The Nissan GTR LMP reviews and discussion thread. WITH POLL!

[fortbo]

Never would I have thought that driving the absolute heck out of a 1999 Caravan would prepare me for LeMans.

Kidding aside, it's actually really challenging in a way no other GTA event has been yet. I like it, even if it's weird.

This has been the easiest GTA for me actually. I got in the top 42 regionally fairly easily with a 3:30.491. I think that is just because I'm pretty good at driving LMP cars.

 

[trustjab]

With a little tune and some mediums, 3:25's are easy at Sarthe. It can definitely go 3:20 and lower with softs and more practice!

 

[ConnorWolf]

This has been the easiest GTA for me actually. I got in the top 42 regionally fairly easily with a 3:30.491. I think that is just because I'm pretty good at driving LMP cars.

Right, it's easier in one aspect - that the time is not incredibly difficult to get (I'm at 3:27.7 right now.. I think. 27 something) but it is very difficult to get in consistent laps without hitting a cone or going off course on such a long lap. I think that has a lot to do with how easy it's been to this point, but that the ones who are serious will get a lot closer as time goes on. It will take a lot longer than normal for times to get tight, though.

 

[fortbo]

Right, it's easier in one aspect - that the time is not incredibly difficult to get (I'm at 3:27.7 right now.. I think. 27 something) but it is very difficult to get in consistent laps without hitting a cone or going off course on such a long lap. I think that has a lot to do with how easy it's been to this point, but that the ones who are serious will get a lot closer as time goes on. It will take a lot longer than normal for times to get tight, though.

I'm gonna try to get in the 20's tomorrow.

 

[danardif1]

With a little tune and some mediums, 3:25's are easy at Sarthe. It can definitely go 3:20 and lower with softs and more practice!

I got into the 3.22's yesterday afternoon on soft tyres and still had time left to find. Once you get into the groove with this car you can do fantastic stints just improving every lap.

 

[fortbo]

I voted awesome by the way.

 

[208SpeedGeek]

Seeing the posts where everyone is complaining and I just gotta say.... The GTR-LM drives like what it is............ a FWD car!
Yes it understeers a little bit. Yes it's a lot different than any other LMP car. Yes it only has a 5 speed gearbox. The car is great for what it is though! I think PD has done a great job replicating the GTR-LM for us to play around with.

I got gold on my 3rd lap around the track (first 2 laps were invalidated). Thats in the car that's given to you for the contest and you can't adjust anything except TC, ABS, etc... Once I won the car, went to my garage and got to adjusting the few things you can change, a quick adjustment of the diff and toe in/toe out and it corners much better. I'm running on with TC on 1 and no ABS. The car is very easy to drive on a smooth race track. On a bumpy race track, the car beats you up a bit because it's so stiffly sprung. You really feel it if you're using a wheel.

I'm not a PD apologist. They do a bunch of things that I hate but they also get a lot of things right. I think they got the GTR-LM right. I'll never drive the real one to compare it to the game but this is a nice addition to the game. Drive it fast and enjoy the fact that we get a highly detailed video game version of modern racecar that hasn't even turned a real lap in a real race yet.

 

[sk8er913]

Never would I have thought that driving the absolute heck out of a 1999 Caravan would prepare me for LeMans.

Kidding aside, it's actually really challenging in a way no other GTA event has been yet. I like it, even if it's weird.

You know what else is challenging?
@Sinyster

 

[ScottPuss20]

This car is just reverse engineering. Meaning that it's bloody hard to drive because of the car's unique properties.

 

[CaptainTNT]

I'm not sure whether to accept the terms & conditions & do a poor lap not gold to get this car because I not want to enter the competition & I not even have a car licence yet so I guess I will just sit it out until the GTR LMP comes to the Nissan dealership. I wish they had second enter button for those who just wish to win the car without entering the competition.

 

[sk8er913]

I'm not sure whether to accept the terms & conditions & do the lap to get this car because I not want to enter the competition & I not even have a car licence yet so I guess I will just sit it out until the GTR LMP comes to the Nissan dealership. I wish they had second enter button for those who just wish to win the car without entering the competition.

You wont win by doing 1 or 2 laps. I know that I and another top level player have done many many hours of hot lapping he was a little more successful than I was unfortunately... he has a 3:27 and I have a 3:28 gold is 3:37.

 

[CaptainTNT]

You wont win by doing 1 or 2 laps. I know that I and another top level player have done many many hours of hot lapping he was a little more successful than I was unfortunately... he has a 3:27 and I have a 3:28 gold is 3:37.

You misunderstood me. I have no intentions of getting gold. I was only interested it getting the GTR LMP even if I did a poor lap to get it.

 

[FussyFez]

You misunderstood me. I have no intentions of getting gold. I was only interested it getting the GTR LMP even if I did a poor lap to get it.

There is nothing stopping you from doing so...

