The WTC 600 in Tokyo done without exploits is genuinely one of the hardest races in single player in gt7 - share your setups, tips, and cars

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Tried de tomaso pantera today. What a missile!
Fast, stable and very good on fuel.

Yeah, the Pantera is fantastic and a joy to drive, it’s one of the few cars on this track and game that surprised me and massively exceeded my expectations. It doesn’t drive like most of the other older road cars.
 
Can you share the tune please?
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Bought the f40 from the lcd. Excited because f40 was the most wanted car from the lcd. Went on a run in tokyo wtc 600 tunning it only with "swap in swap out" parts.
Dissapointing is the best word to describe its performance.
The car handles amazing, and it has great top speed. But its turbo lag and the "not that great" fuel economy are a performance killer.
Ferrari f50 and ferrari enzo outperform the ferrari f40 in this race
 
Ok, I can confirm the rotary equipped Miata can be a winner on Tokyo. :D Thank you @The_It_Jojo for sharing your setup which makes the car very competitive in this race. Reaching 320 km/h on the straight is truly insane, it's a bit scary though too and I have to admit I tweaked the setup to my liking by reducing power while increasing downforce ... simply trying to stop that bugger from behaving like a pinball ( in my hands ) through some sectors. :lol:
2.09 laps are definitely possible ( s. attachment ), I was on the way to a 2.08 but I messed up the braking for the final hairpin.

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I know it can't be that bad to drive as I am always finishing 2nd to you in all of the license tests and missions on my friends list. Some day I might be able to finish .001 ahead of one of your times. :)
 
Bought the f40 from the lcd. Excited because f40 was the most wanted car from the lcd. Went on a run in tokyo wtc 600 tunning it only with "swap in swap out" parts.
Dissapointing is the best word to describe its performance.
The car handles amazing, and it has great top speed. But its turbo lag and the "not that great" fuel economy are a performance killer.
Ferrari f50 and ferrari enzo outperform the ferrari f40 in this race
I went with everything stock as is; power restricted to 599,95 PP. Fuel lasted for 7 to 8 laps, new sports hard tires when refueling. Got lap times 2.13 - 2.16. Ended up winning with 20 seconds to spare. For me, the car performed great.
 
Yesterday there were no reviews because I was too busy getting a sunburn, but now I have two ready:

VR38DETT swapped Lancia Delta: the king of rally

This car was quite surprising to drive for some aspects I didn't think about before trying it, but I'll go in order:
First of all, this car needs a slight bit of detuning - I had to reduce the horsepower from 600 to 552 to fit the 600pp requirement via a power limiter; as you could imagine, that was still more than enough power, so I could reach 320 km/h easily down the main straight, faster than even Suswillobot's GT-R (Ironically enough, that's pretty much the same engine I'm using on my car, lol), so you can rest assured, this car's amazing. You'll need a customizable transmission, though, since with the stock one you'll top at some pretty low speeds otherwise.
Handling wise, I had a surprise - I could really feel the extra weight added by the engine swap in the understeer, which was surprising to say the least, and nice to see it being accounted for in the handling. Speaking of which, I recommend buying a torque vectoring differential (and set it to 30/70), since you need to be sure to put most of those 552hp on the rear tyres. Once you do, however, you'll have a car that will handle in a very precise way, with no massive understeer nor oversteer - though it's not as good as the GTO's, for example.
You are going to need sports brakes, though, since otherwise... yeah, good luck without them, the stock 90's brakes won't save you at all.

Economy wise, fuel lasts for 7 laps (1 more than Suswillobot with the same engine, so that's good ig), and surprisingly, despite AWD and the ridiculous amount of power, tyres are good, you are not going to suffer from any noticeable performance drop throughout the race, which was surprising to me. I'm not complaining, though.

Lap times are also good - 2:09.8 is nothing to scoff at in terms of lap times, with your average being 2:10s once the track dries. So, there is yet another entry to the 2:09 club.

Final thoughts: if you have a VR38DETT lying around (I know you do), put it into a Lancia, trust me, you are not going to regret it.

