The New King of Racers? FM4

Only if you want to upscale it. I never upscale my games. I play them at the native resolution as the developer intended.
 
There will always be something for people like fyreandice to complain about.

Personally I'm fine with 720p 60hz as long as it stays stable without screen tearing, without drops in frame rate, etc... something 'the standard' has trouble doing in full blown 1080p. I'm no graphics junky. If it looks great (and sounds great) then I'm all for it. Don't need to be a spec whore here. Game needs to be fun first and foremost.
 
Bogie 19th
When did screens start having native resolutions? lol
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Modern LCDs and plasmas have a fixed resolution. A 1080p TV has pixel dimensions of 1920 x 1080. So if you're sending a signal to the TV at anything other than 1920 x 1080 the TV has to scale it. Nearly all Xbox 360 games are rendered at much lower resolution, usually 720p (1280 x 720) or something close to that. So either the Xbox 360 or the TV has to scale the image at some point, to map it to the TV's native 1080p resolution. Most of this applies to the PS3 too.
 
PZR Slim
Every LCD screen has a native resolution.
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12thgear
Modern LCDs and plasmas have a fixed resolution. A 1080p TV has pixel dimensions of 1920 x 1080. So if you're sending a signal to the TV at anything other than 1920 x 1080 the TV has to scale it. Nearly all Xbox 360 games are rendered at much lower resolution, usually 720p (1280 x 720) or something close to that. So either the Xbox 360 or the TV has to scale the image at some point, to map it to the TV's native 1080p resolution. Most of this applies to the PS3 too.
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It was a joke.
 
Wow not much talking about the features in here. I am EXTREMELY EXCITED bout this game and cant wait, I enjoyed every Forza so far and this looks to be the best one yet, all of my liveries coming over are a big plus! It will be soooooo good to see back fire and active aero on my cars now. I love cockpit view in FM3 but may have to "retrain" myself for third person view to enjoy the cars. It will be a little hurtful putting down my FM3 to enjoy 4, but I am sure she will understand.
 
FM will never be a Full Sim , and i think that the makers of FM doesnt want that

I think they want a mix of sim and arcade(Fun). That is the reason why FM or NFS or F12010 .... will never be a choice for me .

But i think that the guys who are playing FM or games like that will be very happy about FM4 ( ps: 10 cars per month with DLC -> the cars will not be very good and for me this would be a big **** , i want a finished game and not a half game , at the end i would pay some 100 euros for this game lol , FM3 has sold 3M copies maybe They want to get more money with the DLC's (microsoft style) to close the difference of 5M copies ? because gt5 Sold 8M copies in the first months )


PS: i don't compaired the two games i just compaired how much they sold , i say that because i think it would be wrong to do that , lets wait for NFS Shift 2 then we can do that XD
 
Other than Race Pro I can't think of any console racer that isn't a sim/arcade mix. Even GT5 has arcade aspects in it.

Also, I would hardly classify GT5(or any game released in the past 3-4 years) as a full game. It's not that the developers are lazy, it's just the way the market is currently.
 
ICEMAN_ZIDANE
FM will never be a Full Sim , and i think that the makers of FM doesnt want that

I think they want a mix of sim and arcade(Fun). That is the reason why FM or NFS or F12010 .... will never be a choice for me .

But i think that the guys who are playing FM or games like that will be very happy about FM4 ( ps: 10 cars per month with DLC -> the cars will not be very good and for me this would be a big **** , i want a finished game and not a half game , at the end i would pay some 100 euros for this game lol , FM3 has sold 3M copies maybe They want to get more money with the DLC's (microsoft style) to close the difference of 5M copies ? because gt5 Sold 8M copies in the first months )


PS: i don't compaired the two games i just compaired how much they sold , i say that because i think it would be wrong to do that , lets wait for NFS Shift 2 then we can do that XD
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The only "full sim" on ANY console was Race Pro for the 360 if we're going by the strictest standards which it seems you are. If you're not playing Race Pro OR any of the PC Racing sims then anything else you're playing is a little less than sim. And I mean ANYthing else.
 
ICEMAN_ZIDANE
FM will never be a Full Sim , and i think that the makers of FM doesnt want that

I think they want a mix of sim and arcade(Fun). That is the reason why FM or NFS or F12010 .... will never be a choice for me .

But i think that the guys who are playing FM or games like that will be very happy about FM4 ( ps: 10 cars per month with DLC -> the cars will not be very good and for me this would be a big **** , i want a finished game and not a half game , at the end i would pay some 100 euros for this game lol , FM3 has sold 3M copies maybe They want to get more money with the DLC's (microsoft style) to close the difference of 5M copies ? because gt5 Sold 8M copies in the first months )


PS: i don't compaired the two games i just compaired how much they sold , i say that because i think it would be wrong to do that , lets wait for NFS Shift 2 then we can do that XD
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And when was GT5 ever a full sim.

It's the just biggest illusion of those who has never actually played a true sim.....it's okay to be elitist but please know what is actually good before you sound like a hypocrite.
 
ICEMAN_ZIDANE
FM will never be a Full Sim , and i think that the makers of FM doesnt want that

I think they want a mix of sim and arcade(Fun). That is the reason why FM or NFS or F12010 .... will never be a choice for me .