 

[smskeeter23]

I did my first few laps with TCS1 simply because I didn't know how bad the wheelspin would be. Got gold fairly quickly and then turned off the TCS to go to work on it. I hate how much the car bounces around and how much you have to slow it down before turn in but other than that I guess it's OK. I just haven't truly learned what the beast wants yet. Since I was really tired and pretty casual last night when I had a little session I only ran down to a 3:35.4 and I have SO much time I can pick up easily once I just get a bit more brave with the boundaries.

Anyway, decided to also test out a camera I am giving my son tomorrow. Kind of funny... so here is last nights 2hr session (in 8 seconds)

 

[Ryk]

Done 200 miles in this car, stock no aids. It isn't all bad but usually when I over drive I get the car all out of shape and I have to counter steer and balance the car to prevent a spin. If you over drive this, you cook the front tyres and end up with the turning ability of the Amoco Cadiz. (An Ocean going Super Tanker that - crashed - ironically due to a steering failure in/on France.)

If you like Front wheel drive cars then - this could well be just the nugget of purest understeer you have been craving.

It hasn't made me revise the opinion that "Life is too short to waste time driving a front wheel drive car."

I am almost surprised Nissan didn't scrap one of the rear wheels and go for a reversed trike layout -

Looks - "Gopping" - It kind of reminds me of an 1860's idea of the future. (Paris in the 20th century style.)
May well be the best Front wheel drive car - in the world - but that is like the Best Scottish Goalkeeper - in the world.

I did give it a chance. Honest.

Maybe in reverse - Mid engine ... Rear Wheel drive... (Looking good) rear wheel steering... (Never mind)

 

[C-ZETA]

Once you adapt to it, the car is pretty good. Of course the fact you have to adapt makes it pretty terrible period but the reassuring thing is that unlike most pretty terrible cars you can at least get used to it.

Unfortunately Le Mans doesn't do it justice. Not GT Academy's interpretation of it anyway. Can't believe some of the fail zones they've invented for the final round.

Hopefully Nissan can make it faster than LMP2s in real life. If they don't, they'd need a lot of steel to shake off the laughing stock tag by keeping on going and using the car's full potential.

 

[Whodoyouthink]

I kinda enjoy this car. It's nice knowing you won't snap oversteer and spin out mid corner. At the same time, though, I don't like how you understeer in typical FF fashion mid corner when you get too happy with the throttle.

I do like how you can really chuck it in to the corners, it suites my aggressive driving style reasonably well.

I really hate the low visibility cockpit, although I rarely use driver's view so I can sort of overlook that. Still, I can't even do a casual lap around Le Mans without running off and/or hitting cones. I'm sure Jann and the rest of the crew feel similar (already heard Jann say something about poor visibility in the Jay Leno's Garage episode with the car).

The game doesn't factor in the hybrid system, it still has well over 1,000 hp.

Is that the same case then for the TS030 as well? We all know it could definitely be valued at a higher PP level, but since it has relatively low HP and other factors, it maxes out well below 625PP (I think 623 PP is max). That's with an oil change. Yet this car Maxes out in the 660s for PP! Obviously, they quite like the car and want the perception of it to be that of a incredibly fast and competitive car. I'm sure it will be, but still...

The Toyota and Audi are 2012 models (actually, not sure about the Audi, maybe 2013...), so that could be a small part of it.

But back to the KERS topic. This is the first I've heard of the couple extra 100 hundred HP somehow being modeled in. I mean, it sounds believable, and there is that battery gauge in the HUD, but I don't get the sensation any of them drive like they really have that much power modeled in.

 

[eran0004]

I really like the car. It's a little scary to drive because of the way it handles but it's really fast, especially through high speed corners. The visibility from the cockpit is not the best though, it's really hard to see the apex of sharp corners.

The sound is great, there's a lot of popping from the engine. Maybe that sound engineer from Forza has been involved there?

The reason for the 5 speed gearbox is probably that it's got a flat power curve, so there's no point in adding more gears to it.

 

[GTracer98]

This Nissan LMP is one weird car at first. It's super powerful and has brilliant grip when you travel 120+km/h. It really holds the line well and it has great brakes.

The problem is that it bounces a lot, it's kinda hard to hit the apexes when the whole car is shaking. Then there's the understeer, the chicanes and Arnage are the weak points for the car, it takes a really careful throttle control. But that's to be expected from a 1000+HP FWD car.

Once you get used to it's weird driving characteristics though, you really can give it all and it will respond well. The power curve is nearly perfect, so there's no trouble with choosing the right gear.

Basically, it's a great car overall, it just requires you to drive and treat it differently than other racecars. 👍

 

[fortbo]

Is that the same case then for the TS030 as well? We all know it could definitely be valued at a higher PP level, but since it has relatively low HP and other factors, it maxes out well below 625PP (I think 623 PP is max). That's with an oil change. Yet this car Maxes out in the 660s for PP! Obviously, they quite like the car and want the perception of it to be that of a incredibly fast and competitive car. I'm sure it will be, but still...

The Toyota and Audi are 2012 models (actually, not sure about the Audi, maybe 2013...), so that could be a small part of it.

But back to the KERS topic. This is the first I've heard of the couple extra 100 hundred HP somehow being modeled in. I mean, it sounds believable, and there is that battery gauge in the HUD, but I don't get the sensation any of them drive like they really have that much power modeled in.

