The Words of the Winds are Now all Clear

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So, Amar... after the OPM magazines become public, will you be allowed to do some more baking for us? :lol:
 
I went and translated that quote. :cool: To Nfinity, you're new here so best advice is to sit and watch what Amar says because it's quite amazing how correct he has been over the years due to his inside knowledge of the GT World. :)

I'm waiting to see which wind blows correctly next. I have a weird feeling that the winds are going to be all over the place (6,2,3,5,4,1 for example). :P
 
Based on Amar's original post I am still betting on a 12/1/2009 worldwide launch. It is two months after the PSP GT Mobile launch and is a Tuesday. Tuesday is the traditional street date/ship date in the U.S. I know this may not be the case in the rest of the world. It fits the original riddle and fits with the announced PSP title and cross compatability. Though most people think E3 would have been the place to announce GT5 I disagree. TGS is the likely venue. In some people's eyes this doesn't give enough "hype" time for GT5. GT5 does not need any hype.

So, my prediction? TGS, GT5 80gb or 160gb bundle, same price as current PS3 (so game for free essentially), release date 12/1/09. I think that would put a few PS3's and PSP Go's under the Christmas tree (or whatever tree you personally have in December).
 
I can't see them bundling this game right away, this game is going to sell a ton of copies, why would they give it away for free or at a much reduced cost.
 
My friend made a joke today and i have to simle a bit... I was angry about that GT5 takes 5 years and he told me "yeah that´s why it called GT5 💡

He don´t really knows the GT series so he sayed that but that was a bit funny to me :ouch:

So GT6 will take 6 years? :D
 
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torontoml
I can't see them bundling this game right away, this game is going to sell a ton of copies, why would they give it away for free or at a much reduced cost.
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Sony needs to sell more PS3's. Of course they'll bundle it. And because it will sell so well on it's own of course they can afford to give a few away.
 
ThunderGod
Based on Amar's original post I am still betting on a 12/1/2009 worldwide launch. It is two months after the PSP GT Mobile launch and is a Tuesday. Tuesday is the traditional street date/ship date in the U.S. I know this may not be the case in the rest of the world. It fits the original riddle and fits with the announced PSP title and cross compatability. Though most people think E3 would have been the place to announce GT5 I disagree. TGS is the likely venue. In some people's eyes this doesn't give enough "hype" time for GT5. GT5 does not need any hype.

So, my prediction? TGS, GT5 80gb or 160gb bundle, same price as current PS3 (so game for free essentially), release date 12/1/09. I think that would put a few PS3's and PSP Go's under the Christmas tree (or whatever tree you personally have in December).
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First I love the "according to Amar's post" line. It's open to interpretation and there have been plenty different ones. Personally I think 2/16/2010 will be the date as it's exactly 11 months from when Amar made his post.

Second, I think there will be a bundle but it won't be free. It will probably be 40-50 more than a regular PS3 model.
 
torontoml
I can't see them bundling this game right away, this game is going to sell a ton of copies, why would they give it away for free or at a much reduced cost.
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I think many people are holding on buying a ps3 because they are waiting on GT5 to be released. And this kind of bundle is a great choice :) It is VERY likely that we will get a bundle in my honest opinion, because it will sell very well.
 
hornet_burnout
Thanks. So it's in no way reliable. Sorry to bring that up again :ouch:
Still think it's a good date, maybe it'll happen...
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Indeed, maybe it will. Maybe it won't. Until Sony say, we can't say for sure and, frankly, until the game is in the hands of at least ONE GTPer, we still can't say for sure given the previous reliability with regards to actually releasing the games :lol:
 
You DO realise you just posted the same thing posted 7 posts ago, that we've been discussing in the intervening posts?
 
I feel if its not out close to the release of Forza 3, preferably before, many who have sat on the fence & not made the jump from their last Gen console might go Xbox. I believe Sony need GT5 to help sell more Ps3's along with a price cut. Activision recently started threatening to pull out development of future titles for the Playstaion 3. Its well known its a more time consuming process programming for PS3, how many other software houses are also considering it. With it being cheaper to develop for 360 with better rewards, at a time where everyone is trying to reduce costs?
 