LT swapped ND Miata: can't really say because of an exploit

To explain more in detail about the title, I found a bug (if I see someone saying "glitch" I'm going to crush your skull with my thighs, I swear), which consists in putting a custom transmission in a LT swapped Miata, it will somehow reduce pp by 30, allowing you to pack it with more power, better brakes, etc. So, for the sake of this review, keep that in mind.

Because of this unwanted exploit I've found, this car's performance is bonkers - 325 km/h of top speed down the main straight. I was also able to put racing brakes on the car and thus be able to break relatively late, and with a low weight of just 1100 kg, it will turn around with ease, so, yeah, this car is pretty fast all around.

Economy, well, not so much: with the C7 Corvette, the LT engine with a full fuel tank would allow me to do around 8 laps without problems, and with this one I had to stop at lap 7, so one less lap of fuel (because of the upgrades I put on the engine due to the transmission bug), and as for tyres... well, the car has a very happy tail, so my rear tyres were gone Bono, you are going to struggle because of the Miata's stock setup + its short wheelbase. So, yeah, you are going to struggle on both.

Lap times wise, because I was able to pack so much power, good brakes and other stuff in, this car is capable of doing 2:06s and go below the 27 minutes wall for the whole race - though, without the pp bug, I'd expect this car to be a 2:09/maybe a 2:10 around Tokyo.

Final thoughts: can't say for sure, but until the exploit is available, this car is going to be fast around here.

Thank you for reading my reviews today too, I hope you enjoyed the read and got some inspiration if you had trouble finishing this race. I wish you all a good day, and if you have any request for a car you'd like to see me try, feel free to ask in the comments or in DMs, I'll try my best with that car around this race. Peace✌️
 
Yesterday there were no reviews because I was too busy getting a sunburn, but now I have two ready:

VR38DETT swapped Lancia Delta: the king of rally

This car was quite surprising to drive for some aspects I didn't think about before trying it, but I'll go in order:
First of all, this car needs a slight bit of detuning - I had to reduce the horsepower from 600 to 552 to fit the 600pp requirement via a power limiter; as you could imagine, that was still more than enough power, so I could reach 320 km/h easily down the main straight, faster than even Suswillobot's GT-R (Ironically enough, that's pretty much the same engine I'm using on my car, lol), so you can rest assured, this car's amazing. You'll need a customizable transmission, though, since with the stock one you'll top at some pretty low speeds otherwise.
Handling wise, I had a surprise - I could really feel the extra weight added by the engine swap in the understeer, which was surprising to say the least, and nice to see it being accounted for in the handling. Speaking of which, I recommend buying a torque vectoring differential (and set it to 30/70), since you need to be sure to put most of those 552hp on the rear tyres. Once you do, however, you'll have a car that will handle in a very precise way, with no massive understeer nor oversteer - though it's not as good as the GTO's, for example.
You are going to need sports brakes, though, since otherwise... yeah, good luck without them, the stock 90's brakes won't save you at all.

Economy wise, fuel lasts for 7 laps (1 more than Suswillobot with the same engine, so that's good ig), and surprisingly, despite AWD and the ridiculous amount of power, tyres are good, you are not going to suffer from any noticeable performance drop throughout the race, which was surprising to me. I'm not complaining, though.

Lap times are also good - 2:09.8 is nothing to scoff at in terms of lap times, with your average being 2:10s once the track dries. So, there is yet another entry to the 2:09 club.

Final thoughts: if you have a VR38DETT lying around (I know you do), put it into a Lancia, trust me, you are not going to regret it.

LT swapped ND Miata: can't really say because of an exploit

To explain more in detail about the title, I found a bug (if I see someone saying "glitch" I'm going to crush your skull with my thighs, I swear), which consists in putting a custom transmission in a LT swapped Miata, it will somehow reduce pp by 30, allowing you to pack it with more power, better brakes, etc. So, for the sake of this review, keep that in mind.

Because of this unwanted exploit I've found, this car's performance is bonkers - 325 km/h of top speed down the main straight. I was also able to put racing brakes on the car and thus be able to break relatively late, and with a low weight of just 1100 kg, it will turn around with ease, so, yeah, this car is pretty fast all around.

