The NSX is making a return...

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NSX Spotted i believe in Ohio

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Just saw a video with one of those exact cars at Honda's Headquarters in irving, Texas.

Now if you excuse me, I'm gonna go hang my head in shame now knowing this...
 
Used to be that all Acuras were made in Japan, for that alone I loved that brand. Those cars felt like they were better built then the US made Hondas (I owned an Integra DC2 and my parents owned a TL '00). So needless to say, I was highly disappointed when I heard the NSX was going to be built in the US... As somebody mentioned before, I believe this car will be ridiculed by Euro and Asian reviewers.

Acura better not make a type R of this car, please leave that sacred badge alone for real Hondas
 
Acura better not make a type R of this car, please leave that sacred badge alone for real Hondas
:odd: You're serious, right? Acura had an Integra Type-R here in the states before. Also, I would hardly believe that the European and the Asian countries would ridicule the car just because it's made in the US.
 
:odd: You're serious, right? Acura had an Integra Type-R here in the states before. Also, I would hardly believe that the European and the Asian countries would ridicule the car just because it's made in the US.

Yes dead serious... and where was that Integra type R built? Not in the US that's for sure
 
I hardly understand the logic in this. Why would a car be considered bad if it was built in a different place?
Because he's spewing some Japanese-fanboy type rant.

I own one of those US-made cars & nothing from the Honda side at the time was in any way better built. But, they weren't supposed to be because Honda's reliability stretches across the line-up regardless of where it's manufactured. It is the same with Toyota/Lexus; the Japanese are extremely meticulous about remaining consistent with their production across the globe. Whilst I can not directly speak for Honda, I know Toyota makes it a point to send its top assembly line workers over seas to oversee production at other plants.
 
Yes dead serious... and where was that Integra type R built? Not in the US that's for sure
You do know a majority of Japanese cars sold in this country are built here now, right? In fact the highest producing automotive plant in the country is the Nissan plant in Tennessee.
 
I hardly understand the logic in this. Why would a car be considered bad if it was built in a different place?

Because according to the internet, the US version of any car is never as good as the one made in Japan (Nevermind the consistency in quality as @McLaren pointed out).
 
I hardly understand the logic in this. Why would a car be considered bad if it was built in a different place?

The reason I think that is because companies like Toyota, Honda, and VW all build cars in different countries for the sole purpose of being more cost effective. And how does a company become cost effective? By hiring cheaper labor. Cheaper labor yields inferior quality products.

It's not just the auto industry, take electronics for example, there used to be a time when Sony and Panasonic products were made in Japan. Those items were better built then these things that are made in China nowadays.

Edit: @R1600Turbo yes I'm aware of that but volume doesn't necessary mean quality. VW sells lots and lots of cars but about 20% is actually worth the money (mostly because they build their cars everywhere except Germany)
 
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The reason I think that is because companies like Toyota, Honda, and VW all build cars in different countries for the sole purpose of being more cost effective.
This is true.
And how does a company become cost effective? By hiring cheaper labor.
This is partially true, but if they were bargain basement they would rely more heavily upon LEDCs. You have to think about workforce availability and also shipping logistics.
Cheaper labor yields inferior quality products.
That's a terribly narrow train of thought. It doesn't matter where your car is made, the same robots will put it together, programmed from the same CAD files, and everything will undergo identical checks. Craftmanship only comes into bespoke products in the 21st century, that exactly the reason why large companies search for cheap labour - they produce the same product from the same materials for a lot less pay. Anything else is pure logical fallacy.
It's not just the auto industry, take electronics for example, there used to be a time when Sony and Panasonic products were made in Japan. Those items were better built then these things that are made in China nowadays.
Possibly, but then again, would you really see an improvement if they shifted back to Japan? They'd only go through exactly the same robotised processes, only with different nationalities supervising them. Anything about build quality being down to the nationalities of workers is anywhere from extremely naive to borderline racist.
 
The reason I think that is because companies like Toyota, Honda, and VW all build cars in different countries for the sole purpose of being more cost effective. And how does a company become cost effective? By hiring cheaper labor. Cheaper labor yields inferior quality products.

