The Xbox One Thread - One X & One SXBOne

[I'm Motarded]

I'm motarded Microsoft made a lot of noise about this cloud system and then only 1 game uses it? It wasn't claimed every game would use it but I'm sure it wasn't claimed only 1 game would use it.

It's one game, but it's also only the first month since the consoles release. I'm sure once there are more games that will make proper use of those types of servers, we will see them.

What really gets me is the crappy reporting the media is doing since last generation. It's mostly just Chinese whispers. I mean, the N4G article links to a Neogaf thread, which is mostly just people reporting back antidotal evidence on which games are/aren't using dedicated servers. And it turns out they couldn't even be bothered to read the whole thread, because this is in there. So it isn't just one game. Why didn't they report that? Obvious answer is obvious, everyone knows they are Playstation bias, they don't even try to hide it.

@Saidur_Ali it's probably a good thing every game isn't using dedi's for that reason, it's best reserved for games that are guaranteed regular sequels and games that P2P doesn't have adverse affects on. That way the devs don't have to worry about the backlash of the 20 fans still playing after the severs being shut down. I agree the cloud processing benefits MS were preaching about so much is BS, unless they can prove otherwise, until then it's just meaningless words and flawed promotion.

 

[bevo]

Forza 5 is the only X1 game that uses dedicated servers.

What about battlefield? It's all dedicated servers isn't it?

 

[CAMAROBOY69]

Forza 5 is the only X1 game that uses dedicated servers.

False information.

What about battlefield? It's all dedicated servers isn't it?

Yes BF4 is ALL dedicated servers even on the PS3, PS4, 360 and X1. EVERY multiplayer game on the X1 is supposed to be on dedicated servers. Ghosts should also be running on dedicated servers. How about Dead Rising 3? Its a co-op so it should also be on dedicated servers. If we include F4 that would make at least 4 games. I posted a question in the Ghosts and DR3 threads to find out.

 

[bevo]

False information.


Yes BF4 is ALL dedicated servers even on the PS3, PS4, 360 and X1. EVERY multiplayer game on the X1 is supposed to be on dedicated servers. Ghosts should also be running on dedicated servers. How about Dead Rising 3? Its a co-op so it should also be on dedicated servers. If we include F4 that would make at least 4 games. I posted a question in the Ghosts and DR3 threads to find out.

Ghosts is running a hybrid version. It's not all dedicated servers. It's some times your on dedicated sometimes your on listen servers(whatever that is). http://mp1st.com/2013/11/22/call-du...larifies-hybrid-online-services/#.UrOaYHi9LCQ

 

[CAMAROBOY69]

Ghosts is running a hybrid version. It's not all dedicated servers. It's some times your on dedicated sometimes your on listen servers(whatever that is). http://mp1st.com/2013/11/22/call-du...larifies-hybrid-online-services/#.UrOaYHi9LCQ

Thanks for the heads up. That's what I have been finding out too. Gears Of War 3 did something similar to that. Sometimes you were on dedicated servers, sometimes host to host. Lets hope that by the time I get the X1, most of the games are on dedicated servers. Because that truly is the top selling point for me.

 

[mister dog]

You gentlemen have an estimate when the Xbone will have it's first pricedrop from launch price? I haven't followed the evolution of the 360's price as i was a late entry in 2012, so i don't know if it would take a long time for MS to drop the price of the xbone to 300-400 bucks?

Would be fantastic if it would be around the time PCARS comes out next fall 👍

 

[CAMAROBOY69]

You gentlemen have an estimate when the Xbone will have it's first pricedrop from launch price? I haven't followed the evolution of the 360's price as i was a late entry in 2012, so i don't know if it would take a long time for MS to drop the price of the xbone to 300-400 bucks?

Would be fantastic if it would be around the time PCARS comes out next fall 👍

http://news.xbox.com/2014/01/xbox-one-january-thank-you

Considering the X1 already sold over 3 million by the end of 2013, and is only selling to 13 countries, I don't see a price drop coming any time soon. It is selling VERY well. If this system was sold worldwide the sales would have been insane. I am still waiting to get one but I would be surprised to see a price drop anytime soon. Maybe within 6 months?

 

[mister dog]

http://news.xbox.com/2014/01/xbox-one-january-thank-you

"The reaction from our fans was mind-blowing for our team."... Strange; they didn't mention the backlash on their used games and always online policies

Considering the X1 already sold over 3 million in only 13 countries at the end of 2013, I don't see a price drop coming any time soon. If this system was sold worldwide the sales would have been insane. I am still waiting to get one but I would be surprised to see a price drop anytime soon. Maybe within 6 months?

