The NSX is making a return...

[The Vanishing Boy]

-> ...

The thing is, would it be worth it? The HR10EG engine is only 490 HP, while the engine on the NSX will make more than that. The Twin turbocharged V6 would also be more efficient and, perhaps, effective than the V8 when it comes down to performance.

And what makes that so much desirable over having the 3.4L V8 HR09E engine (which it is based upon)? Just the fact that it was in the HSV?

^ Remember that the HR10EG is restricted up to its eyeballs as per Super GT rules (hence the GT500 class).

-> I would easily see this as an oppor-TUNE-ity for a raw-er, less complicated, lightweight, RWD-only, non-electronic assisted, extremely built, not available in the USA NSX-R / NSX Type-R model. Plus, have you ever heard the music that the HSV-010 emits? It would definitely matches the equally knee-weakening Lexus LFA.

Thanks for clearing that up. Why would reviewers see it as an R8 copy?

Maybe it's partly the silhouette?

^ It's much deeper than that. As with the BMW M1 & 1st-gen NSX, the R8 is focused to be the quintessentially the 'everyday supercar.' Audi started the R8 with a 'maintenance-friendly' 4.2 V8 from the B7 RS4, then its snout/nose needs to be compliant with the safety regs and better luggage capacity at the same time. Plus as with the new NSX, the R8 has to prioritize cabin space & outward visibility to make these sports car livable on a day to day chores. The i8 does these too (with an addition of two more "seats" at the back [like the Lotus Evora]), but the Bimmer relies more on 'green tech' than the R8 and the new NSX.

 

[Grandea GTR]

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^ Remember that the HR10EG is restricted up to its eyeballs as per Super GT rules (hence the GT500 class).

-> I would easily see this as an oppor-TUNE-ity for a raw-er, less complicated, lightweight, RWD-only, non-electronic assisted, extremely built, not available in the USA NSX-R / NSX Type-R model. Plus, have you ever heard the music that the HSV-010 emits? It would definitely matches the equally knee-weakening Lexus LFA.

The thing is, the HR10EG engine was built for the specific purpose of complying with the GT500 regulations. If you want more power, then the HR09E takes the cake. But it would still not be as efficient as the TT V6, and seeing how the HR10EG and HR09E are racing engines, it would definitely increase the price of the car.

I also wouldn't think Honda would give an NSX-R a V8, namely because it just doesn't make sense when it comes to the car. I could see it being RWD, but that's highly unlikely.

 

[MSZ]

wasn't the prototype of the na1 introduced as an Acura at the 1989 Chicago autoshow?

 

[CodeRedR51]

Possible Type-R variation incoming?

http://www.autoblog.com/2015/01/14/acura-nsx-type-r-report/

 

[RACECAR]

-> ...



^ Remember that the HR10EG is restricted up to its eyeballs as per Super GT rules (hence the GT500 class).

-> I would easily see this as an oppor-TUNE-ity for a raw-er, less complicated, lightweight, RWD-only, non-electronic assisted, extremely built, not available in the USA NSX-R / NSX Type-R model. Plus, have you ever heard the music that the HSV-010 emits? It would definitely matches the equally knee-weakening Lexus LFA.
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So basically, because it was in the HSV.

You realize that's not all engine and its the exhaust, right?


2012 HSV-010:




2013 HSV-010:




Same engine and same car.

 

[TS050]

So basically, because it was in the HSV.

2013 HSV-010:




Same engine and same car.

Slightly off-topic, but the 2013 HSV sounds pretty boring compared to the 2012 version. Or, maybe that's just me.

--

Anyway, I think Honda/Acura should make an NSX-R with at least 640bhp, and another version that removes the electric motors, and they stick in the HR10EG from the HSV.


I think that would be a good idea, I guess.

 

[chengman]

-> ...

-> I got three reasons on why:

-> First, this NSX debuted as an Acura first yesterday. While Honda is busy introducing its FCX (in Detroit) and getting the S660 roadster ready for production (in JDM land).

-> Second, unlike the original [NA1/NA2] NSX. This NSX will be made in Ohio as in the US. Infact, this will be Acura's first true sports car unlike the NA-body was just a simple re-badge. Honda will be the secondary brand for this NSX, not the other way around anymore.

-> Third, JDM-land had little involvement in regards to engineering this NSX. I can tell that this Acura is more tailored to the American buyer rather than its Global audience factor.

^ I can already predict its mediocre performance reviews on many buff-mags in Europe. Most European reviewers will definitely see this as a blatant copy to the R8 and i8.

So no one wants to "roll up" in a Nissan, but they'll happily pay for rebadged, ridiculously overpriced Toyota IQ?

Who said anyone was going to buy a Cygnet? They only sold 108 of those. You have a better chance of finding a Pagani than a Cygnet

 

[RACECAR]

Who said anyone was going to buy a Cygnet? They only sold 108 of those. You have a better chance of finding a Pagani than a Cygnet

I was just bringing up how contradictory people seem to be, thinking that a Nissan GT-R in the same crowd as the Audi R8, Ferrari 458 and Porsche 911 is a no-no but yet (even if there isn't a lot) are willing to put down a crap load of money for a car that literally only has a badge job that jumps up the price.

 

[The Vanishing Boy]

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The thing is, the HR10EG engine was built for the specific purpose of complying with the GT500 regulations. If you want more power, then the HR09E takes the cake. But it would still not be as efficient as the TT V6, and seeing how the HR10EG and HR09E are racing engines, it would definitely increase the price of the car.