Economy, well, not so much: with the C7 Corvette, the LT engine with a full fuel tank would allow me to do around 8 laps without problems, and with this one I had to stop at lap 7, so one less lap of fuel (because of the upgrades I put on the engine due to the transmission bug), and as for tyres... well, the car has a very happy tail, so my rear tyres were gone Bono, you are going to struggle because of the Miata's stock setup + its short wheelbase. So, yeah, you are going to struggle on both.

Lap times wise, because I was able to pack so much power, good brakes and other stuff in, this car is capable of doing 2:06s and go below the 27 minutes wall for the whole race - though, without the pp bug, I'd expect this car to be a 2:09/maybe a 2:10 around Tokyo.

Final thoughts: can't say for sure, but until the exploit is available, this car is going to be fast around here.

Thank you for reading my reviews today too, I hope you enjoyed the read and got some inspiration if you had trouble finishing this race. I wish you all a good day, and if you have any request for a car you'd like to see me try, feel free to ask in the comments or in DMs, I'll try my best with that car around this race. Peace✌️
Would you be able to post your setup for the Delta? I’ve got mine at 599 but the handling isn’t the best…
 
Also, the transmission is fully customizable: manual instead of racing fully customizable, only thing I did to it was putting it at a top speed of 350 km/h without changing the single gears.
 
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Today I have two surprises and one not so surprising but still good car.

Coyote swapped Mustang Mach 1: well, ain't this a weird, nice fella?

So, if you remember, some times ago when I tried a Corvette C3 coupé, I said "avoid old cars like the plague". Well, guess I was an idiot, since this old car drives pretty well:
So, first of all, the Coyote will need a bit of an help to reach its maximum power, that means, you need to put bolt-on mods on it to have it reach its peak; you will also need a fully custom transmission because otherwise you'll top out at 220 km/h (good old classic 70's American transmissions, crap like always), but it will top out at 307 km/h if you reach 503 horsepower and a custom transmission, trust me.
Handling wise, you can put it on a diet with weight reduction 1 and the weight saved by engine swapping (yes, the Coyote is lighter than the stock engine), so this car, surprisingly for a 70s muscle car, and a Mustang too, can turn! The steering wheel is not there just for decoration, shockingly amazing, I know, making this car good at handling. This was the biggest surprises of all, ngl.
Now, as for the brakes... you need at least sports brakes, otherwise you are going to kiss Barry R. very passionately too, since stock brakes are what you'd expect from the 70's: absolute crap. But if you have good brakes, well, you are going to be safer all around.

Economy wise, despite being an American muscle, it's good. Fuel lasts for 8 laps at FM1 without problems (I suppose that's because you also inherit the 2015 Mustang fuel tank, otherwise I can't explain it), making this ride a comfortable cruise around Tokyo. You are also not going to have problems on tyres, again, very surprisingly, I was expecting this Coyote to be harder daddy on tyres, so, not bad, not bad at all. It's good, all around.

Lap times, it's not the fastest, but not the slowest either with a 2:10.3, making this car almost a 2:09 boi. I guess that you may find a tune which makes this car a 2:09, but I haven't thus far, so that's where I am rn.

Final thoughts: very good car, recommended.

P65B44 swapped M3 E46: unsurprisingly fast

To the surprise of absolutely no soul on earth, this car is fast, despite being the heaviest I've tried, but let's go in order:
First thing first, this car tops with ease at around 310 km/h, with also a pretty good handling on fast corners, despite its heavy weight, while on slower ones... well, you are going to have some problems, though they are a few and manageable.
Stock brakes are good, you won't need to upgrade them, which means, you are good to go even with them and still feel safe under braking. Overall, good performance from this car.

Now, onto the economy, I'm way more convinced that you also inherit the fuel tank along with the engine once you swap it, since fuel could have lasted for 13 laps at FM1 pushing for the whole race. Tyres however... well, you are going to notice a drop in performance so you'll need to pit at lap 9 to get some fresh ones. It's a bit rough on the rear ones, but you should be able to manage tyre wear if you go with hards and go overall with a no stopper very easily.