Yes, thats the case with the Toyota, but not with the Audi because it is the TDI and not the E-Tron.

 

[GTRacer22]

Uhh... The physics on this car are a bit wacky.

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[Whodoyouthink]

This Nissan LMP is one weird car at first. It's super powerful and has brilliant grip when you travel 120+km/h. It really holds the line well and it has great brakes.

The problem is that it bounces a lot, it's kinda hard to hit the apexes when the whole car is shaking. Then there's the understeer, the chicanes and Arnage are the weak points for the car, it takes a really careful throttle control. But that's to be expected from a 1000+HP FWD car.

Once you get used to it's weird driving characteristics though, you really can give it all and it will respond well. The power curve is nearly perfect, so there's no trouble with choosing the right gear.

Basically, it's a great car overall, it just requires you to drive and treat it differently than other racecars. 👍

Well, it does have its spring rate literally set, on both front and back, to the absolute lowest setting. That being said, the spring rate units are still pretty high.

For the 5 speed, I've heard multiple times that the big teams run them, in part, because of reliability. But yeah, I think the power curve has something to do with it as well. When you think about it, Audi must have found that to be the case with their diesels. Although I guess within the past 2 years or so they finally started using a 6 speed.

 

[DSkywalker01]

Uhh... The physics on this car are a bit wacky.

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If it has taken off on the other side it would have been a very realistic blowover.

 

[Blank_Redge]

...FWD?? No wonder; running the Time Trial this morning, I was wondering why it had such terrible turn-in.

Did get the gold on the TT, but WOW. As of this morning, the leader was a good ten seconds ahead of me.

I can maaaybe shave off another second with my DS3, but... yeah. Don't expect I'll be placing the top 20 for this round. =p

 

[VeeDubberLow]

Really enjoyed driving the gtr.

Great impression of both steering AND accelerating with the front wheels.

Sounds amazing too.

 

[t_wilson01]

Oh, the Pain! This car sure takes a while to get used to it. The understeer is quite severe in slow corners, but it handles better around medium speed corners. And it sounds great.

edit:Posted new video.

 

[lTwiSparkle]

I do actually like the car! I just wish we had a full Endurance race to test it with, I think it's great at enabling consistency over pure speed is all
Ah well! Maybe someday

 

[RACECAR]

So here's my observation after spending time with this car:

This car at first is indeed a handful. When you've been used to exclusively racing Rear-Engined LMPs the way I have, this car does definitely comes as a shock as it massively contrasts the other cars and I think I know why. When you drive those LMPs, you actually become dependent on the oversteer (or at least I did) to actually pitch the car and turn in better and because the way the layout is, it works to that degree. For example with the Toyota TS030, you can make a wide and almost late entry into the Porsche curves and the rear will pitch out just a little at high speed, allowing you abit more grip and you can still make it. With the Nissan GT-R LM, you have to be much more precise with your entry because if you are even slightly off, you will have to correct it either with throttle or steering. The layout with that power and downforce is tricky but if you can tidy up your lines and carry it in the corners as opposed to throwing it in, you'll actually be rewarded.


Overall, I love the car. It is definitely a car that you'll ether despise with a passion (likely because you have a almost religious distaste towards its configuration) or you'll actually enjoy. As someone who spends time with a lot of cars in different configurations and don't really have a preference, this was a car that I was most curious about. While the first few laps were quite a jolt to my system (or multiple jolts if you want to count the amount of times this car mimics going on rocky terrain with a ruined suspension), I began to actually like it the more time I spent with it and learned its unusual quirks. For me, it really shined in the test run I did at the 24 Minutes of Le Mans. Within the first lap, I managed to pass all the cars and get the lead. The speed is very much insane, it feels Group C quick even though it doesn't have the matching power. And through being exact with my lines, I managed to keep in on track and put in some good clean laps. Its a car that definitely takes some getting used to, but it will reward you once you do (assuming your G27 still works ) . Definitely worth staring the cones in the face for 👍

Well, it does have its spring rate literally set, on both front and back, to the absolute lowest setting. That being said, the spring rate units are still pretty high.

For the 5 speed, I've heard multiple times that the big teams run them, in part, because of reliability. But yeah, I think the power curve has something to do with it as well. When you think about it, Audi must have found that to be the case with their diesels. Although I guess within the past 2 years or so they finally started using a 6 speed.

I tried adjusting the springs and while the bumpiness wasn't helped, it did feel like it made the car abit more compliant.

As for the Transmission, I think Audi just relied on the sheer torque of their diesel and just felt 6-Speed wasn't necessary. When Toyota came along however with their Petrol-Hybrid package and began outpacing them with their 6-speed was about the time when Audi finally decided to go with a 6-speed. I could be wrong though.

 

[N0t_L3fty]

I hope there is a warning on the koolaid you folks are drinking. You all would be singing the praises to a 63' rambler wagon if PD pushed one out to you. It's Fugly & handles like a garbage truck on ice.

 

[sparkytooth]

Rambler Wagons look very cool actually.