6 months would be perfect
Do small pricedrops normally happen in half year cycles with MS? If i'm not mistaken it took a couple of years for PS3 to sport the right pricetag for me (then again it's launch price was even higher).

 

[GTP_ENERGIYA]

Hi guys, just want to ask is the XBOX ONE worth getting, I've never owned any xbox consoles, always Playstation, but I thinking about getting one to expand my gaming with games that won't end up on Playstation

So I'm asking your thought & options on the console

Thanks

 

[bevo]

Hi guys, just want to ask is the XBOX ONE worth getting, I've never owned any xbox consoles, always Playstation, but I thinking about getting one to expand my gaming with games that won't end up on Playstation

So I'm asking your thought & options on the console

Thanks

I've got both and I like the ps4 way better. My son has the Xbox one, so i bought another power supply so it would be easy for me to borrow it after he is in bed. I haven't cared for it at all. The UI is terrible and online is very annoying unless your are in a party chat. You hear way to much of people talking to their kinect.

The free games on ps4 have alone made it the better console for me so far. Resogun, outlast, warframe and dc universe are all better so far than anything the Xbox offers except for forza.

I also can't stand the Xbox controllers and I loved the 360 ones.

another downfall for me are the way the games run. Battlefield runs a good bit better in the ps4 and seems to get better support.

For me personally the Xbox one just doesn't do it for me.

These are just my opinions. I've got a good bit of time on both consoles and I wish I had gotten my son a ps4 also instead if an Xbox one.

 

[FuzzyFassbender]

The X1 was my choice and am very happy with the purchase but the PS4 and X1 are both good systems preferences aside. I would buy the console that has the software you want. Easy for me as I like the Forza franchise, new release every 2 years.

 

[Ryanswannell]

Hi guys, just want to ask is the XBOX ONE worth getting, I've never owned any xbox consoles, always Playstation, but I thinking about getting one to expand my gaming with games that won't end up on Playstation

So I'm asking your thought & options on the console

Thanks

I'm going to say that it depends on what your preferences are.

For example I went for the PS4 based on it being £80 cheaper than the X1, more powerful and it's the console my friends have, which means we can game online together or share games. Also I am still a bit pissed about the whole DRM thing they tried to push out (and still can), because I want to be able to do what I want with a product I have purchased, such as trade it in (though I'm beginning to do that less), play it round a friends house or let friends borrow it..

Really, you should take into account what you want in a games console, and choose the one that meets your requirements 👍

 

[Ryanswannell]

What do you guys think about this? https://twitter.com/Xbox/status/431880048506060800/photo/1

It's basically a tweet from xbox implying they may ban people who 'camp'. I'm not sure if it's a joke tweet or not, but it has caused quite a stir in the gaming community.

I think it is disgusting if true as it is a perfectly legitimate way of playing a game, no matter if you like camping or not.

 

[ImaRobot]

@Ryanswannell I dont think its legitimate to play that way at all. I can understand if you have to storm an objective, and hold down a certain perimeter, but not just if its FFA and you stay in one corner. Also, Take Ghost Recon Future Soldier for example, they have an invisible barrier that enemys can not cross.. It really is an annoyance as there would be no way to get the player if they camp behind it. EVERY SINGLE GAME Should have a vote to kick option, as well as a rating system that shows up on the players profile, something like that of Grid 2's.

Either way, I dont really see any similarities with wiping snot, and the ban hammer.

 

[Saidur_Ali]

Anyone concerned that the person who destroyed Nokia is taking over Microsoft's Devices and Studios division which includes Xbox: Link

 

[Robin]

Anyone concerned that the person who destroyed Nokia is taking over Microsoft's Devices and Studios division which includes Xbox: Link

Well at least they didn't appoint him as the head of the whole company! Frankly Xbox hasn't been run well for a while, just look at the pre XB One launch disasters so it might be a good thing.

I'm more worried about him being incharge of the Surface division which although has a small market share is a very good range of devices and would hate for them to go the fashion over substance route.

I noticed Nokia finally caved and is now making Andriod phones, give it a while and they probably won't make any WP8 models anymore.

 

[priesty_lfc]

You gentlemen have an estimate when the Xbone will have it's first pricedrop from launch price? I haven't followed the evolution of the 360's price as i was a late entry in 2012, so i don't know if it would take a long time for MS to drop the price of the xbone to 300-400 bucks?

Would be fantastic if it would be around the time PCARS comes out next fall 👍

Well the uk price has been slashed by quite a lot already so I'm guess this will happen across EU/US shortly.