Lap times wise, we have another 2:09 car with a 2:09.8 lap time as my best one, though with more practice I'm convinced I could go faster. Still, this is a car that can go faster than 27 minutes overall for the race, so, hey, it's fast.

Final thoughts: 100% worth engine swap, you won't regret it.

3UZ swapped Toyota Crown: the difference is in the differential

So, the first time I reviewed this car, I said its differential was so open it makes a 24/7 store look like it was closed. Well, I was wrong, there wasn't a differential to begin with, so I slapped one in along a 3UZ engine.
Yet, that didn't improve the car's performance by much, it's still as slidy as I remember (I could tune the diff but that would mess with the pp and oh God why does setup affect the pp, please PD) and as slow on the straight despite the new engine, topping at barely over 290 km/h and no grip whatsoever. At least wheelspin is fixed, so ig that's good.

Economy wise, it's even worse than the M3 on tyres, fresh ones felt like drinking cold water after a very hot day, I know how both feel. Fuel wise, this one definitely inherited the SC430 fuel tank since I had enough fuel for 18 laps. Yes, it's this ridiculous, though I don't recommend to use this car for a no stopper since it has no rear grip. But if you can bear it... you are going to be good.

Lap times are still crap, but better - 2:11.3 is ok, but still kind of meh especially compared with the other two, though overall I wouldn't recommend this car at all unless you have some spare 3UZ lying around.

Final thoughts: still meh but at least it's a better meh. Still not recommended though.

Thank you once again for reading my reviews, I genuinely have fun making and writing those, if you have a request of a car you'd like to see being thrown around Tokyo, feel free to ask, I will do my best to drive them as fast as I can for a review and make them justice. I also have some interesting entries planned for tomorrow, so stay tuned.

Have a nice day, stay safe, and until next time, peace ✌️
 
Been running my MINI Challenge ‘05 Custom Races and decide to use one for this event. It’s already at PP 600.22 on RH. Just detuned the ECU from 276BHP to 272BHP. No stop. Finished P3 with 300k Cr. Juuuusst a lil bit of blocking on this run to the line. :lol::sly:
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Another addition to Tricky Vic’s No Stop Hero’s of Tokyo and Tomahawk notwithstanding, the most powerful one too. :P

Front tyre wear was an issue as the track dried out so I did have to extend the points where I started braking and also braking less aggressively to not over stress the front tyres.
 
So far best for me is the tuned 2J , also a tip if you use a FM6 with it , it's more "stable"
and you can do No pit stop race - in the end it can be more sliding but fun :D

I do want to use Alpine Race Car but i don't have it yet...
 
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Thanks, I've just been playing about with the Veneno with the front end jacked up. It's a bit silly, these are exploit tunes, really, as the PP jumps up around 14 points if I change some of my parameters just one click. I just did 26:05 with a 2:02.8 fastest lap, and that was with a 5 second penalty and I lost a few seconds running out of fuel at the end. My setup differed from yours in that I have full weight reduction, and then I added ballast. I had 940bhp and 1322kg vs your 1453kg. I think my setup can probably be improved some more, so I won't post it yet, I'll wait till I've done more experimenting. One thing you might like to try is set the front arb to the min, and the rear to the max, that's what I did as I feel like understeer is the biggest problem.
 
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Thanks, I've just been playing about with the Veneno with the front end jacked up. It's a bit silly, these are exploit tunes, really, as the PP jumps up around 14 points if I change some of my parameters just one click. I just did 26:05 with a 2:02.8 fastest lap, and that was with a 5 second penalty and I lost a few seconds running out of fuel at the end. My setup differed from yours in that I have full weight reduction, and then I added ballast. I had 940bhp and 1322kg vs your 1453kg. I think my setup can probably be improved some more, so I won't post it yet, I'll wait till I've done more experimenting. One thing you might like to try is set the front arb to the min, and the rear to the max, that's what I did as I feel like understeer is the biggest problem.
will try. i stopped using veneno for a long time as i dont stick to one car.
 