^ I admit I have little to no knowledge about race engines. And I wasn't aware about a more powerful engine.

I also wouldn't think Honda would give an NSX-R a V8, namely because it just doesn't make sense when it comes to the car. I could see it being RWD, but that's highly unlikely.

^ I believe you, given Honda's recent (bumbling) decisions [eg. not giving an all-engine option on the CR-Z]. But hey!...

Anyway, I think Honda/Acura should make an NSX-R with at least 640bhp, and another version that removes the electric motors, and they stick in the HR10EG from the HSV.

I think that would be a good idea, I guess.

^... As with Jalopnik, we all want to hope.

So basically, because it was in the HSV.

You realize that's not all engine and its the exhaust, right?

Same engine and same car.

^ Yeah, I understand. But the '12-spec is just so juicy!

Slightly off-topic, but the 2013 HSV sounds pretty boring compared to the 2012 version. Or, maybe that's just me.

^ Yup, the '13-spec sounds like it was on a jazz trumpet...

 

[JohnBM01]

The past NSXes (especially the first ones) will always resonate with me. While the newer NSX may not stir the soul quite like the past NSX models, I will genuinely admit that the new NSX is captivating and beautiful. Its low profile and elegant design appear amazing. I surely would love to see one in person. I even would want to see one of these as a racing car, even if a one-off race car or even as a GT3-spec car.

 

[JohnBM01]

I read about the new NSX in Automobile Magazine. I have gone from not real excited about the new NSX to being very excited about the NSX. This is a new-age NSX that is still every bit as appealing as the classic NSX models. Funny thing I read was that this car mostly targeted the Audi R8 road car initially... until switching its focus to the Ferrari 458 Italia. I think it's okay to not like the new NSX because it isn't like the classic models. On the other hand, this is as much as performance machine as the classic NSX, even if this one is fancier with its twin-turbo V6 and those other motors as part of its combined 550 horsepower. So I'm more excited about the NSX than I've ever been. Still don't know if I'd take an NSX over the R8, but the new NSX is tough to overlook.

 

[Luminis]

Anyway, I think Honda/Acura should make an NSX-R with at least 640bhp, and another version that removes the electric motors, and they stick in the HR10EG from the HSV.


I think that would be a good idea, I guess.

Keep the NSX as the sort of high-tech every-day super car it's always been. For the raw, fun part, Honda "just" needs to make the HSV road legal. Best of both worlds, imho

 

[ProjectWHaT]

Acura NSX test mule spotted running around the canyons of Los Angeles.

 

[JR98]

Looks niiice. STI looks nice too!

 

[chengman]

From what I've gathered from my people, expect it to be like the original NSX in terms of performance. It'll be a corner carver rather than a 7 second GT-R.

 

[Anthony]

I was in that same area (might have even been on the same road) yesterday. Didn't spot any camo'ed NSXs.

 

[Keef]

I was at Transportation Research Center in Marysville today, Honda's proving grounds. We were testing the Formula Buckeyes FSAE car and a camo NSX showed up. The driver was pissed because apparently he had it reserved but we've had the reservation for a month or more so I don't know what he was on about. He was probably upset that all he was doing was driving slowly back and forth. The car was really quiet - maybe in electric mode, but I heard a low, quiet turbo V6 grumble. It was just...boring. Driving our race car was much more exciting.

 

[Eunos_Cosmo]

I was at Transportation Research Center in Marysville today, Honda's proving grounds. We were testing the Formula Buckeyes FSAE car and a camo NSX showed up. The driver was pissed because apparently he had it reserved but we've had the reservation for a month or more so I don't know what he was on about. He was probably upset that all he was doing was driving slowly back and forth. The car was really quiet - maybe in electric mode, but I heard a low, quiet turbo V6 grumble. It was just...boring. Driving our race car was much more exciting.

Maybe you'll catch the Wolverine car this year. Probably not.

 

[Keef]

Maybe you'll catch the Wolverine car this year. Probably not.

Our car is going to finish this year, for sure. Their car is insanely fast, however. The aero package might look interesting but the wings aren't doing much - the diffuser appears quite functional.The car puts down a ton of torque and the wheels are constantly spinning and the driver is always sideways, working very hard. I was .2 seconds off their time on a 1:04 lap on a course that was not too good a representation of the competition course. Their car might be fast but looks very unstable, though their driver is good enough to take advantage of that.

We take solace in the fact that Michigan didn't make their own carbon fiber while we make every single piece, even the monocoque chassis.

 

[JohnBM01]

I am still fairly excited about the NSX more than I used to be. The past NSX models are iconic- they aren't going to be forgotten any time soon. This newer NSX will be great for what it is. I still want to check out a proper newer NSX in person one day.

 

[Ddrizle]

2016 NSX Pikes Peak pace car.

 

[RACECAR]

Both, or just the one behind it?

Edit: Misread it as "Race Car". Bifocals it is

 

[SVPSkins]

2016 NSX Pikes Peak pace car.

that looks stunning

 

[Bo]

Both, or just the one behind it?

He said pace car.

The car in the background is James Robinson's entry.

 

[RACECAR]

He said pace car.

The car in the background is James Robinson's entry.

I edited my post.

 

[Ddrizle]

 

[ProjectWHaT]

NSX goes up Pikes Peak

 

[Eunos_Cosmo]

I'm pretty sure they edited in some C32 (original NSX engine) sound effects.

 

[Ddrizle]

 

[pokemonfan58]

The last picture, was that taken in Los Angeles?