Numbers haven't been great here tho so as a 360 market I guess they assumed the XO would sale just as good. It hasn't so they've had to reduce it.

Still no interest in it for me but maybe if it gets to £250 without Kinect I'd consider it!

V happy with my PS4 at present!

 

[Parker]

To copy my post from another forum I frequent...

For those that haven't heard, I bought an Xbone. I found a brand new Day One Edition on eBay with about 2 minutes before it expired. I bid $350 and ended up winning so I really couldn't pass up the system at that price. It arrived at my house today, I set it up, downloaded a few updates and have had a few hours of playtime with the system.



First, here are some pictures.



Day One Edition Box







The system















The controller with goddamn batteries...







My current gen gaming setup as of right now.











The box to the left is a Wii U box (which has been moved, sorry for that, I didn't even realize it was there at the time of the picture) and I'm aware I need to do something about all those cables too...



Back to the Xbone.



Things I like...



Setup was a breeze, I got the Kinect calibrated very easy, signed into my account, inserted the Forza 5 disc and starting installing it within just a few minutes after downloading the initial update, which was 598mb I believe.



The controller feels very good too. I still vastly prefer DualShock 4 but as a fan of the 360 controller as well, this one feels like an extension of that but improved very slightly. The D-pad is 100% better, not as good as any of the DualShock controllers but much better than the 360. The trigger rumbling seems pretty gimmicky so far and experiencing it with Forza didn't really do much for me. Still, the controller itself is very good and feels nice and natural to hold.



Meh...



Voice commands. They work... kind of, but even still they really aren't faster than just using your controller. Plus when my wife and son are asleep I'd have to be an idiot to start yelling at my Xbox to do things instead of silently doing it myself.



Things I don't like...



The UI, its awful. If you are a fan of Windows 8 then you'll more than likely enjoy the Xbone's UI but I can't stand Metro (or whatever the hell it is called) and it is even worse on a console. At least with my PC I can use a mouse but with the controller it feels a lot clunkier and navigating isn't nearly as smooth and concise as I'd like it. Finding things in the menu can also be a pain as well.



Apps behind the Gold pay wall is disgusting as well. I can understand having to pay to play online (to an extent) but I'll never understand why Microsoft forces you to subscribe to their service in order to access a service you're already paying for. It screams of a money grab and it is ridiculous. I have Gold for Titanfall and Forza anyway but it is still crazy, of course this is the same company that still uses AA batteries for their controller.



The system is kind of ugly. It doesn't look as awful as I originally thought but it is still just a massive brick (and it is pretty damn big) that really doesn't have any pleasing aesthetic features. As you can see it the pictures above, it pretty much dwarfs all the current and last generation consoles but it doesn't feel cheap which is a good thing.





As I said, I've only had a few hours with the system so far but I am enjoying it. I'm much more excited about the PlayStation 4 and will be buying all multiplatform titles for the Sony console but I can justify $350 for playing some awesome Xbone exclusives too.



If you all have any questions about the system feel free to ask and I'll do my best to answer as quickly as possible. If there are any Xbox players out here that haven't already added me, feel free to add PageyTheSquid on Xbox Live and we can kill some Titans together.





Parker

 

[DG_Silva]

A have a question for Xbone migrators; If I have an outstanding Gold Live subscription on my X360, can I carry it over to my XBone, or will I have to buy it all over again?

 

[Parker]

A have a question for Xbone migrators; If I have an outstanding Gold Live subscription on my X360, can I carry it over to my XBone, or will I have to buy it all over again?

Live subscriptions carry over the the Xbone as well. If you're paying for it on the 360, you'll have Gold on the new console too.

 

[chromatic9]

Be interesting down the line regarding what system people choose

Can't help but feel people have been steered to get a PS4 due to specs/cost, word of mouth, good sentiment for Sony or backlash to what Microsoft had in store initially, which was bad I agree but
Xbox One has for this year
Forza 5
Titanfall
New Halo
Sunset Overdrive - very polished looking multiplayer game
Plus BF and COD with probably DLC earlier
Talk of a new Gears of War

PS4 has a poor Killzone that even the PS fans don't care about and some single player games that look good but don't last long.

I wonder if we'll see quite a few PS4s on ebay soon.