Famine
You DO realise you just posted the same thing posted 7 posts ago, that we've been discussing in the intervening posts?
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yes I do...
how could you know who I was talking about with no quotations? :)
 
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I feel if its not out close to the release of Forza 3, preferably before, many who have sat on the fence & not made the jump from their last Gen console might go Xbox. I believe Sony need GT5 to help sell more Ps3's along with a price cut. Activision recently started threatening to pull out development of future titles for the Playstaion 3. Its well known its a more time consuming process programming for PS3, how many other software houses are also considering it. With it being cheaper to develop for 360 with better rewards, at a time where everyone is trying to reduce costs?
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Well... there is a portuguese saying that says something like doing it quickly and well is near impossible. So I'd rather wait for the harder, slower, more expensive development and get the best. Let us just wait it still is. We do have high expectations...
 
So, Amar... I know you said at NeoGAF that the cars are still on the course. Are we going to get to a rest stop within a month or so where we can get another weather report, or menu about the feast? :lol:

Like many of you, I'm not real fond of SONY's advertising style. They really need a kick in the pants to get on with some Ms style viral marketing. I know I see SONY VAIO laptops in many commercials and shows, along with the dreaded Macbook, but that's actually a cool thing. But it's hard to get away from all the ads for Ms crap, like now "bing" is the new buzz item. Whatever, but SONY needs to adopt this strategy as well. The PS3 really is the ultimate game machine, and we know has the ultimate games, and the world needs to be shown this throughout the day.

But for GT5, I'm much more content with the status quo we have now. I'm sure many of you would want to shake me and try to snap me out of some fanboy daze, but hear me out.

First, because of this smothering blanket of secrecy, we don't know when GT5 will be released. It really could be September for all we know, or March 2010, or any time. But any delay is actually a positive, which brings me to

Second, the secrecy surrounding GT5 is actually a good thing. Just remember in 2006 when every 360 fanboy was saying GEARS! proved that the 360 was the ultimate system? I (not entirely) politely disagreed, because I'm not a fan of the Unreal Engine and Gears is rife will all the UE3 defects. Suddenly from nowhere came news that GT HD would be available for FREE on Christmas, and was actually out on Christmas Eve for most of us. And even with one car on one track, it was a blast. But what was sweeter was listening to all the 360 fanz grousing about it, how it couldn't be REAL HD, how GT5 would be lucky to have two cars at that resolution, wouldn't look anything like that, yadda yadda. And most of us just smiled.

Then we got teasers that GT5 Prologue was in development, and for many months we got squat on it. And we complained. And then we got a new trailer which excited us... especially when a certain red car with a horse logo appeared at the end. Oh man, did we go crazy. And then in a few weeks we grouched again because we knew nothing. Till a few weeks later, when we got a few alluring screengrabs of a few choice cars like the Audi R8. We couldn't see more than five or six cars on track at once, and the 360 fanz joked that GT5 would be stuck with the same old six car races to get the graphics to the level in the screencaps. And there was a trailer prior to a stripped down E3 and we saw a whopping SIXTEEN cars on track at once! Oh man, did we go crazy, and for those of us outside Japan, we begged and pleaded and even threatened stuff for Prologue to be released over here. Even though we found out it would, many of us imported Prologue in order to enjoy it a few months early. Oh man, did we go crazy.

And then the real drought of information happened, and we got nothing of GT5 itself, just occasional interviews from Kazunori when he mentioned that GT5 was on course, and hoped to get it out as soon as possible. He said damage and weather were being worked on, and he hoped he could get it into Prologue if GT5 is delayed. But the wait for news grew to almost a year, especially with almost no mention at E3 2008, and some of us began to really get cranky.

Then along came Amar with two cryptic posts, which really got us excited at the prospect of GT5 coming out by March 2010 at the latest... allowing for a delay. ;) Of course then some of you continued to complain after a week or less, even with E3 looming, and when the SONY conference came on, and it went on and ON with no mention of GT5, just Mobile, some began to lose hope yet again. Till a huge trailer exploded onto the screen at the very end which had everyone's jaws dropping. Oh man, did we go crazy.