So, these two reviews will be some "budget" ones, as in, the cars used are quite cheap and can be used without massive investments of money to get a huge payout:

SR20 swapped Silvia S13: veta gallina bonum ius facit (this is Latin for "Old chicken makes for good soup")

This is an interesting car I enjoyed to drive for more reasons, but I'll go in order:
The first thing I'd like to talk about is top speed, with the best I hit being 309 km/h, confirming the fact the SR20 is indeed a very good engine to use in any car (please PD let us swap it in more cars, I beg you) and very easy to tune, even if it only makes 440 horsepower;
second of all, handling wise this car is very precise with stock setups, despite the more powerful engine, making it very enjoyable to drive - while it's not the best, it's not the worst either, and honestly, I liked it, this is a 10/10 for me. I have no complaints whatsoever about handling since, while it's not the best, it doesn't have flaws either.

Economy wise, this car is good here too, with 8 laps worth of fuel (9 with a very little amount of fuel saving), despite the aftermarket turbocharger I put on it, making this engine naturally nice.
And since it's very stable, you don't waste rubber leaving on the asphalt, so tyre wear is good - I had no issues whatsoever with them, you could go with them until the end. I think. Not sure but they were good nonetheless.

Lap times are not impressive, but you will be able to be very consistent with them, with the best one being a 2:10.1 (can we get a F for this car not being in the 2:09 club?) and just over 27 minutes of overall time for the race. Not bad, if I say so myself, I must say.

Final thoughts: very consistent car, not the fastest one but I really enjoyed driving it. If you haven't already give it a try.

Lancer EVO IV: it seems the EVOs all share the same issues

As the title says, I felt like this car behaves very similarly to the EVO VI T.M. I tried some time ago, but I'll go on every step one by one:
First of all, top sped is... low, topping at barely over 290 km/h, making this car quite average in that regard and very similar to the EVO VI, so, if you are looking for raw speed, don't use this car.
Handling wise, it's understeery, again, just like the EVO VI; you will probably need a better suspension setup, along with a fully custom LSD, and also maybe a central torque vectoring system so you can put more power on the rear wheels = more oversteer, but I'm digressing. With the current pp system and calculation, you can't really afford to spend some pp on setup since otherwise you wouldn't have enough power, so this car is stuck between a rock and a hard place in that regards.

On a more positive note, this car is very good on economy, with 9 whole laps of fuel and no huge performance loss when tyres wear out, it's very manageable in both aspects: if you wanted to, if you were to go on FM 3 or 4 for the technical section, you could run a no stopper, though this car wouldn't be my first choice for a no stopper run. Still, it could do it without big problems.

Lap times... uh, this car is slow, with my best being a 2:11.2 at the end of the race - I could maybe go faster, but I'm not too sure tbf - either way, its overall time was a 27:22, so... yeah, it's not really a car that can finish the race quickly.

Final thougths: thus far, the best Mitsubish I've tried is the GTO, and the EVO IV did nothing to dethrone it, I think the EVO may lose the competition with it.

Yet again, thank you all very kindly for reading my reviews, if you have a (reasonable) car you'd like to see me drive, feel free to ask, I'm always curious to see different veichles being tested and compare their performance. Thank you again for dedicating some of your time to read this, and I shall see you next time. Peace✌️
 
Did this in the F40 today. No power mods and stock suspension.

  • Racing Brakes (Drilled)
  • Customisable Diff (to tune out the oversteer)
  • Racing Transmission (unadjusted)

And most importantly:

  • Ballast (circa 160KG, -50 to the front)

Ballast transforms the car completely. Default, its OK running time trial laps with but when you're fighting and racing it's a bit of a handful. The Ballast balances the car out, it literally flies through the sweeping bends on Tokyo with excellent stability and is capable of 200MPH on the straight. Simple 1 stop strategy using SH - pit at the end of lap 7 for 5 laps of fuel and coast home. Tyre wear is a non factor - it sticks in the first couple of laps like it does in the last couple (my fastest lap was 12), Racing Brakes are vital (IMO) and the Diff keeps the car taut coming out of the corners.

Didn't rival the 2:06s or anything like that, but an easy win by over 20 seconds in a car that is essentially stock but heavier.
 
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