 

[bevo]

Be interesting down the line regarding what system people choose

Can't help but feel people have been steered to get a PS4 due to specs/cost, word of mouth, good sentiment for Sony or backlash to what Microsoft had in store initially, which was bad I agree but
Xbox One has for this year
Forza 5
Titanfall
New Halo
Sunset Overdrive - very polished looking multiplayer game
Plus BF and COD with probably DLC earlier
Talk of a new Gears of War

PS4 has a poor Killzone that even the PS fans don't care about and some single player games that look good but don't last long.

I wonder if we'll see quite a few PS4s on ebay soon.

For the ps4 you forgot
Drive club
Planetside 2 which I can't believe doesn't get more press. It's a great game.
Final fantasy online
Warframe
Uncharted
And more

I've got both consoles and so far the ps4 is blowing the Xbox away. There is no way I could recommend the Xbox over the ps4. I can't see people trading in a os4 for a Xbox one.
Titanfall is really the only gane I see the Xbox having. The beta was pretty fun ANC might get me to dust off the Xbox next week if any of my friends buy it too.

 

[Tornado]

I'd most definitely rather have Forza 5 than Test Drive Unlimited: PS4 Edition. In fact, other than Uncharted, there really isn't much of anything at this point that I'd say can match the momentum that Halo and Titanfall bring; as much as I like the look of Planetside 2.

 

[bevo]

I'd most definitely rather have Forza 5 than Test Drive Unlimited: PS4 Edition. In fact, other than Uncharted, there really isn't much of anything at this point that I'd say can match the momentum that Halo and Titanfall bring; as much as I like the look of Planetside 2.

I've never been a halo fan but titanfall was fun. I do like planetside 2 a lot better than both though. Having it on console for free where I can play with friends should make it even better. Planetside is just so massive. It's a really impressive game.

I'm not really a big forza or drive in fan. I'm more into the PC racing sims but thought I would throw it in there.

Really if all the games on both consoles so far I think the best one is Resogun. I've got more time in that game than I do the entire time I've played the Xbox one.

 

[chromatic9]

ai

For the ps4 you forgot
Drive club
Planetside 2 which I can't believe doesn't get more press. It's a great game.
Final fantasy online
Warframe
Uncharted
And more

I've got both consoles and so far the ps4 is blowing the Xbox away. There is no way I could recommend the Xbox over the ps4. I can't see people trading in a os4 for a Xbox one.
Titanfall is really the only gane I see the Xbox having. The beta was pretty fun ANC might get me to dust off the Xbox next week if any of my friends buy it too.

I don't see Drive Club being a solution to Forza or GT and Forza 6 will pobably be out around the time GT7 prologue is out or not far off. Drive Club looks more like some Horizon Burnout game.

Uncharted is unlikely for 2014 and really more known for being a pretty single player game

Planetside and Warframe may fall on deaf ears or not in leauge with Gears Halo Titanfall or maybe even Sunset Overdrive if MS get behind it.

Final Fantasy online, not really on the mind for the typical western console gamer. I used to follow the offline games up until PS3. Not sure what the PS4 has in store, I tried a quick search but only find recent FF online for PS3 and of course the old PS2 which was very niche, hardly available. I know the PS3/PC FF online has had a ton of faults and derision.

Your thing on resogun says it all really.

While Sony has these US/UK gamers onboard they need to provide the games but I don't see it. The action seems to be on Xbox One in 2014 but has had everything go against it prior. I don't think things like MAG or free to play pc game will satisfy and people may migrate back once the goodwill, specs and bad press subside to actual games.

On a side note. I called out the £429 price tag as a big mistake. PS3 launched at that while Xbox 360 was around £300. Crossing £400 shouldn't have happend and now we're seeing this being rectified.

Perhaps the damage is done, PS4 is a super system but don't see much coming on the games front. What MS need to do is remove kinect and drop the price to £300 and let gears Halo, Titanfall do the talking before it gets to far or take a hit on Kinect. 2015 might see Sony get Titanfall sequel or have something to counter big Xbox One games.

Selling a $500/£429 passthrough box with worse specs won't work so MS really need to just take a hit and get the system into gamers hands instead of the Potential 4.

Mainland Europe is a done deal but I think a turnaround could be done in the UK/US

 

[sems4arsenal]

PS4 has the order 1886 and Infamous aswell, but it's the multi platformers that are impressing me with Batman Arkham Knight and watchdogs to look forward too.

 

[Darren.]

Be interesting down the line regarding what system people choose

Can't help but feel people have been steered to get a PS4 due to specs/cost, word of mouth, good sentiment for Sony or backlash to what Microsoft had in store initially, which was bad I agree but
Xbox One has for this year
Forza 5
Titanfall
New Halo
Sunset Overdrive - very polished looking multiplayer game
Plus BF and COD with probably DLC earlier
Talk of a new Gears of War

PS4 has a poor Killzone that even the PS fans don't care about and some single player games that look good but don't last long.