For about a week, if that. Now many of us are ready to write off GT5 for the umpteenth time, even though we have quite a history of Polyphony dropping bombs on us out of the blue in prelude to something big. Why waiting is a good thing: look at what Kaz is trying to give us in GT5.
  • Massive Online features, such as Club and League builders, and race event creators.
  • Modular customization with racing body kits.
  • Livery editor.
  • Day and night cycles, and variable weather.
  • Realistic damage - VERY hard, considering the large number of car makers involved.
  • LOTS of cars, LOTS of tracks.
  • Possible Season and a true Career Mode.
  • Working reverse lights. :lol:
  • Stuff we might not suspect.
Just think of how the WRC and NASCAR licenses caught us all completely off guard. Is some of that easy to accomplish? Yes, some. Many of us would be happy if Kaz and the lads wrapped up what they have now with Prologue quality graphics, say 500 cars and 75 tracks, full online capacity and a game structure similar to GT4. No damage, no race mod, no livery painter, no weather, just the same Gran Turismo we know and love with up to 16 cars on track online. Save the other goodies for GT6 in a couple of years. I would be disappointed, but I wouldn't complain too much because I'd be too busy having fun with the rest of you.

But then, there's the matter of pride lost to Ms over forza. Fm3 would probably be a much smaller game in comparison, but just think how the 360 fanz would laugh at GT5 in such a state, basically GT4 with better physics, graphics, and more cars on track. How the media would react. How buyers might react. Instead of a huge PS3 and FFB wheel seller, how many would be lured to fm3 with damage, race modding and livery editing? Oh, and "do over" rewind? :lol: Or NFS Shift, assuming it's the sim EA insists it is?

Some of you also think "DLC would fix all that," but I have a huge warning about that idea. Fm2 had bugs, a LOT of bugs. They had to patch it several times already just to fix physics issues with cars unfairly performing on leaderboards. Car models were wrong. The Nurb was wrongly modeled. The livery editor produced layers that would shift around during races, and more each race. Scrolling through the garage or auction house too much would crash the 360, and if you crashed or disconnected in the auction house, it could get you banned from Live. Those were never fixed. Also, remember how many patches on PC software worked perfectly. How many times patches had to be reinstalled, or the patches themselves patched. Patched software is seldom as stable as programs coded right to start with, and even one patch, damage, weather, race mod and livery editor for instance, just one of those could be huge, more than a gigabyte or more. Remember how many of us struggled with downloads of Prologue or R&C Quest for Booty, how many tries it could take to get one to succeed. And if you don't have broadband, you'd better hope there's a Blu-ray patch available.

Damage, weather, day and night changes, these aren't so easy. Modeling 800 cars and up to 100 tracks isn't easy. Designing the game so that all downloadable content works seamlessly for online as well as offline gameplay isn't easy. The secrecy surrounding GT5 is kind of aggravating, but it's also a huge hint that the game is going to offer us some very special things. Just imagine how we would all react if it had everything we wanted and then some. I don't know if that would suit some of you, but for this kind of content, I'd wait as long as it took Kazunori to make Gran Turismo 5 the best racing game ever.

And I'm typing this nekkid, so there. :D
 
I have no trouble with how long GT5 has taken to come out but what I do have trouble with is the roll out of "news". We really should not have to rely on secret insiders for information. I still do not get what is stopping PD from revealing a new car every month on the PS Blog until GT5 releases. If GT5 came out in March 2010 that would be only be 9 cars. Hell they could do a car every week and there would still be a ton of content left to surprise us on release.
 
And what if all of those promises don't come as intended? I am as hyped about GT as anyone, because to me this series is more than just a game. I don't want to be disappointed, as this is just getting ridiculous. Very ridiculous.
I am optimistic however, PD never let down (in a big and important way), so why should they start now?
 
I have no problem waiting on GT5 anymore. It's kinda like a legend now, that may or may not happen. With forza 3 looking as good as it does, I won't need GT5 until later next year. I imagine I'll get a good year out of forza 3. So let PD take as long as they want. With forza 3, Ncaa football, the new madden online franchise, socom, and the ufc game. I'm really not in a hurry at all anymore. If GT5 happens it happens, but I'm certainly not holding my breath anymore, and I'm not going to try and guess what features they will implement. I'm sure it's going to be a great game, and I'm sure it will come later then we think. Maybe christmas time next year. I hope not, but that's what will probably happen.
 
Right now, from as neutral a stand point as possible, NFS Shift actually look's more exciting than both GT5 and Forza 3, so far the only genuine excitment from GT5 is the WRC license and Subaru Impreza WRC damage.

NFS Shift's car selection and more gritty graphical style are more appealling than the same old Super GT car's PD have been trotting out for year's.

I know it's a different, more limited project, but even GT Mobile has offered nothing new apart from a Ferrari Enzo in amongst the GT4 regular's.

Were's the excitement PD, much of what has been seen so for is stale and predictable.
 

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