But i think that the guys who are playing FM or games like that will be very happy about FM4 ( ps: 10 cars per month with DLC -> the cars will not be very good and for me this would be a big **** , i want a finished game and not a half game , at the end i would pay some 100 euros for this game lol , FM3 has sold 3M copies maybe They want to get more money with the DLC's (microsoft style) to close the difference of 5M copies ? because gt5 Sold 8M copies in the first months )


PS: i don't compaired the two games i just compaired how much they sold , i say that because i think it would be wrong to do that , lets wait for NFS Shift 2 then we can do that XD
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:ill: Wow dude

Was this even necessary or on topic?
 
prymet1me
:ill: Wow dude

Was this even necessary or on topic?
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Pretty much no but you know what they say about the truth. It hurts. And when some people get hurt they strike out irrationally.
Truth is FM4 is looking like it will eclipse anything with four wheels on a console.

FM3 and GT5 were arguably neck and neck, FM4 is looking like it's planning to end the argument decisively.
 
t.o.
Pretty much no but you know what they say about the truth. It hurts. And when some people get hurt they strike out irrationally.
Truth is FM4 is looking like it will eclipse anything with four wheels on a console.

FM3 and GT5 were arguably neck and neck, FM4 is looking like it's planning to end the argument decisively.
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I just wanted to see discussion about the game and things in TCs post. All this bashing from GT fans is annoying.
 
Justin
Other than Race Pro I can't think of any console racer that isn't a sim/arcade mix. Even GT5 has arcade aspects in it.

Also, I would hardly classify GT5(or any game released in the past 3-4 years) as a full game. It's not that the developers are lazy, it's just the way the market is currently.
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F1 CE was a full game so was F1 2010 and so where many other racing an non racing games,
 
cuco33
There will always be something for people like fyreandice to complain about.

Personally I'm fine with 720p 60hz as long as it stays stable without screen tearing, without drops in frame rate, etc... something 'the standard' has trouble doing in full blown 1080p. I'm no graphics junky. If it looks great (and sounds great) then I'm all for it. Don't need to be a spec whore here. Game needs to be fun first and foremost.
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Please point out where I complained.

I wasn't making an argument for or against the games resolution. For all we know, the game could go the GT5 route with 1280x1080 and simply be upscaled to 1920x1080.

Bogie 19th
It was a joke.
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Sure it was, you actually realised how much of a fool you were for posting someone that was clearly wrong and now you're trying to justify it as a "joke"
 
prymet1me
I just wanted to see discussion about the game and things in TCs post. All this bashing from GT fans is annoying.
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The more info Turn 10 releases the more of this you'll see. The closer we get to release date the more they'll come out the woodwork. Nature of the internet hate beast. Sad, and I mean REALLY sad part is 90 percent of these "educated opinions" will be from people who never held a 360 controller in their life. I for one have an opinion because I own both 360 and PS3 consoles and have a wheel that works with both. I bought GT5 and FM3 , haven't played GT5 in months.
 
tribolik
F1 CE was a full game so was F1 2010 and so where many other racing an non racing games,
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I said 3-4 years, F1CE was 5. I also felt, while it was a good game, F1 2010 was lacking in features(which is expected from a first year game) and had a good number of bugs(Which I feel plays a role in completeness).

Thing is I can't remember the last game that came out that didn't need patching or had DLC announced before or right after the game was released.
 
ICEMAN_ZIDANE
FM will never be a Full Sim , and i think that the makers of FM doesnt want that

I think they want a mix of sim and arcade(Fun). That is the reason why FM or NFS or F12010 .... will never be a choice for me .

But i think that the guys who are playing FM or games like that will be very happy about FM4 ( ps: 10 cars per month with DLC -> the cars will not be very good and for me this would be a big **** , i want a finished game and not a half game , at the end i would pay some 100 euros for this game lol , FM3 has sold 3M copies maybe They want to get more money with the DLC's (microsoft style) to close the difference of 5M copies ? because gt5 Sold 8M copies in the first months )


PS: i don't compaired the two games i just compaired how much they sold , i say that because i think it would be wrong to do that , lets wait for NFS Shift 2 then we can do that XD
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As much as I would like to bash on T10 and Forza4, I just can't. They seem to be doing a lot of things right this time, first and most importantly the physics.

As far as GT having sold 8 mil. and Forza3 sold about 3 mil. You should check it out before spreading lies!

GT5
http://gamrreview.vgchartz.com/sales/7678/gran-turismo-5/

Forza3
http://gamrreview.vgchartz.com/sales/30434/forza-motorsport-3/

About the DLC cars, on Forza3 all of the DLC cars looked as good as the rest maybe with a little more better finishing touch. Keeps the game fresh and new,no complaints on that.

I wish PD would release every month a DLC but it seems like they just don't believe in that sort of thing. I say, It's their loss, period.

Here is a video where It looks like the physics have been gone through completely and also it looks like there is no more that Active Steering that was in Forza3.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPhZlV1uoOo


All in all, Forz4 looks really good and all the features that has been revealed is just amazing stuff. PD defo should take notes.
 

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