I wonder if we'll see quite a few PS4s on ebay soon.

I agree with your comment about Killzone, as that was complete trash in my opinion. But PS4 will have more exclusives in the long run such as (but certainly not limited to):

Gran Turismo 7
Little Big Planet 3
Driveclub
Ratchet and Clank 2014
Infamous Second Son
Uncharted 4
Twisted Metal (depends)
The Last Guardian
The Last of Us 2

Add on the fact that people know about the PS4 running multi-platform titles at a higher resolution than the Xbox One, and that people don't like or want the Kinect, the PS4 is the most viable option for gamers as of current. Obviously, I may be saying something completely different this time next year, so don't take this for a "Oh PS4 has won the Console Warzzz!!!11!" post.

 

[VXR]

Nothing to sway me to a PS4 over the One, as there was no exclusive driving game at launch.

 

[chromatic9]

Add on the fact that people know about the PS4 running multi-platform titles at a higher resolution than the Xbox One, and that people don't like or want the Kinect, the PS4 is the most viable option for gamers as of current. Obviously, I may be saying something completely different this time next year, so don't take this for a "Oh PS4 has won the Console Warzzz!!!11!" post.

I agree about the resolution but not sure how others feel about it. Especailly when online fun is what it could boil down to.

For me I can't be buying a $500 console to play mostly 720p. We've just had 8 years of that and 1080p monitors/HDTV
were out in 2006, bought mine in 2007 but I've stated this before. Titanfall is looking to be 792p. You'll have $100 graphic cards this year playing it at 1080p 60fps. 4K is my next step this year.

I'll be getting PS4/One when the price drops for GT/Forza and The Last Guardian.

 

[Saidur_Ali]

ai

I don't see Drive Club being a solution to Forza or GT and Forza 6 will pobably be out around the time GT7 prologue is out or not far off. Drive Club looks more like some Horizon Burnout game.

Uncharted is unlikely for 2014 and really more known for being a pretty single player game

Planetside and Warframe may fall on deaf ears or not in leauge with Gears Halo Titanfall or maybe even Sunset Overdrive if MS get behind it.

Final Fantasy online, not really on the mind for the typical western console gamer. I used to follow the offline games up until PS3. Not sure what the PS4 has in store, I tried a quick search but only find recent FF online for PS3 and of course the old PS2 which was very niche, hardly available. I know the PS3/PC FF online has had a ton of faults and derision.

Your thing on resogun says it all really.

While Sony has these US/UK gamers onboard they need to provide the games but I don't see it. The action seems to be on Xbox One in 2014 but has had everything go against it prior. I don't think things like MAG or free to play pc game will satisfy and people may migrate back once the goodwill, specs and bad press subside to actual games.

On a side note. I called out the £429 price tag as a big mistake. PS3 launched at that while Xbox 360 was around £300. Crossing £400 shouldn't have happend and now we're seeing this being rectified.

Perhaps the damage is done, PS4 is a super system but don't see much coming on the games front. What MS need to do is remove kinect and drop the price to £300 and let gears Halo, Titanfall do the talking before it gets to far or take a hit on Kinect. 2015 might see Sony get Titanfall sequel or have something to counter big Xbox One games.

Selling a $500/£429 passthrough box with worse specs won't work so MS really need to just take a hit and get the system into gamers hands instead of the Potential 4.

Mainland Europe is a done deal but I think a turnaround could be done in the UK/US

There will still be GT so why should Drive Club be a solution to that?

Interesting you think this, I see it going the other way, more people dropping the Xbox One due to potential lack of new IPs / games in the long run, or the inferior experience on multi-platform games. The multi-platform shooters like Destiny, Call of Duty and Battlefield all performing much better on PS4 than Xbox One is likely something that attracts people to the PS4 over the Xbox One in their main market the US.

I'm amazed by a multiplayer only game and new IP Titanfall having so much hype and reliance as a system seller for the Xbox One this year. Considering it is based on the Source engine and coming out on the Xbox 360 and PC, I just don't see how it will make much of an impact to drive Xbox One sales. The price cut is likely the thing will help, less so the game. I just don't see how Microsoft will compete with Sony this generation if last generation with a year head start and lower price point they still got outsold by the start of this new generation of consoles. I think they got their work cut out to make sure its sales does not slow down like the Wii U has. I think Kinect will have to either become successful or they have to remove it and then they should become more competitive on the pricing.