit misguided to me.

And before the peanut gallery says, "You don't have to buy the DLC to know if it is a good value," I'll say this: If the DLC was a known quantity I would agree. You know what a Snickers bar tastes like and how much you do or don't like it. No way you're paying $10 for a Snickers bar.

DLC is a bit different. You don't know what the tracks are like until you are out on them (bet your next paycheck that the next set of seasonals/TTs has a Motegi race). Whether a car looks the same or not, its design characteristics, handling, set-ups may differ. I have wasted money on things in my life, no doubt. But I have also shelled out more than I wanted to for something I didn't think was worth it only find that I got my money's worth plus some.

This doesn't mean that we should not try make educated decisions about how we spend our money, but it does mean that we should at least have some first hand knowledge of what we are talking about before we start throwing out opinions. Do you have to do it this way? Of course not. You are, after all, entitled to your opinion. But if no one listens or respects that opinion, you might as well be yelling into the abyss.