It's not just the auto industry, take electronics for example, there used to be a time when Sony and Panasonic products were made in Japan. Those items were better built then these things that are made in China nowadays.
Wrong & already explained why.

The Lexus RX from Fukuoka & the Lexus RX from Ontario are built & held to the same standards. I have personally seen & had more than enough time to experience both; there are zero differences.
 
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This is true.

This is partially true, but if they were bargain basement they would rely more heavily upon LEDCs. You have to think about workforce availability and also shipping logistics.

That's a terribly narrow train of thought. It doesn't matter where your car is made, the same robots will put it together, programmed from the same CAD files, and everything will undergo identical checks. Craftmanship only comes into bespoke products in the 21st century, that exactly the reason why large companies search for cheap labour - they produce the same product from the same materials for a lot less pay. Anything else is pure logical fallacy.

Possibly, but then again, would you really see an improvement if they shifted back to Japan? They'd only go through exactly the same robotised processes, only with different nationalities supervising them. Anything about build quality being down to the nationalities of workers is anywhere from extremely naive to borderline racist.

If you actually believe that 2 cars built in different countries are exactly the same quality wise, sorry to say but you are the one being naive in my opinion. If that was the case then why such a difference in cost depending on which country the car is built? Why don't every manufacturer build their cars in Germany if cost and quality were relatively the same?

Wrong & already explained why.

The Lexus RX from Fukuoka & the Lexus RX from Ontario are built & held to the same standards. I have personally seen & had more than enough time to experience both; there are zero differences.

FYI I drive a Lexus right now, from Japan... The RX was initially made in Japan but it started being built in the US the same time the ES did. Those cars are based on the Camry so it would make sense to build the RX and now the NX here in the States.

I owned made cars so far, all of them true Japanese cars. I know from experience the cars from Japan are better built then the ones from here. Not being prejudiced towards US built products, they're good, just not better the JDM imho
 
If that was the case then why such a difference in cost depending on which country the car is built?
You answered it yourself.
By hiring cheaper labor.
Everything is still the same. You just can't quite seem to grasp that.
Why don't every manufacturer build their cars in Germany if cost and quality were relatively the same?
Because:
hsv
workforce availability and also shipping logistics.
It may not suit the needs of the manufacturer, or there might simply be a gap elsewhere in another economy.
Not being prejudiced towards US built products, they're good, just not better the JDM imho
It's either pot luck or placebo.
 
People also forget one of the main reasons Japanese manufacturers tend to build cars here is to shorten both the supply chain. Many components for cars all around the world are made in the US. You also have to factor in the cost of shipping many thousands of cars across the Pacific nearly continously, which is NOT cheap.

Also I'm pretty sure labor in the US isn't much, if any cheaper than in Japan...
 
hsv
You answered it yourself.

Everything is still the same. You just can't quite seem to grasp that

It's either pot luck or placebo.

Sorry but you're not making sense to me now. Regardless for those that believe that cars made in different countries are the same quality go ahead and think that... I'm not the one blowing my hard earned money on a car that I don't trust its built quality
 
Sorry but you're not making sense to me now.
Everyone's made it clear as day several times, so I have no idea where you're getting lost.
Regardless for those that believe that cars made in different countries are the same quality go ahead and think that...
Could you actually form a conceivable counter-argument to what's already been said on why that's the case, or are you just going to keep saying it over and over?
I'm not the one blowing my hard earned money on a car that I don't trust its built quality
Your unfounded quality paranoia has nothing to do with us.
 
hsv
Everyone's made it clear as day several times, so I have no idea where you're getting lost.

Could you actually form a conceivable counter-argument to what's already been said on why that's the case, or are you just going to keep saying it over and over?

Your unfounded quality paranoia has nothing to do with us.

Getting upset much? Let me guess, I offended your car? :lol:

Why don't you come up with something proving me wrong instead of just dissecting my posts sentence by sentence? I'm giving my opinion here and unless you work in the auto manufacturing sector so are you
 
You don't even specify exactly where the actual difference is (if there is any), you just believe it. And then call someone naïve for not believing what you believe.
 
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